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« Reply #320 on: June 24, 2005, 11:55:40 PM »

One of the blogs or possibly a newspaper story, had a really good description of what some expats settling in Aruba might feel.  I travel a good bit for work to a Central American country, and found there description to be true of some people.  The story described an arrogance, an attitude of being above the law that some ex-pats have. . .kind of like they have more money, intelligence, etc.  That is my take on PVDS. . .that no one would possibly ever think he or his family could be involved in something like this, so they would get away with it.  Perhaps under the stress of the situation, when asked for advice by his son, that was what he was thinking.
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« Reply #321 on: June 24, 2005, 11:55:43 PM »

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I could be all wrong, but. . .looking at some of the pictures of Natalee - she seems really thin in the recent photos.  Just wondering if she lost weight for prom, like girls (my daughter) do.  110 pounds is thin for her height. . .with her system already trying to handle the alcohol, possibly some of her own medication too - if she was then given drugs, it's easy to see what might have happened.


I hope it ends soon, getting tired second guessing back and forth...Perhaps its time to take Joran back the scene of the crime.


where do u guess that is??????


Marriot Beach, and a drop site.


u think she went on a boat??? short ride??? where is wiz???
p.s. soory about the jump head first thing... Embarassed  Embarassed


The only piece I don't have a theory about is the drop site. Unless it was straight out into the ocean, sink the body and let the currents take her away. Or where did Dad take her.


i was thinking she was alive at drop site
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« Reply #322 on: June 24, 2005, 11:55:55 PM »

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What crime??... We don`t even know IF there was a crime commited


Nataleeís favorite song
The first paragraph was her senior quote written in the yearbook.
Lyrics for Free Bird by Lynyrd Skynyrd

If I leave here tomorrow
Would you still remember me
For I must be traveling on now
Thereís too many places I gotta see
And if I stay here with you girl
Things just wouldnít be the same
For Iím free as a bird now
And this bird you can not change
And this bird you can not change
And this bird you can not change
Lord knows I canít change
Bye bye its been sweet love
Though this feeling I canít change
Please donít take it so bad now
Cause Lord knows Iím to blame
And if I stay here with you girl
Thing just wouldnít be the same
For Iím as free as a bird now
And this bird you can not change
And this bird you can not change
And this bird you can not change
Lord knows I canít change


no offense, but this is one of my favorite songs as well, it really is big in the South, and probably means nothing.   All I have to hear is the line from another song of their's is " Turn It Up" and I am a teenager again.
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« Reply #323 on: June 24, 2005, 11:56:43 PM »

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Hello, all...

Am I the only one who can gladly never read the lyrics to Freebird, again?  Bad enough they're an overrated and overplayed band.... Smile


not again...freebird thread please????
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« Reply #324 on: June 24, 2005, 11:56:59 PM »

The photo on the right has its original title as it was given in the blog where I found it; "WaStEd". It shows Joran and another boy drunkenly tweaking each other's nipples -- pseudo-homoerotic horseplay plenty of straight guys recognize. The photo shows Joran Van Der Sloot the clown, the dutch kid who even though his island of residence, Aruba, says he can't drink till age 18, still was drinking openly whenever the opportunity presented itself.

News reports all indicate that Joran enjoyed gambling, and this is perhaps how he met Natalee Holloway -- playing blackjack in the casino in the same hotel where the American students from Mountain
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« Reply #325 on: June 24, 2005, 11:57:05 PM »

Absolut - re the other kids - lots of questions here too! The complete silence (I know they were told to be quiet, etc) is weird and I just don't trust the whole scene somehow though I can't figure out how it all fits together.
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« Reply #326 on: June 24, 2005, 11:57:06 PM »

Anyone else just think birth control pills when medication was mentioned?   Shocked
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« Reply #327 on: June 24, 2005, 11:57:07 PM »

I absolutely do not think that the dad was involved, until the son needed help.
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« Reply #328 on: June 24, 2005, 11:57:24 PM »

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I think the only reason the LE did that is to cover all bases, if it`s ever go to trial...


If it ever goes to trial? Ahhh ... Aruba better hope it goes to trial. You don't have 5 people held on reasonable suspician charges, 3 of which were the last to ever see her and a missing teen.

If that ever occured they best close up shop because that will never fly in America. Right or wrong, that will never wash. We have Joran's mother on TV today whining that its a govt's conspircacy, she been watching too much American CNN. Her son has changed his story how many times and was last to be seen with girl.

