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« Reply #540 on: June 25, 2005, 01:34:46 AM »

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There is absolutely no factual basis for a comparison between Paulas Van Der   Sloot and Ted Bundy!!!!

Yes, I have compassion, but I also but I also believe in fair justice.  The charges against him right now aren't even for murder...much less serial murder.

Not even close.


That's why I read evey nancy_drew post...

Never read any Nancy Drew book, though.
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« Reply #541 on: June 25, 2005, 01:34:50 AM »

Think the island of Aruba would be willing to invest in a island-wide CCTV system at this point?  Something much like the country of England has.  Might have been useful a little over three weeks ago.
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« Reply #542 on: June 25, 2005, 01:36:07 AM »

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2nd time of asking- did anyone see Larry King tonight?  there was a teenage boy w/dark hair reporting Natalee asked (presumably at the HI casino) if Joran was going to be at C&C's later that night?  was he from MBHS?  they showed a 15 second clip of the boy and never said another word about it.  didn't see a name for him on screen.  thanks.


Yes, and it is "quoted" in Deepak's e-mail

:see other thread:

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« Reply #543 on: June 25, 2005, 01:36:26 AM »

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2nd time of asking- did anyone see Larry King tonight?  there was a teenage boy w/dark hair reporting Natalee asked (presumably at the HI casino) if Joran was going to be at C&C's later that night?  was he from MBHS?  they showed a 15 second clip of the boy and never said another word about it.  didn't see a name for him on screen.  thanks.


I saw that and was wondering who he was too.  If I remember right the boy had an accent so I assumed it was a friend of Joran's.
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« Reply #544 on: June 25, 2005, 01:36:32 AM »

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RazzyBerry:
>>there were 2 pictures on another site I found a little alarming, the one where a belt is tied around someones neck and just the overall size of this guy at 17 years old. Hes almost a physical freak of nature. The hormones raging in a guy that size at his age is alot to handle.

Now that's freaking funny dude. Smile

>>There was a comment made by his mother also that struck me as pathological. She said that she asked Joran why he was even out that night and he said " mom if you never would have gone to Holland then I would have never thought about going out".

The other one about (paraphrase) 'he's going to kick Natalee's butt when she comes out of hiding' struck me. Any innocent fool knows there's an overwhelming chance she's dead. If not, where's she 'hiding' dude?!


The quote was "kick her but IN FRONT OF HER MOTHER" very distasteful at the least.


I heard that comment but natalies mother wasnt there at that interview.  Only Greta was allowed in on that meeting because the lawyers said not to talk to Natalies family anymore.  The only meeting with natalies mother was the prior day and it wasnt allowed to be taped.


Razz, he told classmates that he would kick Natalee's butt in front of her mother ( as in for her mother to see) Are we on the same page? Confused
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« Reply #545 on: June 25, 2005, 01:36:33 AM »

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Nancy:

please dont tell me you think Greta of Fox network news is sitting on those police interrogations.  Im not privy to any police knowledge, im using common sense.  I cant follow your thought process without going outside reality.  Let me give you a lesson on police evidence sharing here.

Local police - They know everything
Our FBI - Their kknowledge is about 90%, but since they kids were moved to the prison the FBI interrogators were not allowed to sit in any more meetings.
Greta of Fox - 10% - This lady knows nothing, which means you are basing your points on 10% of the evidence.


But Razzy what of the hotel videos you speak of, what is on them and where is the link, or source.


There are no posted videos that have been shared with the public- as those would be evidence, this comes from listening to what is being said in the interviews.  There were comments on fox regarding implicating behavior of hotel videos, not only relating to Natalie but behavior issues of the parties involved in general.
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« Reply #546 on: June 25, 2005, 01:37:05 AM »

Good night all.   Laughing
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« Reply #547 on: June 25, 2005, 01:37:10 AM »

Ok, skipped over 5 pages of posts (not too shabby hehe). Hello everyone!

I've been stuck on a post by poster heartache on the previous RBN thread.

