Lively Case Discussion #507 8/6 - 8/7/2006

[Frijole]

I don't find the cleaning of the car that unusual, I do the same with mine.. I have a lot of habits that I do that others might find odd.. I keep my tollet lid down, I make my bed every morning and I have cleaned my house in the middle of the night, so I could goto sleep in a clean house.. I think maybe thats one of the reason that my current girlfriend and I don't see each other, I wouldn't let her eat in my car..  I do live with a large yellow lab but she is pretty clean except her hair that she leaves everywhere..

OK - so would you clean the car before AND after going out? Remember midnight-ish is before and 2 to 3 am is after?  Curious...

[Bearlyhere]

I don't find the cleaning of the car that unusual, I do the same with mine.. I have a lot of habits that I do that others might find odd.. I keep my tollet lid down, I make my bed every morning and I have cleaned my house in the middle of the night, so I could goto sleep in a clean house.. I think maybe thats one of the reason that my current girlfriend and I don't see each other, I wouldn't let her eat in my car..  I do live with a large yellow lab but she is pretty clean except her hair that she leaves everywhere..

terry, if you ever need a place to stay, and you're in my area.....

[terryd270]

So when I hear stuff about Deepak cleaning his car, I think thats kinda normal for me.. I would never be someones taxi or allowed another friend to pickup someone so he could makeout in the back seat of my car, even when I was younger..

[Ono]

Have we ever seen Deepak's stepfather?

I believe he was the one protesting his "grounds" (home) be interrogated by TES, and was on TV with Greta around that time.

Drats...I missed it.  Who does he resemble in the face? Angelina ?

[SunFreak2]

One thought that came to my mind was that someone could have been put in a trunk of a vehicle and left the Island that way.

It may just be internet rumor, but Lorenzo is supposed to have an import/export company.  Most likely the goods are drugs, but I remember the company was alleged to be located at the port.

[Ono]

Have we ever seen Deepak's stepfather?

I remember him one time at the house early on..standing outside... no other memory...

Did you get a good look at his facial features?  Maybe Angelina is his sister?

[Tylergal]

I don't find the cleaning of the car that unusual, I do the same with mine.. I have a lot of habits that I do that others might find odd.. I keep my tollet lid down, I make my bed every morning and I have cleaned my house in the middle of the night, so I could goto sleep in a clean house.. I think maybe thats one of the reason that my current girlfriend and I don't see each other, I wouldn't let her eat in my car..  I do live with a large yellow lab but she is pretty clean except her hair that she leaves everywhere..

OK - so would you clean the car before AND after going out? Remember midnight-ish is before and 2 to 3 am is after?  Curious...

Well, I used to be fanatic about my house, and then I underwent psychiatric treatment for that after I realized three boys, one man, a male cat and a male dog were not as fastidious as I was about it.  In fact, right now I cannot sit on my patio for looking at the mess my husband has in the breezeway and I refuse to clean it, but will hire my gardener to clean that mess up.  He has coopted my beloved French gardening bench as a tool bench and has decided the garbage can container that I Had built so garbage cans could be neatly tucked away in their own house out of public view, can be used to store trunks of crap that no one will ever use or want to see again.  I need another visit with the psychiatrist or he does, not sure which one of us.

[terryd270]

Its really scary when you remove the facade of Aruba and look at the real Aruba.. I think most American's that have been there must now know why they always had their hair on the back of their neck raised, it wasn't the cool ocean breeze...

[Tylergal]

So when I hear stuff about Deepak cleaning his car, I think thats kinda normal for me.. I would never be someones taxi or allowed another friend to pickup someone so he could makeout in the back seat of my car, even when I was younger..

Well, perhaps not, but Deepak later tells us this is not the first time he has taxied around Joran's American tourist pick-ups.  So, does he cherish the car or does he cherish Joran's crumbs from the sexual encounters, or is he just a voyeur?

[Ono]

I don't find the cleaning of the car that unusual, I do the same with mine.. I have a lot of habits that I do that others might find odd.. I keep my tollet lid down, I make my bed every morning and I have cleaned my house in the middle of the night, so I could goto sleep in a clean house.. I think maybe thats one of the reason that my current girlfriend and I don't see each other, I wouldn't let her eat in my car..  I do live with a large yellow lab but she is pretty clean except her hair that she leaves everywhere..

Okay, so you're a Virgo...LOL!  But, Terry, after a night out 'on the town' do you clean your car at 2:30 a.m. (or whenever) if nothing unusual happened inside that car?  Wouldn't you wait until the next day?

