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« Reply #260 on: October 19, 2019, 10:42:44 AM »

Luke 3:17
"For all that is secret will eventually be brought into the open, and everything that is concealed will be brought to light and made known to all."



WE KNOW WHO DID THIS - WE KNOW WHO IS INVOLVED

Desiree Young - ABC News - January 20, 2016


"I feel like she betrayed Kyron's trust that day.  She betrayed his love. I don't think she has a right to call him her son and only because she is responsible for his kidnapping and there's no way around that.  Terri hasn't been the only focus. Law enforcement has been very thorough about ruling people out. They don't have tunnel vision.  We got to Terri because of Terri. We got to Terri because of all of her emails and all of her GPS information on her phone and all of the eyewitness accounts that were conflicting with her timeline. We know who did this.  We know who's involved and we know the basic circumstances. I know that fate will step in."

http://katu.com/news/local/desiree-young-kyron-hormans-mom-says-terri-hormans-interview-made-her-heart-hurt


ABSOLUTELY SHE DID IT

Desiree Young - June 4, 2015


Video 2:30:  "Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them."

http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance

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« Reply #261 on: October 19, 2019, 10:51:53 AM »

Luke 3:17
"For all that is secret will eventually be brought into the open, and everything that is concealed will be brought to light and made known to all."



FAITH AND PURPOSE

Desiree Davidson Young - March 6, 2011


"I have full confidence in the truth and in God, he will reveal all that I know and all that the police know when he feels it is time for everyone to see and when he can bring my Kyron home. That is when people will see the true Terri Horman and you will be disappointed and sickened to point of throwing up." ....

"I have full confidence that God will reveal all and then we will be able to bring Kyron home. He is not ready for us to know everything yet, but soon he will. We must learn from all that is going on as hard as it is, God teaches us through the hard times in our lives. And man is this one of those hard times, the hardest ever.  We must honor Kyron by doing something good with it and that is what I intend to do. Thank you all for your support and thoughts."
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Team-Desiree-3/133864036644663




Loving Natalee - A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith - Beth Holloway - Sunny Tillman

Page 103: I think about what just happened, pondering the human spirit.  Apparently it can withstand a lot more than I every dreamed possible.  Mom is right; God is good.  All my life I've heard people of many faiths talk about "taking it to the cross and turning it over to the Lord" or just simply "turning it over.  Not the work that has to be done.  Just the burden.  I cast it upon Him so that I may be sustained.  And I am renewed, resilient.  Thankful for however long this resurgence in energy will carry me.  I will pick up one foot and put it down.  Then the other one will follow.  I will breathe.  There is much to be done.

Page 230:  "I can't say for sure if we'll ever know that answer to whether my daughter is alive or not.  I know it doesn't look good.  But just as that old metal spiral staircase rose from the ashes when our lake house burned down, so too faith stands strong in the remains of this devastating loss.  And just as my Dad built another house around that staircase, I will build another life around hope and faith.  It won't ever be the same.  But I pray that it will, at the very least, be useful."




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« Reply #262 on: October 20, 2019, 03:24:48 PM »

POSSESSION OF A FIREARM FORBIDDEN

In addition to the California charge pertaining to Grand Theft of a Firearm ... why has Terri Horman not been charge with illegally possessing a firearm ... a charge that could not be disputed?

Think about it.  In defiance of three (2010, 2013, 2014) Oregon restraining/no contact court orders which forbid the possessing of a firearm ... official California documentation confirms that Terri was in possession of a firearm when in November 2015 authorities responded to a complaint alleging she had stolen a firearm.

CALIFORNIA ALLEGATION

2015

Terri Horman faces stolen gun charge in California
December 5th 2016


EXCERPT

Moulton is accused of taking a handgun from her roommate in Marysville, Calif. back in November 2015.

Our sister-station in Sacramento confirmed that Moulton was charged with grand theft of a firearm.  Officers said she had the stolen gun on her when she was interviewed.

Police issued a warrant for her arrest when she missed her arraignment on the charge.

She was booked into the Yuba County Jail under the name Terry Moulton on July 4. 2016. She has a hearing in the case scheduled for December 16.

http://kpic.com/news/local/terri-horman-faces-stolen-gun-charge-in-california


Kyron Horman's stepmother says she's 'not guilty' of gun charge
December 7, 2017

EXCERPT


PORTLAND, Ore. -- The stepmother of Kyron Horman says she is not guilty of stealing a handgun from her roommate in California.

