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« Reply #520 on: June 25, 2005, 01:23:13 AM »

Razzy, Dazzle...

Where are you?  You've tried to make it clear you're somehow "hooked up" and privy to things even Greta isn't getting.  So, I'll bite...do tell...I'm getting tired so hurry up.
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« Reply #521 on: June 25, 2005, 01:23:18 AM »

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Does anyone know if the beach with the fishermans hut is called the Marriott beach by the locals or does it have another name?


Directions Follow the main road along the coast to the high rise hotels. Continue to the last hotel (Mariott). We are 1/4 mile from the hotel at the beach. Look out for the blue center with flags at the beach. (Fisherman's Huts).  
http://www.windsurfingholidays.net/school_details.php?SupplierID=4510

there was a rumor that at the same time
when they said "something bad happened" right around that time
they also said that she was burried at the 'fishermans huts'

damn now I'm thinkin they wouldn't have had to go far
not very far to drag a body
down the beach
and I would say there probably wouldn't be anyone around that spot
that late at night
especially with that 'last' hotel being closed
water is seriously shallow there
like ankle deep
http://www.beachhouse-aruba.com/
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« Reply #522 on: June 25, 2005, 01:26:00 AM »

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Yes, I do remember momma VDS saying that when Greta was talking to the VDSs.  I found it interesting that she only made this comment after daddy VDS got up to answer the phone and was not in the room.  Shocked


Tila wasnt that comment "odd", I have a masters in psychology and human behavior and that comment reeks of emotional abuse.  That kid is a master manipulator, possibly learned from his father.  That poor lady is blinded to the truth of who her family really is.
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« Reply #523 on: June 25, 2005, 01:26:04 AM »

RB:
>>Wanted you to know I second this: Gretta said tonight that she didn't hear VDS say anythin at all that she thought coud be incriminating, makes me wonder if they aren't just grasping at straws with the arrest

However, I responded to arubagirl last night about an "ex-polis commissioner" confirming this by phone to a FOX talking head. I heard the Aruban spokesman confirm it when asked TWICE tonight on FOX's "The Big Story" if Greta's interview (inconsistencies) brought PVDS into custody.

[edit]The answer was 'YES' both times.[/edit]
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« Reply #524 on: June 25, 2005, 01:26:24 AM »

im still catching up from today but with all the talk about jorans shirt, does anyone remember what he was wearing that nite? and has that outfit/shirt been accounted for? just a small piece but if he was wearing one of his two favorite shirts and now one is gone, that would be pretty interesting.
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« Reply #525 on: June 25, 2005, 01:26:45 AM »

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I would add that Deepaks emails do not support her running away either. You can not believe them and that she ran away.


Ka ching....logic rears it's ugly head.   Wink Laughing  Laughing



logic?

i'll re-post for you:

the dropping at HI part is the cover story...but other than that, he did not see her after the Marriot(supposedly).....nor did he ever talk to her like Joran did.

So, the e-mail neither debunks or supports my "hopeful" theory


Chill, ww. No need to repost. My computer is getting slow so by the time I post, you guys have already asked and answered twice.  Ka ching. Ka ching. I'll concede your point on non-debunk....and add to it by saying that per his admission to his mom, he was lying in the email on at least ONE point so why not another.... oh wait he stuck to the point about her being drunk didn't he....so he could be lying about that in the true version......Send me back to square one again... Laughing
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« Reply #526 on: June 25, 2005, 01:28:44 AM »

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Bingo,,,tell us more,,,would love your thoughts.
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« Reply #527 on: June 25, 2005, 01:29:18 AM »

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im still catching up from today but with all the talk about jorans shirt, does anyone remember what he was wearing that nite? and has that outfit/shirt been accounted for? just a small piece but if he was wearing one of his two favorite shirts and now one is gone, that would be pretty interesting.


I swear I thought some of the MB'ers said they looked him on the web and it was the same outfit. VEry foggy and in the far corners of my minds.
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« Reply #528 on: June 25, 2005, 01:29:21 AM »

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Quote from: "melrose"
Does anyone know if the beach with the fishermans hut is called the Marriott beach by the locals or does it have another name?


Directions Follow the main road along the coast to the high rise hotels. Continue to the last hotel (Mariott). We are 1/4 mile from the hotel at the beach. Look out for the blue center with flags at the beach. (Fisherman's Huts).  
http://www.windsurfingholidays.net/school_details.php?SupplierID=4510

there was a rumor that at the same time
when they said "something bad happened" right around that time
they also said that she was burried at the 'fishermans huts'

damn now I'm thinkin they wouldn't have had to go far
not very far to drag a body
down the beach
and I would say there probably wouldn't be anyone around that spot
that late at night

thanks for the link.  On greta tonight when she was tracing the  path they took she ended at Marriott Beach and the hotels look  A lot further away than a 1/4 mile.  Are the fishermans huts at Marriott Beach proper or maybe between the beach and the hotel?
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« Reply #529 on: June 25, 2005, 01:29:58 AM »

Nancy:

please dont tell me you think Greta of Fox network news is sitting on those police interrogations.  Im not privy to any police knowledge, im using common sense.  I cant follow your thought process without going outside reality.  Let me give you a lesson on police evidence sharing here.

Local police - They know everything
Our FBI - Their kknowledge is about 90%, but since they kids were moved to the prison the FBI interrogators were not allowed to sit in any more meetings.
Greta of Fox - 10% - This lady knows nothing, which means you are basing your points on 10% of the evidence.
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« Reply #530 on: June 25, 2005, 01:31:46 AM »

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Nancy:

please dont tell me you think Greta of Fox network news is sitting on those police interrogations.  Im not privy to any police knowledge, im using common sense.  I cant follow your thought process without going outside reality.  Let me give you a lesson on police evidence sharing here.