Assuming Sonny VDS called Daddy VDS after some accident/foul play...

If he called Daddy from the Marriott beach, there would have been a cell phone call from there, and Daddy would have been hauled in sooner.

The fact that this is improbable (due to Daddy only being detained today, thus no cell phone record of such a call) this would lead one to assume that it Sonny may have taken Natalee to his 'appartment'.

The implication of this is that the Kelpoes are lying about the Marriott beach dropoff, and that they dropped Joran and Natalee at the VDS residence (makes sense if you read Dutch Lady's theory, under Theory and Speculation).

The alternative is that Joran really did walk home, being a big ol' jerk and leaving Natalee passed out (but still alive) at the beach near the Marriott. Which leads me to ask, why lie, and not just a simple lie, but a lie orchestrated between himself and the Kalpoes? if they are completely innocent?

The latter alternative does not jive.

Thoughts? Comments?  Corrections in my late night logic?
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« Reply #548 on: June 25, 2005, 01:37:16 AM »

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Quote from: "hardin9744"
2nd time of asking- did anyone see Larry King tonight?  there was a teenage boy w/dark hair reporting Natalee asked (presumably at the HI casino) if Joran was going to be at C&C's later that night?  was he from MBHS?  they showed a 15 second clip of the boy and never said another word about it.  didn't see a name for him on screen.  thanks.


Yes, and it is "quoted" in Deepak's e-mail

:see other thread:

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Seems as though Deepak has alot of friends............
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« Reply #549 on: June 25, 2005, 01:37:23 AM »

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2nd time of asking- did anyone see Larry King tonight?  there was a teenage boy w/dark hair reporting Natalee asked (presumably at the HI casino) if Joran was going to be at C&C's later that night?  was he from MBHS?  they showed a 15 second clip of the boy and never said another word about it.  didn't see a name for him on screen.  thanks.



But don't have a name or location.
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« Reply #550 on: June 25, 2005, 01:38:22 AM »

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Local police - They know everything


Seems to me that the local police don't know anything except how to try to force a confession out of someone. Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #551 on: June 25, 2005, 01:38:38 AM »

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RazzyBerry:
>>there were 2 pictures on another site I found a little alarming, the one where a belt is tied around someones neck and just the overall size of this guy at 17 years old. Hes almost a physical freak of nature. The hormones raging in a guy that size at his age is alot to handle.

Now that's freaking funny dude. Smile

>>There was a comment made by his mother also that struck me as pathological. She said that she asked Joran why he was even out that night and he said " mom if you never would have gone to Holland then I would have never thought about going out".

The other one about (paraphrase) 'he's going to kick Natalee's butt when she comes out of hiding' struck me. Any innocent fool knows there's an overwhelming chance she's dead. If not, where's she 'hiding' dude?!


The quote was "kick her but IN FRONT OF HER MOTHER" very distasteful at the least.


I heard that comment but natalies mother wasnt there at that interview.  Only Greta was allowed in on that meeting because the lawyers said not to talk to Natalies family anymore.  The only meeting with natalies mother was the prior day and it wasnt allowed to be taped.


Razz, he told classmates that he would kick Natalee's butt in front of her mother ( as in for her mother to see) Are we on the same page? Confused


Yes he said he would "kick natalies butt" but that is probably the least of all the incriminating statements as that just means, she should be ashamed for making her parents worry.  That statement is basically a smoke shield JVDS gave his own mother, and doesn't really mean hes a ass kicker.
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« Reply #552 on: June 25, 2005, 01:39:05 AM »

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Does anyone know if the beach with the fishermans hut is called the Marriott beach by the locals or does it have another name?