Terri Lynn Moulton, also known as Terri Horman, is facing charges for allegedly stealing the handgun in 2015. Her roommate said Moulton stole it from a safe in his Marysville, California home.  When contacted by police, officers say Moulton had the stolen gun in her possession.

The charges are unrelated to Kyron Horman's disappearance.

http://www.kgw.com/news/crime/kyron-hormans-stepmother-says-shes-not-guilty-of-gun-charge/365347398


OREGON RESTRAINING-NO CONTACT COURT ORDERS

2010

Judge Forbids Stepmom Terri Horman Access To Children Or Firearms
Friday July 2, 2010

EXCERPT


A judge has forbidden Terri Horman, the stepmother of a missing 7-year-old Portland boy to have access to her children or to any firearms. Court officials say the restraining order against Terri Moulton Horman was granted Monday afternoon by Multnomah County Circuit Judge Keith Meisenheimer. The judge released part of the court file Tuesday.

http://www.oregonherald.com/mobile/local-story.htm?id=160


2013

Judge signs order preventing Terri Horman near estranged husband
Aug 2, 2013

EXCERPT


Terri Horman is not allowed within 150 feet of the home where her estranged husband, Kaine, lives with their daughter Kiara.

That's according to a civil no-contact order signed Thursday by Judge Henry Kantor.

It replaces a restraining order that had been in place since Kaine was told three years ago that law enforcement officials had evidence Terri had hired a hit man to kill him.

Kaine had just had the restraining order renewed a few weeks ago.

The order also prevents her from approaching Kiara’s daycare, Kaine's office at Intel in Hillsboro and the gym he works out at in Beaverton.

She is also prohibited from approaching Skyline Elementary where their son Kyron was last seen in June 2010.

The order is part of the ongoing divorce proceedings between the two.

Terri is also forbidden from owning any firearms or ammunition.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/Judge-signs-order-preventing-Terri-Horman-near-estranged-husband-218050711.html


2014

Custody Agreement
June 3, 2014

Page 6


F.  Respondent agrees not to purchase of possess any firearms or ammunition.

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/Horman-custody.pdf


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« Reply #263 on: October 21, 2019, 03:04:19 PM »


        


Rebecca Morris

Love You Forever

The Search for Kyron Horman


On the morning of June 4, 2010, the boy with the toothy smile, crewcut and glasses posed in front of his science project, a diorama about the red-eyed tree frog.

Seven-year old Kyron Horman grinned for a photo taken by his step-mother. She said he walked toward his second-grade classroom at Skyline Elementary School in Portland and turned to wave at her. Then he vanished.

For the first time, the story of Kyron’s disappearance is told in Love You Forever – The Search for Kyron Horman. Based on years of research and hundreds of hours of interviews with his mother, Desiree Young, and others, the book is the true story of the boy’s disappearance, the suspicion that quickly fell on one member of a messy blended family, and how Desiree Young turned grief into advocacy.

https://rebeccatmorris.com/love-you-forever/


LOVE YOU FOREVER

Kyron Horman's mother works with best-selling author on book about son's disappearance
June 4th, 2019

EXCERPT


Young said she’s worked with Morris for the past two years on the book.  Any book proceeds that come to Young will go toward a nonprofit of her choice that supports searches for missing children, she said.

Read more:
https://katu.com/news/local/kyron-hormans-mother-works-with-best-selling-author-on-book-about-sons-disappearance

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/kyron-horman/kyron-hormans-mom-to-release-book-shares-new-details-about-investigation/283-f86936e2-95d4-4247-9aa3-83e22362d81a
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« Reply #264 on: October 24, 2019, 12:26:03 PM »

DEDE SPICHER - WITNESS FOR THE PROSECUTION?

Could it be that in 2013 ... the prosecutor finally caved to the terms of Dede Spicher's attorney?

Could it be that immunity from prosecution for his client was afforded in exchange for her full co-operation regarding her involvement as well as knowledge of the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Kyron Horman?

Could it be that after three years Dede finally submitted to a polygraph ... testified
regarding the happenings of June 20, 2010 and passed?

Could it be that it was then that Dede testified before the 2013 Grand Jury without citing the Fifth Amendment?

Could it be that Dede will be the prosecutor's star witness when Terri is eventually indicted for her involvement in the secreting of Kyron on the morning of June 4, 2010?


