Lively Case Discussion #508 8/7 - 8/8/2006

[Anna]

.I thought Jossy said on Dana last night that Dompig was going into private security and wanted to manage security for one of the larger hotels in Aruba.

Could be he was just teasing us about med school, some sort of slur about Natalee's chosen field as is Satish age 20 and still in high school.

But didn't Jossy say he was going into private security which makes more sense?

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[Kat_Gram]

Monday, June 13, 2005
Security Guards Released


 From NewsMax and MSNBC

Officials who confirmed Monday's release of Antonius "Mickey" John, 30, and Abraham Jones, 28, did not offer any clues to solving the mystery of Holloway's disappearance on the Dutch Caribbean island during a student trip. The release of Antonius "Mickey" John, 30, and Abraham Jones, 28, came a day after Natalee's mother said she believed the security guards were innocent and should be released.

On June 14 Mickey John goes on Scarborough Country and states "Well, he said the story that Natalee had been dropped off at the Holiday Inn was all made up. He said the girl has never been dropped off at the Holiday Inn.
He said (INAUDIBLE) took the girl from Carlos ‘n Charlie‘s, drove to the lighthouse. He, Deepak, was driving the car. His brother was sitting next to him in the front. Natalee was sitting in the back seat, behind Deepak. And the Dutch guy was sitting in the back seat behind his brother. They drove to the lighthouse. He didn‘t say to me what took place at the lighthouse. But he said, on his way back, they dropped the Dutch guy off and Natalee close to the Marriott Hotel. He went home. He went online on his computer. And he said, like an hour after, the Dutch guy sent him an e-mail, like a message on his telephone, on his cell phone, saying that, when he got home, he would communicate with him online also. So, apparently, the Dutch guy was still out when he sent him the message." He was not asked any further questions.

On June 29, he was interviewed by Greta van Susteren again. He told Greta, "Deepak came, and he introduced himself as Deepak. And he said he was being picked up for the missing girl. I felt relief, because I know I can throw a few questions from him to see if I get something from him. ...he certainly was calling me Jamaican. He thought I was from Jamaica. So he was just talking to me freely and, you know, no problem. I spoke to him more, and I tell him, "Tell me the truth," asking, "You saw the guy on the news?" He said, "Yes." I said, "Where the guy from?" He tell me, he think from Grenada. And right away, I knew he was talking about me, because I was the only one from Grenada. So I decided to ask him a few more questions. And I said, "So you tell the guy (INAUDIBLE) what happened to the girl?" He said, "No." (INAUDIBLE) arrested on Thursday. I think a guy should be released that Friday, because, in their hearts, they know we were innocent. He said a story being made up about dropping the girl of at a Holiday Inn, was all something being made up. He, and the Dutch guy, and the Dutch guy's father, they sit and made up the story."

" I don't know who the family consists of. But I know the father was involved, according to him. They made up the story, and they say that they didn't drop the girl off, because they said they would give the police something to (INAUDIBLE) when somebody is missing in Aruba, they would find them a few days later by a crack house or with some beach bum or something.
So they made it up. But then, when push come to shove, and nothing was going on, he decided to tell his brother, "We're going to tell the truth and say exactly what took place," because he — I guess that much, he, by that time, he and the Dutch guy were saying different stories, so something wasn't going right."

"Like I told you, they say like — they were hoping that something the girl would pop up or something, a few days after. And as I said, they drop her off at the Holiday Inn talking to a black guy, security guard dressed in black clothes. Said they know, like, everybody in public knows a tourist has been missing. They would find them a few days later, by, like I said, by some crack house or with some beach bum. So they made up something hoping that she would show up a few day and then they say, "OK, it all good. There she comes."

"Well, he told me — he, all of them, sit and make up the story. He, Dutch guy, and the family. He told me they made up a story that they said they dropped the girl off at the Holiday Inn. She was talking to a black guy, security guard specific, dressed in black pants, black top." "He said family. I'm certain."

"He only said that, while he was home, he went on his computer to chat with some friend. And the Dutch guy sent him a text message on his cell phone saying that when he got home he would also chat with him online. So he said automatically this guy was still out at the time he and his brother was home. He just said — the message said that, when he got home, he would talk to him online. He didn't say anything else."

"Well, to me, he was very, very calm. He spoke very calm. When they open my door to go out and see my lawyer, and passed the front of his cell, he was looking very calm. I would call him every five minutes and say, "Deepak, are you OK?" And he would say, "Yes, I'm OK." So he was very — looked relaxed to me." "Yes, he said, "We would be out soon," but he told me the Dutch guy will remain in custody because he know he was the last — they dropped him off with the girl at the Marriott. And I think he's holding back something, the guy (INAUDIBLE) the father made up the story. He should know what took place."

"I told him. I told him it was me, the security guard."

When Jossy was on last night, he said that Dompig was going to work security at one of the large casinos.
There is also a part missing in Deepak's statement. When he says about no body no case and then... right on to another topic.

[igsigs]

But didn't Jossy say he was going into private security which makes more sense?
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MF, backing off his Dr. Dompig prediction, is now saying that Gerold is going into private security(ie rent-a-cop). Another fine Aruban citizen is also looking into the security business, one Nadira Kalpoe.