Local police - They know everything
Our FBI - Their kknowledge is about 90%, but since they kids were moved to the prison the FBI interrogators were not allowed to sit in any more meetings.
Greta of Fox - 10% - This lady knows nothing, which means you are basing your points on 10% of the evidence.


But Razzy what of the hotel videos you speak of, what is on them and where is the link, or source.
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« Reply #531 on: June 25, 2005, 01:32:33 AM »

I swear I thought some of the MB'ers said they looked him on the web and it was the same outfit. VEry foggy and in the far corners of my minds.[/quote]

yes i read that at the beginning but i thought it was in reference to two different pictures. i saw his tickle site the very first day and alot of the pictures of him were in those two shirts. also on a few of his friends tickle sites, pictures of them with joran , he is also wearing one of the two short sleeved blue white button downs. i dont know, probably grasping at straws anyways!!!
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« Reply #532 on: June 25, 2005, 01:32:38 AM »

2nd time of asking- did anyone see Larry King tonight?  there was a teenage boy w/dark hair reporting Natalee asked (presumably at the HI casino) if Joran was going to be at C&C's later that night?  was he from MBHS?  they showed a 15 second clip of the boy and never said another word about it.  didn't see a name for him on screen.  thanks.
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« Reply #533 on: June 25, 2005, 01:32:48 AM »

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Im gathering that wonder woman is one to be ignored here, just from my first glance in reading.


No, not at all, she is just trying to stay pratical while the rest of us conjure up conspiracy theories.


DAG is one of us who's more uh...self-effacing?  I knew I shoulda paid more attention to English classes... Wink

Personally, I skip every other WonderWoman post. LOL
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« Reply #534 on: June 25, 2005, 01:32:59 AM »

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I would add that Deepaks emails do not support her running away either. You can not believe them and that she ran away.


Ka ching....logic rears it's ugly head.   Wink Laughing  Laughing



logic?

i'll re-post for you:

the dropping at HI part is the cover story...but other than that, he did not see her after the Marriot(supposedly).....nor did he ever talk to her like Joran did.

So, the e-mail neither debunks or supports my "hopeful" theory


Chill, ww. No need to repost. My computer is getting slow so by the time I post, you guys have already asked and answered twice.  Ka ching. Ka ching. I'll concede your point on non-debunk....and add to it by saying that per his admission to his mom, he was lying in the email on at least ONE point so why not another.... oh wait he stuck to the point about her being drunk didn't he....so he could be lying about that in the true version......Send me back to square one again... Laughing


Im chillin...I just didnt think you were with the whole

"Ka-Ching" thing.
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« Reply #535 on: June 25, 2005, 01:33:18 AM »

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Yes, I do remember momma VDS saying that when Greta was talking to the VDSs.  I found it interesting that she only made this comment after daddy VDS got up to answer the phone and was not in the room.  Shocked


Tila wasnt that comment "odd", I have a masters in psychology and human behavior and that comment reeks of emotional abuse.  That kid is a master manipulator, possibly learned from his father.  That poor lady is blinded to the truth of who her family really is.


Yes Razzy I did find that odd.  Joran made other statements as well to his mother such as the "kicking Natalee in the butt" thing that's just out there to me.  I also can't believe that mommy VDS made that statement about this case no longer being about Natalee.  I cringe everytime I see that footage of her interview. Shocked
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« Reply #536 on: June 25, 2005, 01:33:24 AM »

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RazzyBerry:
>>there were 2 pictures on another site I found a little alarming, the one where a belt is tied around someones neck and just the overall size of this guy at 17 years old. Hes almost a physical freak of nature. The hormones raging in a guy that size at his age is alot to handle.

Now that's freaking funny dude. Smile

>>There was a comment made by his mother also that struck me as pathological. She said that she asked Joran why he was even out that night and he said " mom if you never would have gone to Holland then I would have never thought about going out".

The other one about (paraphrase) 'he's going to kick Natalee's butt when she comes out of hiding' struck me. Any innocent fool knows there's an overwhelming chance she's dead. If not, where's she 'hiding' dude?!


The quote was "kick her but IN FRONT OF HER MOTHER" very distasteful at the least.


I heard that comment but natalies mother wasnt there at that interview.  Only Greta was allowed in on that meeting because the lawyers said not to talk to Natalies family anymore.  The only meeting with natalies mother was the prior day and it wasnt allowed to be taped.
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« Reply #537 on: June 25, 2005, 01:33:33 AM »

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But Razzy what of the hotel videos you speak of, what is on them and where is the link, or source.
Yes, please post link.  Thanks.
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« Reply #538 on: June 25, 2005, 01:34:02 AM »

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RB:
>>Wanted you to know I second this: Gretta said tonight that she didn't hear VDS say anythin at all that she thought coud be incriminating, makes me wonder if they aren't just grasping at straws with the arrest

However, I responded to arubagirl last night about an "ex-polis commissioner" confirming this by phone to a FOX talking head. I heard the Aruban spokesman confirm it when asked TWICE tonight on FOX's "The Big Story" if Greta's interview (inconsistencies) brought PVDS into custody.

[edit]The answer was 'YES' both times.[/edit]


Gretta isnt privy to the police transcripts with Paulus. He probably told them something different than what he said on the interview. He should have listened to his own advice he gave Joran to keep quiet.
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« Reply #539 on: June 25, 2005, 01:34:15 AM »

Any thoughts that the local police DO know the truth, but don't know what to do with it being that it could ruin the reputation of the island, their economy, a future judge? It seems alot of bits and pieces are not being followed up on, or I'm not catching them, ie. the underwear found, the duct tape, etc.? Just another thought  Smile
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