1.  THE GRAND JURY

Attorney: Spicher shared Terri Horman emails, texts with cops
July 26, 2010

EXCERPT


Spicher's attorney told NBC Dateline that he would be "surprised" if Terri was not arrested in the case.

Grand jury proceedings are not open to the public or the media. However, Spicer's attorney did confirm that his client was subpoenaed to testify but did not give any testimony under oath Monday. He said she could be called back to testify in the future. ....

Stavley also told NBC Dateline Monday that Spicher had been, and planned to keep, cooperating with investigators. He said that she had already shared text messages and emails sent to and from Terri with detectives.

"I would be, frankly, surprised if Terri Horman did not eventually face charges in this case," Stavley said. "I'd be surprised if the indictment didn't come down".
http://www.kgw.com/home/DeDe-Spicher-testifies-before-grand-jury-99252004-kyron-horman-missing-portland.html


Friend of missing boy's stepmom appears before grand jury
July 26, 2010

EXCERPT


Stavley disputed those comments Monday, saying Spicher has been "extremely cooperative" with police as they executed search warrants on her home and car. He said she also met with the lead investigator in the case last week for more than three hours.

He added that Spicher is not speaking to Terri Horman. ....
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/07/26/oregon.missing.boy/


2.  THE 2012 DEPOSITION

Terri Horman's friend DeDe Spicher declines to answer any questions about Terri Horman in deposition
November 09, 2012

EXCERPT


Rosenthal noted in the motion that the Fifth Amendment provides that "no person...shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself..."

"The privilege is personal; it cannot be used to protect another person...Otherwise, the privilege could be used as a shield to protect a witness' friends, and to deny a civil litigant probative evidence."
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/10/terri_hormans_friend_dede_spic.html


The Deposition

Excerpts:


Did you see Terri Horman at any time on June 4, 2010?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Did you talk to Terri Horman at any time on June 4, 2010?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Have you ever been to Skyline Elementary School?
Dede: Going to assert my Fifth Amendment right.

Have you ever purchased a disposable phone?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Do you know where Kyron Horman is?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Do you know whether Kyron Horman is alive?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

H/T - Criminal Mindz
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/DeDe-watermarked-1.pdf


3.  THE 2013 GRAND JURY

Kyron Horman's mom drops civil suit, criminal investigation continues
July 30, 2013

EXCERPT


A key witness was now cooperating with investigators, according to Young's attorney Elden Rosenthal.

DeDe Spicher testified before the grand jury for the criminal case within the past two weeks, according to Rosenthal.  Spicher was friends with Terri and her whereabouts were in question the day Kyron vanished.  She had previously declined to speak with investigators or testify. ....
http://www.kgw.com/news/Kyron-Horman-civil-suit--217621031.html


Lawsuit dropped, criminal investigation continues in Kyron Horman case
Jul 30, 2013

EXCERPT


As part of Young's lawsuit, one of Terri Horman's friends, DeDe Spicher, was called in for a deposition in 2012, and she refused to answer 142 questions regarding the case. She cited her Fifth Amendment right. ....

Young said she was hopeful Spicher provided good information to the grand jury, but did not speculate on what information that could be. Spicher appeared before the grand jury at least one other time, in July 2010.

"We don't know. But I think everything's a possibility," she said. "The fact that she hadn't talked up to now. We just don't know." ....
http://www.kptv.com/story/22967375/mom-of-kyron-horman-gives-up-on-civil-case


Mother of Kyron Horman dropping civil suit
Jul 30, 2013

EXCERPT


Meanwhile, there was a huge breakthrough in the criminal investigation. Horman's good friend, Dede Spicher -- who previously refused to answer questions in court -- testified before an investigative Grand Jury in the past week or two. ....
http://www.katu.com/news/local/Mother-of-Kyron-Horman-dropping-civil-suit-217632621.html


Desiree Young drops suit against Terri Horman
July 30, 2013

EXCERPT


Rosenthal did reveal that Terri Horman's friend, DeDe Spicher, testified this month before a grand jury.  In October of 2012, Spicher invoked her Fifth Amendment rights during a sworn deposition, refusing to answer any questions regarding Horman. However, according to Rosenthal, she changed her mind.

