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« Reply #900 on: June 24, 2005, 01:24:02 PM »

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Transcript from Larry King can be found here.

    KING: And why are they suspects?

    CROES: At this point the general description is that they are suspected of being involved in the disappearance of Ms. Holloway. Thatís the general description. But because when we arrest somebody, you have to have a reasonable suspicion of specific crimes, so at this point all the suspects are arrested on the first crime of premeditated murder.


that is interesting.
how many more arrests to you think there will be today?
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« Reply #901 on: June 24, 2005, 01:24:17 PM »

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CNN has a poll about what story you are most interested in, if anyone wants to vote.  It is located towards the bottom on the left hand side.

http://www.cnn.com/HLN/


look who is winning, although I wonder if there are not many diversions out there in the news right now, to keep the US public from studying the number of US soldiers and Iraqi's being killed by "insurgents" or terrorists who did not exist there until we went in, or perhaps diversion from the Downing St memo, and most assuredly from Karl Rove calling me and others a traitor by his language.........but I digress--------Natalee seems to be in the lead at 47%. I am glad her Mother has kept this front and center, but I feel for the boys in NJ missing with little attention because perhaps, the family is not as well connected? Slam away. Mad
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« Reply #902 on: June 24, 2005, 01:25:07 PM »

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Since there is a confirmed altercation
 But I don't think there was an altercation that night.  There was a confirmed fight between Joran and one of the American kids but I think that that happened earlier on in the week--not on their last night.  That's what I remember reading somewhere anyway.


I've been wondering if the only altercation was with JvS or there were more with other people. Also if there was a drug bust at their hotel beach while all MB was staying there, or if a dealer got snitched.
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« Reply #903 on: June 24, 2005, 01:25:41 PM »

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TX EQUUSEARCH might be good, but they can't find something thats not there


Agreed--and they are the FIRST to say so.  I hope Tim Miller is either meeting with Beth and family today or he did yesterday.

The TES team is usually relentlessly upbeat, but REALISTIC, (you know, the politically correct "cautiously optimistic") from what I've known of them.  In his public statements locally, Tim Miller has not been hopeful of finding a live Natalee -- but maybe Beth can infect him with her contagious cheerfulness--or vice versa.
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« Reply #904 on: June 24, 2005, 01:26:08 PM »

Strange question:  Suppose Natalee IS hidden somewhere on the island.  Could that Texas group find her with their equipment?  Or will their equipment only find dead bodies....   Sad
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« Reply #905 on: June 24, 2005, 01:27:14 PM »

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Why would someone want to kill Natalee Holloway?


Perhaps because she was threatening to go right to the police and report that she was raped.

And, neither Joran nor his father would allow that.
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« Reply #906 on: June 24, 2005, 01:27:38 PM »

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As far as the "celebrity volunteers" who will be going to Aruba to bring attention to Natalee's plight, no names were released again and the local reporter was unable to confirm any of the rumors she had heard about who it would be.

Whichever NBA and NFL stars participate, they will be leaving Houston "sometime this weekend."


......Maybe these athletes are not there for celebrity status, and they are going as security to case out some tough neighborhoods....


G_d bless the USA and NFL and TES


Well they are not all bad--

pro athletes are not easily dissuaded from a confortation....or car chase , or armed robbery or arson, or.......just what aruba needs, imported criminals. watch the crime rate go through the roof the 11 days in there...


many do alot to help unfortuante ppl..
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« Reply #907 on: June 24, 2005, 01:27:39 PM »

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mmm so paul may have gone back to pick up Joran again at 3.  that would shorten the time natalee and joran were together and limit whatever incident occured between them.  would seem to corroborate the she fell asleep and i left story.  i would say they left c and c at 1:30, did the lighthouse run maybe half hour, 45 minutes, and, hey, its already 2:15 when Joran and Natalee head for the beach area from the dropoff.  then joran calls his dad who is at mcdonald's by three probably needs 15-20 minutes to get there so joran calls him at 2:30- 2:45.  not much time for joran to kill natalee.  was paulus folowing him?  what did paulusdo next?  I think the mb rumor post was from somebody named Twitty.  i think it is bogus.  but it is intriguing.


My time line is getting pretty weird, look at this ..

1. Joran gets pickup by PVDS at 11 pm at McDonalds.
2. Internet Cafe closes at 11pm, I am not sure but wouldn't McDonalds be closer to Internet Cafe?  Both pickups occur at almost the same time...even tho Joran never calls Deepak or Satish but his Dad instead.
3. How would Paulus not know that Joran gets pickup by Deepak, it would be like 12.15 pm to 12.30, reported that he might be deep asleep.
4. Is the 11 pm Joran pickup correct?
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« Reply #908 on: June 24, 2005, 01:27:42 PM »

Afternoon all!

OK. I still have questions about papa and mama v.d.Sloot and where they were on the night of Sunday 5/29-Mon 5/30.

 I thought last night we'd established that both were in Holland (which meant probably the two younger boys were with them and Joran was home alone in his bach pad) and that Paul had flown back to Aruba Sunday and Anita Wednesday. Right?

1. When exactly did Paul vds come back to Aruba?
2. Why did Joran have an 11 pm "curfew" on Sunday night (school nite), but was out after 1 am on Monday night/Tues. morning (school nite) gambling at the casinos and daddy didn't care?
3. Why is there an account of Anita vds saying her husband was deep asleep Sunday night? How did she know if she was still in Holland?
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« Reply #909 on: June 24, 2005, 01:28:07 PM »

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Transcript from Larry King can be found here.

    KING: And why are they suspects?