Directions Follow the main road along the coast to the high rise hotels. Continue to the last hotel (Mariott). We are 1/4 mile from the hotel at the beach. Look out for the blue center with flags at the beach. (Fisherman's Huts).  
http://www.windsurfingholidays.net/school_details.php?SupplierID=4510

there was a rumor that at the same time
when they said "something bad happened" right around that time
they also said that she was burried at the 'fishermans huts'

damn now I'm thinkin they wouldn't have had to go far
not very far to drag a body
down the beach
and I would say there probably wouldn't be anyone around that spot
that late at night

thanks for the link.  On greta tonight when she was tracing the  path they took she ended at Marriott Beach and the hotels look  A lot further away than a 1/4 mile.  Are the fishermans huts at Marriott Beach proper or maybe between the beach and the hotel?

I think it's between
but thier quote was
"close to the fisherman's huts"
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« Reply #553 on: June 25, 2005, 01:40:53 AM »

Quote from: "hardin9744"
2nd time of asking- did anyone see Larry King tonight?  there was a teenage boy w/dark hair reporting Natalee asked (presumably at the HI casino) if Joran was going to be at C&C's later that night?  was he from MBHS?  they showed a 15 second clip of the boy and never said another word about it.  didn't see a name for him on screen.  thanks.


The young man reported that Nat and Joran met days before CnC. There are some people that believe they just met that one day..but no it was more like days.
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« Reply #554 on: June 25, 2005, 01:41:53 AM »

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Nancy:

please dont tell me you think Greta of Fox network news is sitting on those police interrogations.  Im not privy to any police knowledge, im using common sense.  I cant follow your thought process without going outside reality.  Let me give you a lesson on police evidence sharing here.

Local police - They know everything
Our FBI - Their kknowledge is about 90%, but since they kids were moved to the prison the FBI interrogators were not allowed to sit in any more meetings.
Greta of Fox - 10% - This lady knows nothing, which means you are basing your points on 10% of the evidence.


But Razzy what of the hotel videos you speak of, what is on them and where is the link, or source.


There are no posted videos that have been shared with the public- as those would be evidence, this comes from listening to what is being said in the interviews.  There were comments on fox regarding implicating behavior of hotel videos, not only relating to Natalie but behavior issues of the parties involved in general.


So is that the 10% you were talking about?
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« Reply #555 on: June 25, 2005, 01:41:59 AM »

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Ok, skipped over 5 pages of posts (not too shabby hehe). Hello everyone!

I've been stuck on a post by poster heartache on the previous RBN thread.

Assuming Sonny VDS called Daddy VDS after some accident/foul play...

If he called Daddy from the Marriott beach, there would have been a cell phone call from there, and Daddy would have been hauled in sooner.

The fact that this is improbable (due to Daddy only being detained today, thus no cell phone record of such a call) this would lead one to assume that it Sonny may have taken Natalee to his 'appartment'.

The implication of this is that the Kelpoes are lying about the Marriott beach dropoff, and that they dropped Joran and Natalee at the VDS residence (makes sense if you read Dutch Lady's theory, under Theory and Speculation).

The alternative is that Joran really did walk home, being a big ol' jerk and leaving Natalee passed out (but still alive) at the beach near the Marriott. Which leads me to ask, why lie, and not just a simple lie, but a lie orchestrated between himself and the Kalpoes? if they are completely innocent?

The latter alternative does not jive.

Thoughts? Comments?  Corrections in my late night logic?


Good logic on the cell phone theory. But what if Joran is telling the truth. He said that Natalee wanted to stay at the beach. From what weve heard her quoted before it was her last night in Aruba. This would be about 3:00 am? Plenty of time for someone else to kidnap her - hence the lack of real evidence in this case.
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« Reply #556 on: June 25, 2005, 01:43:09 AM »

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I would add that Deepaks emails do not support her running away either. You can not believe them and that she ran away.


Ka ching....logic rears it's ugly head.   Wink Laughing  Laughing



logic?

i'll re-post for you:

the dropping at HI part is the cover story...but other than that, he did not see her after the Marriot(supposedly).....nor did he ever talk to her like Joran did.