Who really thinks he does not know what happened to Natalee, I mean really?
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« Reply #329 on: June 24, 2005, 11:57:43 PM »

GuyWdog[/quote]
I agree 100%.  If you are innocent, your parent wouldn't suggest you "saying nothing" (although an attorney knowing you committed a crime might...hmmm?) when a parent is at your doorstep at 3am looking for their missing daughter.  I just can't image ANY reason for them to lie OR to say nothing, unless they were trying to cover their behinds about something.[/quote]

I believe that the exact works Papa VDS said to his son when confronted by Beth H were in Dutch but translate into "Joran, don't say another word!".
Now remember that Joran was giving Beth H some attitude & thumping his chest.- so Papa VDS' telling him to shut up may have been an attempt to stop him from mouthing off to Beth H! Sometimes context is everything.
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« Reply #330 on: June 24, 2005, 11:57:45 PM »

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yes I have.
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« Reply #331 on: June 24, 2005, 11:58:40 PM »

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I could be all wrong, but. . .looking at some of the pictures of Natalee - she seems really thin in the recent photos.  Just wondering if she lost weight for prom, like girls (my daughter) do.  110 pounds is thin for her height. . .with her system already trying to handle the alcohol, possibly some of her own medication too - if she was then given drugs, it's easy to see what might have happened.



I noticed the weight change, also, but I was thinking more along the lines of illness.hmmm


OK, if we are gonna think along those lines, which i think is fairly sensible to some extent, then how about anorexia? Maybe she was anorexic, and had a heart attack..which alot of girls suffering from that do..I.E., Karen Carpenter...maybe ....
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« Reply #332 on: June 24, 2005, 11:59:06 PM »

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One of the blogs or possibly a newspaper story, had a really good description of what some expats settling in Aruba might feel.  I travel a good bit for work to a Central American country, and found there description to be true of some people.  The story described an arrogance, an attitude of being above the law that some ex-pats have. . .kind of like they have more money, intelligence, etc.  That is my take on PVDS. . .that no one would possibly ever think he or his family could be involved in something like this, so they would get away with it.  Perhaps under the stress of the situation, when asked for advice by his son, that was what he was thinking.

Interviews with the law community in Aruba tonight all say the are in shock over his arrest.  They all say he was a quiet, bright man who was well respected.
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« Reply #333 on: June 24, 2005, 11:59:50 PM »

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If it were insulin, than as a diabetic she would not be supposed to drink at all.

When I  too a youth group to Europe, chaperones had to keep all meds--and the only ones students were allowed to keep were inhalers and those vials for a couple of kids with bad insect sting allergies.


if it was insulin they would have put it on the missing poster as they would for any medication that  she would need to stay alive.  The medication aspect bothers me.  Why is it such a secret?
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« Reply #334 on: June 25, 2005, 12:00:17 AM »

Red - I think it's completely possible that Joran really does not know what happened to Natalee and that that is why he is "not cracking" under interrogation. I wouldn't swear to it but I think it's definitely possible - and in fact hangs together better than most theories in terms of the timeline, etc. just mho
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« Reply #335 on: June 25, 2005, 12:01:37 AM »

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I've rediscovered gin and tonics this summer - 90 degrees plus in New England - so that's my new drug of choice - but only one or I fall asleep and can't read here.

btw - I don't think WW is defending "them" - I think she's defending truth, justice and the american way - otherwise known as innocent until proven guilty. And I think we should all remember that and how much we do not know as real fact.


You're forgetting the rest of the saying, innocent until proven guilty under the law.  

Public opinion is different than the law.  

You are either guilty or innocent, that doesn't change after a verdict, what does change is your legal status.



COVER STORY !!!!!  He knew something would happen to her ????
How-- why .. We are talking crime free Aruba plus the addition of    ( obviously not needed ) security guards and cameras.
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« Reply #336 on: June 25, 2005, 12:01:51 AM »

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Anyone else just think birth control pills when medication was mentioned?   Shocked


yes I have.


pms/cramps/airsick/gas/bloating
why is this really important???
what would be your take if she brought condoms??

new thread please for condom theory
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« Reply #337 on: June 25, 2005, 12:02:14 AM »

Wasn't Natalee's passport, ID and money found in her room at the HI?
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« Reply #338 on: June 25, 2005, 12:03:10 AM »

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Anyone else just think birth control pills when medication was mentioned?   Shocked


yes I have.


pms/cramps/airsick/gas/bloating
why is this really important???
what would be your take if she brought condoms??

new thread please for condom theory


condoms, I would think she was pretty smart. As far as the others, they make sense as well.
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« Reply #339 on: June 25, 2005, 12:03:25 AM »

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If it were insulin, than as a diabetic she would not be supposed to drink at all.

When I  too a youth group to Europe, chaperones had to keep all meds--and the only ones students were allowed to keep were inhalers and those vials for a couple of kids with bad insect sting allergies.


if it was insulin they would have put it on the missing poster as they would for any medication that  she would need to stay alive.  The medication aspect bothers me.  Why is it such a secret?


because some people respect a persons right to medical privacy...
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