“We recently learned that Dede Spicher did appear in front of the Grand Jury a week or two ago; we don't know what she said," Rosenthal stated. ....
http://koin.com/2013/07/30/desiree-young-drops-suit-against-terri-horman/


Kaine Horman - July 30, 2013

“We still have extreme confidence that they’re going to drive resolution to the case. Law enforcement is again asking us to help protect the information as much as we can, so it doesn’t interfere with the integrity of what they’re doing. And we’re doing our best in the civil arena to do that."
http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


Desiree Young - July 30, 2013

“I don’t want anything to compromise the ongoing investigation for Kyron. For these reasons, I have instructed my attorneys to dismiss the civil case.”
http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


MCSO Statement - July 30, 2013

"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation."

"In addition, Sheriff Staton has met regularly with Kaine Horman concerning the investigation and to ensure they are fully aware of the current course of action being taken by investigators."
http://www.koin.com/news/31700-autosa


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2015

Desiree Young - June 4, 2015


Video 2:30:  "Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them."
http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance
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« Reply #265 on: October 24, 2019, 12:50:03 PM »

A WITNESS AT RISK?

If Dede Spicher was a participant and/or has knowledge in regards to the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Kyron Horman on June 4, 2010 ... if Dede has been afforded immunity from prosecution in exchange for her testimony in an upcoming trial ... could it be that she should be watching her back?


THINK ABOUT IT

“Law enforcement officials have informed me that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron’s disappearance and in the murder for hire plot. Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this.”  Kaine Horman - October 2010
http://www.kptv.com/story/14805736/battle-in-horman-custody-case-continues-10-25-2010
http://images.bimedia.net/documents/Kaine%20October%2025%20Filing.pdf



" ... Someone else is going to get hurt before we put her in prison." Desiree Young -  December 6, 2016
https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/pb.161645780592018.-2207520000.1481041254./1177433929013193/?type=3&theater


"I am concerned that what will end up happening is someone is going to be harmed, in addition to Kyron, and that is when we’ll be able to hold her accountable.  I really hope that is not going to be the case but I really have this feeling. ..."  Desiree Young - December 5, 2016
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/kyron-horman/kyron-hormans-stepmother-faces-gun-charges-in-california/363391732



“I’m fearing for my life.  I don’t even know what she is capable of doing."  “She was trying to put a knife – a kitchen knife to my face and then she was telling me that if I talked to law enforcement that something is going to happen to me or my family.” Joseph Cristoba - December 9, 2016
 http://www.kgw.com/news/local/kyron-horman/kyron-hormans-stepmother-accused-of-domestic-violence/366720210
http://koin.com/2017/02/25/terri-horman-a-no-show-in-domestic-violence-case/


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« Reply #266 on: October 24, 2019, 02:23:19 PM »

TERRI HORMAN - MURDER FOR HIRE ALLEGATIONS

2010

Kaine Horman - Kyron Horman's Father - October 25, 2010


“Law enforcement officials have informed me that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron’s disappearance and in the murder for hire plot. Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this.”
http://www.kptv.com/story/14805736/battle-in-horman-custody-case-continues-10-25-2010

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/Kaine%20October%2025%20Filing.pdf


Landscaper says Terri Horman wanted him to get rid of her husband: court record
December 09, 2013

EXCERPT


According to Engel, the landscaper testified that Terri Horman had hired Sanchez to do yard work in 2008, but Kaine Horman said he wasn't aware of Sanchez or his work.

Five months before Kyron's disappearance, Terri Horman invited Sanchez to a restaurant. Terri Horman told the landscaper her husband was abusive and asked Sanchez to help her find someone to "get rid of" Kaine Horman, Engel wrote in court papers.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/12/landscaper_says_terri_horman_w.html

Landscaper Rudy Sanchez - Deposition
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/Emergency%20Hearing%20Motion.pdf


1990

Terri Horman's ex-boyfriend alleges murder-for-hire plot in 1990
April 18, 2017

EXCERPT


The alleged murder-for-hire plot targeted a man named Sean Rea, who was Horman’s boyfriend at the time. ....

Rea said Multnomah County investigators told him a prison inmate had confessed to taking part in a murder-for-hire plot decades ago in Roseburg. He recalled investigators telling him the unnamed inmate independently provided specific details that matched Rea’s account.

Rea said detectives drove him back to Roseburg in 2011 to identify the park where the incident allegedly occurred.  He said he was also called to testify before a grand jury in Multnomah County. ....