[Anna]

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KatGram,
You have been working today!!  Good post about the SG and also glad you read that about vStraaten as I am on my memory only without my old hard drive.

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[Carnut]

.I thought Jossy said on Dana last night that Dompig was going into private security and wanted to manage security for one of the larger hotels in Aruba.

Could be he was just teasing us about med school, some sort of slur about Natalee's chosen field as is Satish age 20 and still in high school.

But didn't Jossy say he was going into private security which makes more sense?

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I thought the Dompig Jr. was the one with med school on his mind.

Even though his experience was mostly in computers like Deepak.

[2NJSons_Mom]

Maybe the pow wow was on Saturday, 6/4, as I posted earlier or do you think it was sooner?   I was just thinking since Deepak said they all met with lawyers on Saturday, that it had some truth.

[SunFreak2]

G'nite y'all.  Pleasant dreams.  Mr Sandman calls.

[oldfart]

A ND  bye for the night Monkeys.

Please remember to bring & take your AND to   everything closely.

TRUTH, INNOCENCE, GUILT and JUSTICE  
Four simple words that I actually looked up semi-contemplated today .
as far Natalee's case goes and then in general.

As far as Natalee missing in Aruba... TO ME they are all Missing in one form or another..

And for our late night posters..  
If you have music playing in another window please close it...
If you want to hear more than "Natalee's song" leave the window  open for a bit or use the  
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"Ericka's BLOG"

http://www.erickaharvey.com/

JMO

Good nite Monkeys {hugs}
OldFart
SeeeeYaaaByeeeeeeee

[Tylergal]

.I thought Jossy said on Dana last night that Dompig was going into private security and wanted to manage security for one of the larger hotels in Aruba.

Could be he was just teasing us about med school, some sort of slur about Natalee's chosen field as is Satish age 20 and still in high school.

But didn't Jossy say he was going into private security which makes more sense?

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I thought the Dompig Jr. was the one with med school on his mind.

Even though his experience was mostly in computers like Deepak.

No, of the younger guys, it was Satish and of the older guys, Dompig.  A laugh a minute, enough to get you well unless you burst your stitches out.

[msmarple]

Sunfreak -

I have sent a 2nd email to Mr. Grossman at USAToday. Thanks for the details.

Thanks too for the timeline ...

[Tylergal]

Thanks for all the great insight, thanks for the music, OF, thanks for all that Klaas, Red, Mrs and Tom do, and thank you Sunfreak for the great time line.  Thank you each and everyone for being so devoted to such a good cause and thank you, Anna, for the link to USA today, and anyone else who I missed, for we all play an important role, keeping interest alive, keeping the newspapers and media straight and supporting those who support the family.

[Kat_Gram]

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KatGram,
You have been working today!!  Good post about the SG and also glad you read that about vStraaten as I am on my memory only without my old hard drive.

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I was looking at some old stuff today and had come across that.
When you read the latest Deepak statements, you wonder why they never asked more questions, eh ?
Where and when did Joran almost fall in the water ?
Odd that they ALL went to the same lawyer at the same time ?
Do you think that Deepak and Satish got sucked in by the legal bs Paulus told them ? Like you guys are just as culpable so you better stick to the story or we'll hang you out to dry ?

[nonesuche]

Kat_gram-

Good questions, I am convinced Paulus not only sucked K2 in but enjoys controlling them, ensuring they feel every bit as 'suspect' as he and Joran. There is safety in numbers.

tyler-

lovely post, thank you for saying all of that so well, as you always do!

Night all!! rest well !!

[Tylergal]

Kat_gram-

Good questions, I am convinced Paulus not only sucked K2 in but enjoys controlling them, ensuring they feel every bit as 'suspect' as he and Joran. There is safety in numbers.

tyler-

lovely post, thank you for saying all of that so well, as you always do!

Night all!! rest well !!

 G'nite and thanks for the list.

[Tylergal]

Kat-Gram, thanks for this info. The answers to the last two questions are "yes" and "yes."

[crazybabyborg]

I've been lurking, but wanted to say hello to everyone I haven't yet, and to wave at you, None!

[Tylergal]

I've been lurking, but wanted to say hello to everyone I haven't yet, and to wave at you, None!

It is nice 2 C U Back with us.

[Kat_Gram]

Anna , another snip from Missing in Aruba...
Deputy Chief Commissioner Gerold Dompig is the lead investigator on the case and he reports the supposed confession then Commissioner Van der Straaten quickly denies it and that story that one of the suspects is leading them to the body. Deputy Commissioner Dompig soon disappears from the case. The rumors that Jan Van der Straaten is Joran Van der Sloot's Godfather begin to circulate. This rumor is finally confirmed on July 23 by an FBI agent that has been in Aruba watching on this case unfold.
Well, I am going to fall down, so I better lay down and call it a nite...

[crazybabyborg]

Tyler, your choice of avatars gets better and better!  

I'm so far behind, that it's going to take a bit to catch up enough to contribute anything.......

[2NJSons_Mom]

KatGram, I'm with you...was just about to post I was heading out...though I'd love to pick this apart some more.  But, have to work tomorrow and have a meeting early.  

See you all sometime later tomorrow, but I'll be lurking when I can.

G'nite.