    CROES: At this point the general description is that they are suspected of being involved in the disappearance of Ms. Holloway. Thatís the general description. But because when we arrest somebody, you have to have a reasonable suspicion of specific crimes, so at this point all the suspects are arrested on the first crime of premeditated murder.



   it would be interesting to know what, under Aruban/Dutch law, would constitute "reasonable suspicion of premeditated murder". It doesn't seem to be as stringent as "probable cause."
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« Reply #910 on: June 24, 2005, 01:28:16 PM »

FOM, I wouldn't be surprised if there are several more people arrested before this ends! I don't know about today. If anyone can get FOX, they are interviewing Joe Houston with TES. Very interesting and detailed info.
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« Reply #911 on: June 24, 2005, 01:29:03 PM »

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If anyone is interested in the "Natalee is Alive" theory...go listen to Beth Twitty's interview with Colmes on Fox last night!


Do you have a link for the interview?


If that is true, do we think that the father, the judge knowledgeable in law, would send or suggest that a traceable e-mail be sent? Response to wrong post. This is to the post about Croes being held because of an e-mail.
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« Reply #912 on: June 24, 2005, 01:29:04 PM »

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As far as the "celebrity volunteers" who will be going to Aruba to bring attention to Natalee's plight, no names were released again and the local reporter was unable to confirm any of the rumors she had heard about who it would be.

Whichever NBA and NFL stars participate, they will be leaving Houston "sometime this weekend."


......Maybe these athletes are not there for celebrity status, and they are going as security to case out some tough neighborhoods....


G_d bless the USA and NFL and TES


pro athletes are not easily dissuaded from a confortation....or car chase , or armed robbery or arson, or.......just what aruba needs, imported criminals. watch the crime rate go through the roof the 11 days in there...



 You'll be seeing things a little differenly??
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« Reply #913 on: June 24, 2005, 01:30:13 PM »

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Afternoon all!

OK. I still have questions about papa and mama v.d.Sloot and where they were on the night of Sunday 5/29-Mon 5/30.

 I thought last night we'd established that both were in Holland (which meant probably the two younger boys were with them and Joran was home alone in his bach pad) and that Paul had flown back to Aruba Sunday and Anita Wednesday. Right?

1. When exactly did Paul vds come back to Aruba?
2. Why did Joran have an 11 pm "curfew" on Sunday night (school nite), but was out after 1 am on Monday night/Tues. morning (school nite) gambling at the casinos and daddy didn't care?
3. Why is there an account of Anita vds saying her husband was deep asleep Sunday night? How did she know if she was still in Holland?


Were both parents in Holland? I have in my timeline that PVDS arrived in Aruba around 5pm, and AVDS says she arrived on Wedsday?  Are these dates confirmed?
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« Reply #914 on: June 24, 2005, 01:31:05 PM »

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Afternoon all!

OK. I still have questions about papa and mama v.d.Sloot and where they were on the night of Sunday 5/29-Mon 5/30.

 I thought last night we'd established that both were in Holland (which meant probably the two younger boys were with them and Joran was home alone in his bach pad) and that Paul had flown back to Aruba Sunday and Anita Wednesday. Right?

1. When exactly did Paul vds come back to Aruba?
2. Why did Joran have an 11 pm "curfew" on Sunday night (school nite), but was out after 1 am on Monday night/Tues. morning (school nite) gambling at the casinos and daddy didn't care?
3. Why is there an account of Anita vds saying her husband was deep asleep Sunday night? How did she know if she was still in Holland?


one thing is a known fact... anita van der sloot is a loony bird
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« Reply #915 on: June 24, 2005, 01:31:42 PM »

"WHAT A LONG STRANGE TRIP ITS BEEN"
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« Reply #916 on: June 24, 2005, 01:32:09 PM »

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FOM, I wouldn't be surprised if there are several more people arrested before this ends! I don't know about today. If anyone can get FOX, they are interviewing Joe Houston with TES. Very interesting and detailed info.


Please relay what they are saying - I have called a close associate who is a senior exec at the local cable company and told him they have to get FOX - he tells me the earliest is the Fall - I said, by then the sharks will be licking their lips and putting away their knives and forks
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« Reply #917 on: June 24, 2005, 01:32:20 PM »

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If anyone is interested in the "Natalee is Alive" theory...go listen to Beth Twitty's interview with Colmes on Fox last night!


Do you have a link for the interview?


If that is true, do we think that the father, the judge knowledgeable in law, would send or suggest that a traceable e-mail be sent?

Maybe, it the email is the statement PVDS told all the boys to stick to.
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« Reply #918 on: June 24, 2005, 01:32:21 PM »

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My time line is getting pretty weird, look at this ..

1. Joran gets pickup by PVDS at 11 pm at McDonalds.
2. Internet Cafe closes at 11pm, I am not sure but wouldn't McDonalds be closer to Internet Cafe? Both pickups occur at almost the same time...even tho Joran never calls Deepak or Satish but his Dad instead.
3. How would Paulus not know that Joran gets pickup by Deepak, it would be like 12.15 pm to 12.30, reported that he might be deep asleep.
4. Is the 11 pm Joran pickup correct?




If joran called satish when he was home(after pvds picked him at 11.00)
Then I think it`s possible that satish picked up joran before he pick up deepak.
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« Reply #919 on: June 24, 2005, 01:33:19 PM »

pro athletes are not easily dissuaded from a confortation....or car chase , or armed robbery or arson, or.......just what aruba needs, imported criminals. watch the crime rate go through the roof the 11 days in there...[/quote]


 You'll be seeing things a little differenly??[/quote]

someone else on dag??? comments???
I'd hate to guess  ....sounds like maass media announcements
looking for witnessess?? unofficially
my papiamento is bad
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