Records indicate police have known about the murder-for-hire allegations since 2011 but details have never been made public.  Detectives recently presented their case to the Douglas County prosecutor. It’s not clear why the case wasn’t sent to prosecutors earlier. ....

Horman faced similar allegations in 2010, when her ex-husband Kaine Horman claimed she tried to hire the family landscaper to kill him.

“Respondent attempted to hire someone to murder me,” Kaine Horman wrote in a restraining order filed on June 28, 2010. A Multnomah County judge granted the restraining order.

“There is no statute of limitations in Oregon on basically any murder-related crime,” explained Tung Yin of Lewis & Clark Law School.
http://www.kgw.com/news/investigations/terri-hormans-former-boyfriend-alleges-another-murder-for-hire-plot/432261285


Desiree Young - Kyron Horman's Mother - April 19, 2017

“I want them to hold her accountable,” said Desiree Young, the missing boy’s biological mother. “I want people to understand what she is capable of.”

“We’ve been waiting patiently for Douglas County DA’s office to do something with this since 2011,” said Young.  “I want the DA’s office to do something.”

“We want her in jail. We want her held accountable,” said Young. “We want her to tell us what happened that day. We want the truth. We want Kyron to come home.”
http://www.kgw.com/news/investigations/kyron-hormans-mom-wants-charges-filed-against-terri-horman-in-murder-for-hire-plot/432544687


BOTTOM LINE

Desiree Young - Kyron Horman's Mother - April 19, 2017


“It’s unfortunate that the person who did this to our family is out there,” Young says, “free to do whatever she wants to do and hurt whoever she wants to hurt.”
https://kobi5.com/news/kyron-hormans-mother-wants-charges-brought-against-terri-horman-51231/


FOOD FOR THOUGHT

Joseph Cristoba - Terri Horman's Former Boyfriend - December 9, 2016

“I’m fearing for my life.  I don’t even know what she is capable of doing."

“She was trying to put a knife – a kitchen knife to my face and then she was telling me that if I talked to law enforcement that something is going to happen to me or my family.”
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/kyron-horman/kyron-hormans-stepmother-accused-of-domestic-violence/366720210
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« Reply #267 on: October 24, 2019, 03:59:10 PM »

When the two MFH allegations against Terri pertaining to a former boyfriend and a former husband is considered ... could it be that Dede had seconds thoughts in regards to testifying against Terri?  Could it be that Dede will ultimately do what is right in the interest of justice for Kyron and out of compassion for Desiree and Kaine who have not held their precious son for over nine years.

UPDATE - OCTOBER 21, 2018

Desiree Davidson Young
Kyron Horman's World Soldiers


Yes she had an immunity deal but then didn’t honor all of the details behind the agreement. Not only has she not done what she agreed to but she has actually gone out of her way to compromise the case.
https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/a.462300267193233/1899543303468915/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/Kyron-Hormans-World-Soldiers-161645780592018/


Immunity from Prosecution

The Fifth Amendment of the United States Constitution prohibits the government from forcing witnesses to give self-incriminating testimony in criminal cases. Courts may evade this prohibition and force reluctant witnesses to testify by granting them immunity from prosecution. Once witnesses cannot be prosecuted for their testimony, courts may punish them if they refuse to testify.


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« Reply #268 on: October 25, 2019, 11:25:58 AM »

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Two Horrible Choices
OCT 22, 2019
By Rebecca Marshall

EXCERPT


As I write this, we are awaiting confirmation from the Medical Examiners office, but friends and family believe the body found in the Willamette River late Sunday is that of missing University of Portland student Owen Klinger.

He is the young man whom hundreds of people have been looking for over the past two weeks.  His face has been seen on fliers all over Portland.  Some days, I would see his flier three or four times in one day at different locations.

Owen was last seen leaving his dorm on the UP campus headed to a meeting.  He never made it there. I t’s not clear exactly what happened to him and we may never know.  He did not leave a note behind to explain his actions.

Upon hearing the news on TV last night that a body was found, my partner and I actually asked, if it were us, would we rather have this kind of an outcome or the kind that Kyron Horman’s parents are living with today?  What a terrible choice.  I hate that we even feel we have to ask it.  Sadness and closure or sadness and a lifetime of “what if’s?”