[terryd270]

TylerGal,

My wife used me to get my daughter to clean her room.. If you don't clean your room, I'm going to let daddy clean it..

[Frijole]

I don't find the cleaning of the car that unusual, I do the same with mine.. I have a lot of habits that I do that others might find odd.. I keep my tollet lid down, I make my bed every morning and I have cleaned my house in the middle of the night, so I could goto sleep in a clean house.. I think maybe thats one of the reason that my current girlfriend and I don't see each other, I wouldn't let her eat in my car..  I do live with a large yellow lab but she is pretty clean except her hair that she leaves everywhere..

Okay, so you're a Virgo...LOL!  But, Terry, after a night out 'on the town' do you clean your car at 2:30 a.m. (or whenever) if nothing unusual happened inside that car?  Wouldn't you wait until the next day?

Yeah Terry?  And I'm a Virgo too --- my house shows it... but not my car.  lol

I'm off for a bit as I have to watch Big Brother to see what the Evil Will manages to get away with tonite... will be back later to see what else we can disect from these statement.  It's been fun all.

[Tylergal]

TylerGal,

My wife used me to get my daughter to clean her room.. If you don't clean your room, I'm going to let daddy clean it..[/quote

Please, please, please come to my house and clean my breezeway, lest a divorce arise or another session of counseling.  I am crazy about things like that.  I am more symmetrical than that, even though I can be more well rounded in my thinking, but I cannot stand a mess inside or out.  I can pick up a pair of shoes left by my desk while I am working but not a dirty floor.  I can tolerate an unironed cotton dress as long as it is clean, to wear around the house.  I can tolerate a slightly smeared mirror (for a while) but I cannot stand to walk on floors that are unclean, to see lamp shades that are crooked and I will not abide a messy breezeway (I keep telling myself) and I refuse to clean it another time.  My housekeeper and gardener just shake their heads.  Eccentric.  I have an eccentric husband who would not tolerate a messy bathroom, and smells of plates to make sure they are clean but that breezeway is beginning to remind me of a night mare after a hurricane.

[terryd270]

Ono,

True story, a friend bought a new boat and we all were excited because we could go diving off of it.. Well he didn't like us getting water in his boat so after we would come out of the ocean, he made us used the towel to dry up the water we dropped in the boat.. It was kinda funny, we all just looked at each other and wonder if he really knew he had a boat..

[BTgirl]

Kat, I thought I read that Angelina was "like a sister" to the Kalpoes.  Perhaps a stepsister, but not Nadira's daughter.

Ramirez is much younger than Nadira, so I am thinking it is yet another illegitimate child of Nadira or her mother's late-life illegitimate child.

Ummm....a person having a much younger husband is not necessarily a bad thing.  

[terryd270]

My parents used to have a lot of houses that they used to rent and my Mother was kinda the business person when a renter would come by about a house.. While my Mother talked to the person my Father would look inside their car to see if they kept it clean, well if it was clean then my Dad would give the OK to rent to these people..  They figured if they didn't keep their car clean, they wouldn't take care of their renter property..  I understand about kids but there is different clutter...

[Ono]

Ono,

True story, a friend bought a new boat and we all were excited because we could go diving off of it.. Well he didn't like us getting water in his boat so after we would come out of the ocean, he made us used the towel to dry up the water we dropped in the boat.. It was kinda funny, we all just looked at each other and wonder if he really knew he had a boat..

Oh, Lord...hahahaha ~  I wonder if he is still that way now?

[klaasend]

Deepak's route had them driving around the block two or three times then up West straat seeminly towards the VDS residence:





Joran's route has them going around the block but then going past Karma and turning right..then turning right again towards the hotels.  I guessing on the KARMA location:



Remember in Deepaks spoke of driving past La Cabana and putting the porn video in the DVD player.  Natalee didn't like it.



It actually makes more sense based upon both Deepak's and Joran's statements that they did not head towards the VDS house but drove up LG Smith towards the hotels passing by La Cabana.

[Ono]

TylerGal,

My wife used me to get my daughter to clean her room.. If you don't clean your room, I'm going to let daddy clean it..

  This is hilarious.

[terryd270]

I'm beginning to think Satish had more to do with this then Deepak.. Deepak is a pooser and has zero class.. I think he might even be a little mentally slow because of some of the stuff he says..  I think we gave him more credit than he deserves..  He relies on validation from others for his self worth.. "He looked over to Satish, to see what he should do? Satish just looked back and said just drive"..  

Satish is someone that needs to be looked at more..  Him and Joran might be the main players here..