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« Reply #220 on: June 23, 2005, 08:33:33 PM »

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Absolut, you call an Aruban boy by a female name, you put your life in danger. Unless 'Betty' is some kind of Sranan Tongo slang that I know nothing about.


If it's true that Aruban boys are homophobic, or that insecure about their masculinity, do you believe it's reasonable to draw a link between Joran's affect by the American girl that broke off their relationship because he was 'too sweet' and 'not man enough', and his presumed responsibility for Natalee's disappearance?

Get real. Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #221 on: June 23, 2005, 08:33:33 PM »

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Father will be held an additional 48 hours...


Why not 8 days?


I interpret the arrest of the father to mean the cops have no solid evidence. They're reaching... Rolling Eyes


isnt that the normal procedure for all thus far...??? 48hrs...and THEN...eight days...thats their norm I beleive..
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« Reply #222 on: June 23, 2005, 08:34:03 PM »

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>> I remember when old Bill did real good hard hitting investigative journalism

Was it 'Inside Edition' or 'A Current Affair' that he hosted? More like 'National Enquirer' journalism IMO. Wink


no no it was a way long time ago

he used to great exposes on real news affair programs


then again so did Geraldo

how fame dilutes talent sometimes, look at Michael Jackson, prime example

the pond, well it looks like it is a local dumping site so god knows what is in there........


yea like when Bill claimed he won a Peabody on Inside Edition--only to be proven a liar. The show won it after he left.


was Bill on Inside Edition LOL never watched it, no I mean way way long time ago, the early 1980s before tabloid TV was born.........when even Geraldo was doing real investigative journalism, even Dan Rather......

oh and Maury Povich, now I don't know if Maury Povich ever was a real journalist but man, how can you look yourself in the mirror with that pathetic show he does
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« Reply #223 on: June 23, 2005, 08:34:06 PM »

Scott,

Dutch people in general are not 'homofobic'. We have a saying here that is;" Leven en laten leven" it means; Live and let live.
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« Reply #224 on: June 23, 2005, 08:34:13 PM »

I bet the person/s who are involved in NH's disappearance are very nervous about the Texas search guys coming.  The Holloways really know how to keep the heat on.
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« Reply #225 on: June 23, 2005, 08:34:56 PM »

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/23/aruba.holloway/index.html

CNN article -- does not explain the 48 hours thing though.
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« Reply #226 on: June 23, 2005, 08:35:29 PM »

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I'm quite certain Beth Twitty said they landed in Aruba at 11pm.  It was in her long two-part initial interview with Greta.  Does anyone have a link to the transcripts at Fox?  I was there the other night and now can't find where they're hidden?  In that interview Beth gave a complete timeline...at least that's what I recall.  I'll try to find the transcript.


I agree nancy that was my recollection, Beth said she found out at 11:00 am and was in Aruba by 11:00 pm

I thought Jug gave a more precise time line last night to Greta but now I cannot remember it


Yes, she said they landed at 11 pm and by the time they got through searching for Joran's last name and address at the casino and bar, had called the police and driven to the v.d. Sloot home it was about 1 am. She said they talked to them until after 3:30 am. (That's Tuesday -- now 24 hours after Natalee left CnCs.)

Nat meeting Joran:
I think I figured out the confusion about when Natalee met Joran (but correct me if I'm wrong). We've heard one to two days as far as the first time they met. Could it be they met on Saturday night 5/28, he showed up at the bar CnCs Sunday 5/29 and they left the bar Monday 1 am 5/30. She if she disappeared Monday 5/30 and she met him 5/28, even though it's technically a day and a half, some might say 2 days, some 1. Does that make sense?

Also, re exams @ the school:
One site of the schools said exams were Friday 6/3-Wed. 6/8. Maybe they changed that to Monday 6/6-wed 6/8. Whatever, Monday 5/30 WAS a school day for Joran, but NOT an exam day. And we aren't even sure how many exams he would have had to take because the schedule says those who had already taken AP exams in May wouldn't have to take final exams and we know he had some AP classes.
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« Reply #227 on: June 23, 2005, 08:35:37 PM »

http://scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/viewtopic.php?p=28606#28606

Poll.
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« Reply #228 on: June 23, 2005, 08:36:13 PM »

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Father will be held an additional 48 hours...


Why not 8 days?