I won’t even pretend I know what these parents are going through.  I can only send them love and empathy and pray it doesn’t happen to anyone else.


https://www.kxl.com/two-horrible-choices/

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« Reply #269 on: October 25, 2019, 11:44:00 AM »

Desiree Young - June 4, 2019
"No matter what the outcome, no matter what Terri did that day, we still have to find Kyron. We still have to bring him home. We still need to get answers, and we still need to hold her accountable."

https://www.kptv.com/news/love-you-forever-kyron-horman-s-mom-announces-book-about/article_8ec4f34e-86e4-11e9-b09c-3fb91bba807a.html


Could it be that there is a Kyron Horman connection in regards to remains that were discovered by mushroom pickers in the Cottage Grove area on April 26, 2019 and the 100 acres search focus referenced by Kyron's mother in her June 4th press conference?  A Dede Spicher connection?  Could a plea deal with Dede be the reason that the search for Kyron has now been narrowed?  Think about.  Desiree did not mention Dede once in her interview with Kyle Iboshi (KGW) or in her press conference.  Why?

The Deposition - October 5, 2012
Excerpts:
Do you know where Kyron Horman is?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.
Do you know whether Kyron Horman is alive?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/DeDe-watermarked-1.pdf[/size]


APRIL 2019

HUMAN REMAINS FOUND NEAR COTTAGE GROVE
May 1, 2019

EXCERPT


COTTAGE GROVE, Ore. -- Remains found off Shoreview Drive in the Cottage Grove area have been confirmed to be human, the Lane County Sheriff’s Office said.  Authorities said two mushroom pickers found the bones on April 26, but the remains appeared to have been in the area for a while.  The sheriff's office said it could be some time before the remains are able to be identified. The sheriff's office and medical examiner's office are investigating.
https://www.kezi.com/content/news/Human-remains-found-near-Cottage-Grove-509326201.html

https://kval.com/news/local/human-remains-found-near-cottage-grove


JUNE 2019

Kyron Horman search narrowed to ‘less than 100 acres,’ mother says
Jun 4, 2019

EXCERPTS


On the ninth anniversary of her son’s disappearance, Desiree Young announced Tuesday that authorities have narrowed the search for Kyron Horman to less than 100 acres.

She said she couldn’t reveal what specific areas have been the focus.

“We’ve been able to get to a point at least where I feel better." .... "We’re looking in key areas, and we’ve narrowed it down.”

Sgt. Brandon White, a sheriff’s office spokesman, said the agency has no comment on the latest search efforts.
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2019/06/kyron-horman-search-narrowed-to-less-than-100-acres-mother-says.html

Reporter:  What area is it that the search has been narrowed?
Desiree:  I can't say.  LE would get very angry with me.


7:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=39&v=hWsYz-BcOvs

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« Reply #270 on: October 25, 2019, 04:25:29 PM »

CONNECT THE DOTS

Distance from Roseburg, OR to Cottage Grove, OR
53 mi
Map:
https://www.distance-cities.com/distance-roseburg-or-to-cottage-grove-or


1995

Terri Moulton Horman: Kyron Horman's stepmother is a profile in contradictions
Jan 10, 2019

EXCERPT


By 1995, Horman's marriage to Tarver soured, with each accusing the other of infidelity. They divorced in November, and she gained custody of James, with Tarver agreeing to later pay child support.

Horman moved back to her parents' house in Roseburg. She later attended McDonald's fast food management school and worked for a time at a McDonald's in Cottage Grove, Ecker said.
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2010/08/terri_horman.html


2010

Terri Horman moves out, returns to Roseburg
July 15th 2010

EXCERPT


Terri Horman, the stepmother of missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman, has returned to Roseburg where her parents live and was spotted in the area driving on Interstate 5 by KATU News reporter Thom Jensen early Saturday morning.

Kaine and Terri settled their dispute out of court Friday afternoon over when she will move out. A 3 p.m. hearing for a judge to decide was then canceled.
https://kpic.com/news/local/terri-horman-moves-out-returns-to-roseburg-11-13-2015


2019

HUMAN REMAINS FOUND NEAR COTTAGE GROVE
May 1, 2019

EXCERPT


Remains found off Shoreview Drive in the Cottage Grove area have been confirmed to be human, the Lane County Sheriff’s Office said.  Authorities said two mushroom pickers found the bones on April 26, but the remains appeared to have been in the area for a while.  The sheriff's office said it could be some time before the remains are able to be identified. The sheriff's office and medical examiner's office are investigating.
https://www.kezi.com/content/news/Human-remains-found-near-Cottage-Grove-509326201.html

https://kval.com/news/local/human-remains-found-near-cottage-grove


Kyron Horman search narrowed to ‘less than 100 acres,’ mother says
Jun 4, 2019

EXCERPT


On the ninth anniversary of her son’s disappearance, Desiree Young announced Tuesday that authorities have narrowed the search for Kyron Horman to less than 100 acres.