So, the e-mail neither debunks or supports my "hopeful" theory


Chill, ww. No need to repost. My computer is getting slow so by the time I post, you guys have already asked and answered twice.  Ka ching. Ka ching. I'll concede your point on non-debunk....and add to it by saying that per his admission to his mom, he was lying in the email on at least ONE point so why not another.... oh wait he stuck to the point about her being drunk didn't he....so he could be lying about that in the true version......Send me back to square one again... Laughing


Im chillin...I just didnt think you were with the whole

"Ka-Ching" thing.


You're right. Sorry..Just trying to be Hip, I guess. (Is is still hip to use the word "hip"? The exchanges on here sometimes look like a tennis match or something.  point, counterpoint. I used the wink to show I was kidding, but I think we all forget that the written word can come across different than we might mean.
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« Reply #557 on: June 25, 2005, 01:43:11 AM »

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Quote from: "hardin9744"
2nd time of asking- did anyone see Larry King tonight?  there was a teenage boy w/dark hair reporting Natalee asked (presumably at the HI casino) if Joran was going to be at C&C's later that night?  was he from MBHS?  they showed a 15 second clip of the boy and never said another word about it.  didn't see a name for him on screen.  thanks.


The young man reported that Nat and Joran met days before CnC. There are some people that believe they just met that one day..but no it was more like days.

What's bothering me now is that PVDS was at the HI casino that same night (as reported on FOX News tonight).
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« Reply #558 on: June 25, 2005, 01:43:44 AM »

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Quote from: "Getagrip"
Ok, skipped over 5 pages of posts (not too shabby hehe). Hello everyone!

I've been stuck on a post by poster heartache on the previous RBN thread.

Assuming Sonny VDS called Daddy VDS after some accident/foul play...

If he called Daddy from the Marriott beach, there would have been a cell phone call from there, and Daddy would have been hauled in sooner.

The fact that this is improbable (due to Daddy only being detained today, thus no cell phone record of such a call) this would lead one to assume that it Sonny may have taken Natalee to his 'appartment'.

The implication of this is that the Kelpoes are lying about the Marriott beach dropoff, and that they dropped Joran and Natalee at the VDS residence (makes sense if you read Dutch Lady's theory, under Theory and Speculation).

The alternative is that Joran really did walk home, being a big ol' jerk and leaving Natalee passed out (but still alive) at the beach near the Marriott. Which leads me to ask, why lie, and not just a simple lie, but a lie orchestrated between himself and the Kalpoes? if they are completely innocent?

The latter alternative does not jive.

Thoughts? Comments?  Corrections in my late night logic?


Good logic on the cell phone theory. But what if Joran is telling the truth. He said that Natalee wanted to stay at the beach. From what weve heard her quoted before it was her last night in Aruba. This would be about 3:00 am? Plenty of time for someone else to kidnap her - hence the lack of real evidence in this case.


Why lie then, and try to blame it on the hotel guards.  Innocent people dont concoct stories and alibis.
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« Reply #559 on: June 25, 2005, 01:44:01 AM »

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Does anyone know if the beach with the fishermans hut is called the Marriott beach by the locals or does it have another name?


Directions Follow the main road along the coast to the high rise hotels. Continue to the last hotel (Mariott). We are 1/4 mile from the hotel at the beach. Look out for the blue center with flags at the beach. (Fisherman's Huts).  
http://www.windsurfingholidays.net/school_details.php?SupplierID=4510

there was a rumor that at the same time
when they said "something bad happened" right around that time
they also said that she was burried at the 'fishermans huts'

thanks - i need to watch the greta rerun and find a map - i might have got her location wrong

damn now I'm thinkin they wouldn't have had to go far
not very far to drag a body
down the beach
and I would say there probably wouldn't be anyone around that spot
that late at night

thanks for the link.  On greta tonight when she was tracing the  path they took she ended at Marriott Beach and the hotels look  A lot further away than a 1/4 mile.  Are the fishermans huts at Marriott Beach proper or maybe between the beach and the hotel?

I think it's between
but thier quote was
"close to the fisherman's huts"
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