I interpret the arrest of the father to mean the cops have no solid evidence. They're reaching... Rolling Eyes


isnt that the normal procedure for all thus far...??? 48hrs...and THEN...eight days...thats their norm I beleive..


Do they think the father committed a murder? Or do they think the kids arent going to crack?
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« Reply #229 on: June 23, 2005, 08:36:21 PM »

Marcia Twitty said that after meeting with the Van Der Sloots, the missing girl's mother told her: "'I still feel like that dad knows something about where Natalee is.'"

"She's in very close contact with officials, both Aruban and FBI," she said. "They talk daily."
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« Reply #230 on: June 23, 2005, 08:36:25 PM »

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Paul stays in jail, per Karl Penhaul CNN Headline

Argh. It's been my husband's theory all along that Dad was trying to protect Joran and 'handled' the mess he created. This is nauseating. I so feel for Natalee's parents. I keep wishing she would be found alive, but the possibility just seems really slim at this point.


it is also possible that they arrested paul to pressure joran or have paul pressure joran because they can't break him
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« Reply #231 on: June 23, 2005, 08:36:35 PM »

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What I wonder about re: the rumor this is now a murder investigation--could there actually be a confession

Also--could dad fropped off joran at the marriott as cover, and told him to call Deepak to pick him up as cover? just wondering


So your saying maybe the dad took care of the problem on his own and just kept the secret between himself and Joran?  Could be, but then why would they still be keeping the Kalpoes? I personally don't think Sr VdS was involved in getting rid of a body, etc.  Would he really take the rap for his kid, or vice versa?
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« Reply #232 on: June 23, 2005, 08:36:36 PM »

Found picture of dingy boat from Tattoo and 2 pictures of steve.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/303790274/303790274EqCSbY

http://community.webshots.com/photo/303774481/303790315UNbhYn

http://community.webshots.com/photo/303790274/303790274EqCSbY

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« Reply #233 on: June 23, 2005, 08:36:38 PM »

They detain people for 2 days, then re-evaluate, then 8 days and re-evaluate, then 8 days more, etc....not sure the timeframes after that.
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« Reply #234 on: June 23, 2005, 08:36:55 PM »

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Rolling Eyes Oh, Gawd! here comes Geraldo...


you mean he is alive?????

too bad Geraldo you've been outscooped by the masterful Greta Van Susteren

hey is VanSusteren a Dutch name..........


I always thought it was German  Confused


I think the prefix Van is always indicative of a Dutch name
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« Reply #235 on: June 23, 2005, 08:37:08 PM »

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Absolut, you call an Aruban boy by a female name, you put your life in danger. Unless 'Betty' is some kind of Sranan Tongo slang that I know nothing about.


If it's true that Aruban boys are homophobic, or that insecure about their masculinity, do you believe it's reasonable to draw a link between Joran's affect by the American girl that broke off their relationship because he was 'too sweet' and 'not man enough', and his presumed responsibility for Natalee's disappearance?


No offense, but this sounds like a bunch of psychobabble to me.
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« Reply #236 on: June 23, 2005, 08:37:45 PM »

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They detain people for 2 days, then re-evaluate, then 8 days and re-evaluate, then 8 days more, etc....not sure the timeframes after that.

Thanks -- we all seem to just remember the 8 days.
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« Reply #237 on: June 23, 2005, 08:37:48 PM »

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http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/23/aruba.holloway/index.html

CNN article -- does not explain the 48 hours thing though.



its been the same for all of them....they get arrested...they have to go before a judge in 24 hrs to determine if they should be held...then it goes into the eight day periods..its nothing unusual thus far..thats been the cycle
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« Reply #238 on: June 23, 2005, 08:38:06 PM »

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Father will be held an additional 48 hours...


Why not 8 days?


I interpret the arrest of the father to mean the cops have no solid evidence. They're reaching... Rolling Eyes


It is legally 6 hours, then they have 48hrs for the prosecution to extend it to the 8 days...at least I think that's how it goes.
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« Reply #239 on: June 23, 2005, 08:38:10 PM »

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CNN article -- does not explain the 48 hours thing though.



It is custom chloe in the dutch system it`s a legal way to expend time to interrogate longer. Just as I said they can keep suspects for 116 days .
It has nothing to do with if you are guilty or not
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