She said she couldn’t reveal what specific areas have been the focus.

“We’ve been able to get to a point at least where I feel better." .... "We’re looking in key areas, and we’ve narrowed it down.”

Sgt. Brandon White, a sheriff’s office spokesman, said the agency has no comment on the latest search efforts.
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2019/06/kyron-horman-search-narrowed-to-less-than-100-acres-mother-says.html


Reporter:  What area is it that the search has been narrowed?
Desiree:  I can't say.  LE would get very angry with me.


7:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=39&v=hWsYz-BcOvs


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« Reply #271 on: October 26, 2019, 02:12:11 PM »

TERRI AND KYRON WALKED OUT OF THE SIDE ENTRANCE

Desiree Young - November 25, 2015

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Video (1:24)  "It was exactly between 8:45 and 8:55.  He was in his classroom.  He got the photo taken by Terri and he according to eyewitness accounts ... multiple adults ... that can vouch for the fact that Terri walked out of the side entrance of the school with Kyron in tow and we know this because Kyron's friend even saw him with her right outside the school."
http://crimewatchdaily.com/2015/11/25/the-search-for-missing-oregon-boy-kyron-horman/


MONTHLY BRIEFINGS

Kaine Horman - August 6, 2018
"We still have multiple detectives, we still get a briefing at least once a month, the sheriff's office, the FBI is still involved. I still believe that it's going to be a positive outcome."
https://pamplinmedia.com/ht/117-hillsboro-tribune-news/402688-299482-annual-kyrons-car-show-keeps-missing-son-in-public-eye


IT'S NOT SMOKE AND MIRRORS

Desiree Davidson Young - April 20, 2019

.... It’s not smoke and mirrors, sometimes I might not be able to talk specifics but know this...if I say it, it’s the truth.
https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/p.2163737167049526/2163737167049526/?type=3&theater

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The Sad, Unsolved Disappearance Of 7-Year-Old Kyron Horman And The Cryptic Message His Mother Posted On Facebook
October 28, 2019

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/sad-unsolved-disappearance-7-old-052936604.html

Desiree Davidson Young
June 4, 2018

https://twitter.com/JackieLabrecque/status/1003749733301608448
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So sad   I'm glad you posted this I was going too


Hi Blonde.  It's been a while. I hope all is well.

Janet

 
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                        PRECIOUS MEMORIES


                      


                        
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A DISCONNECT - THE HORMAN PROPERTY SEARCH

There is something I am not comprehending.  Story of my life.  When the disappearance of Kyron is considered ... it makes sense that a search warrant implies that an official search of the property ... an official search with cadaver dogs ... would not require Kaine's permission.  When it comes to Kaine's position on the issue and the position of Desiree's sister ... I am on the fence. 


Kaine Horman - Dr. Phil Show - September 13, 2013

" I have an open invitation with Law Enforcement and certified Search and Rescue Teams to search my property ... any day ... any time.  When I was called ... I SAID "NO" TO THE PRIVATE SEARCH but I immediately said and ... I will continue to say ... any-time the Sheriff's Office and the Search and Rescue teams want to come with their dogs it's all-right.  My property has been search more than the school has probably.  My invitation is open ... always open."

Video Clip (2:05):
http://www.drphil.com/shows/show/2069


Kelly Davidson Ramirez - November 20, 2015

"I just want to clarify there was a search done Kaine’s property the first couple of days after Kyron went missing. These were search and rescue dogs with a scent article looking for a LIVE child. Cadaver dogs have never set foot on his property. Not once! While Desiree, Me and my family pray everyday this is not our outcome we need answers. Kyron deserves for us to have these answers. He deserves to be found. Why would a father deny any mother the piece of mind knowing he is not there? Why can’t he do that for her for Kyron? Not only has he denied us the opportunity to search his property but he is denying law enforcement the access to do so as well. Hmmmm"

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=907642962658959
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REMINDER

MCSO Statement - July 30, 2013
"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation."

http://www.koin.com/news/31700-autosa


Desiree Davidson Young - April 20, 2019
It’s not smoke and mirrors, sometimes I might not be able to talk specifics but know this...if I say it, it’s the truth.

https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/p.2163737167049526/2163737167049526/?type=3&theater



KYRON - THE LAST SIGHTING


MCSO

Sheriff Office Release - June 18, 2010
"The stepmother said she last saw Kyron at about 8:45 a.m. walking down the hallway toward his classroom.  School staff did not see Kyron after 8:45 a.m. and that he did not make  it to his classroom."
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/search_for_missing_portland_bo.html

Jason Gates - June 21, 2010

There was one new piece of information: “Terri is the last-known person to have seen him before he disappeared” Multnomah County Sheriff’s Capt. Jason Gates said, contrary to previous reports of someone else who might have seen the boy afterward.
http://portlandtribune.com/component/content/article?id=31624


Matt Shelby - June 21, 2010

"Two teachers were the last school staff to see Kyron at Skyline. His own teacher and another teacher saw him inside the school with his stepmother, and there didn't appear to be anything out of the ordinary.”
http://www.katu.com/news/local/98981009.html


DESIREE YOUNG

Desiree Young - November 25, 2015
It was exactly between 8:45 and 8:55.  He was in his classroom.  He got the photo taken by Terri and he according to eyewitness accounts ... multiple adults ... that can vouch for the fact that Terri walked out the side entrance of the school with Kyron in tow and we know this because Kyron's friend even saw him with her right outside the school. (Video Excerpt 1:24)
http://crimewatchdaily.com/2015/11/25/the-search-for-missing-oregon-boy-kyron-horman/


THE DISCONNECT

BLINK (BOC)

Kyron Horman Exclusive Report: New Suspect And Botched Investigation Rumors Abound- Terri Horman Prepares To Fight For Couples Daughter Following Seclusion
Posted by Christina Stoy |Tuesday 6 August 2013 8:29 pm

EXCERPT


.... Sometime after Terri Horman left the school with her daughter Kiara in tow, she was captured on store video prior to Kyron’s exit from Skyline School.   It is believed Kyron was last seen between 9:05 and 9:20 AM.

The following is a summation of multiple direct witness accounts, edited to protect witness identification only.

“…He must have been standing behind me because I only recall hearing him ask if the boy could help him bring some stuff in from his truck.  I thought it was (edited) until he looked up at him and then he looked at Ms. Matthews for approval and she nodded her head yes in response.  They walked out of the South entrance together and I do not recall seeing either of them again."
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/08/06/kyron-horman-exclusive-report-new-suspect-and-botched-investigation-rumors-abound-terri-horman-prepares-to-fight-for-couples-daughter-following-seclusion/comment-page-1/#comments


Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by BOC Staff | Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm

30. ... June 26, 2017 at 12:35 am

EXCERPT


There is a very long list of witnesses and testimony who place Kyron Horman at the school following Terri’s departure and there is simply no dispute to that fact. Both Kyron’s parents are aware of this. .... B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-62/#comments


Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by Christina Stoy | Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm

31.  July 14, 2017 at 9:51 pm

EXCERPT


I am going to stay away from the contents of Ms. Matthews deposition except to say it supported the account of SZ I have provided previously and from a timeline perspective put Kyron disappearance from that classroom between 9:05am and 10:20- that’s the best I got.  B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-67/#comments

http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/
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THE LAST SIGHTING  (Continued)

What is wrong with this picture?

When my above submission is considered ... logic dictates if ... as alleged by BOC .. Kyron was last seen with an unidentified male in Ms. Matthews' classroom and ... Ms. Matthews allegedly afforded Kyron an nod implying permission for him to leave the classroom with the unidentified male .... Ms. Matthews would have worked with investigators in creating a composite drawing of the kidnapper.

Think about it.  The words of MCSO spokespersons as well as the words of Desiree Young stating that Kyron was last observed on the morning of June 4, 2010 with his stepmother have never been retracted.

Also ... in her interview with Dr. Phil Terri never shared the scenario regarding Ms. Matthews allegedly observing Kyron leaving her classroom with an unidentified male thus clearing her of all suspicion.  Why?

Terri Horman tells Dr. Phil Kyron was abducted by man in a white pickup
Updated Jan 09, 2019;Posted Sep 22, 2016

https://www.oregonlive.com/trending/2016/09/terri_horman_tells_dr_phil_kyron_was_abducted.html



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