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« Reply #600 on: June 25, 2005, 02:02:52 AM »

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Joran Van Der Sloot is a sociopath, he could walk away from a burning building with a gas can in his hand and convince everybody he had nothing to do with it.


Ok, so tell me then. He's on the beach alone with Natalee. No car. No shovel. How does he dispose of her body?
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« Reply #601 on: June 25, 2005, 02:03:30 AM »

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Who they blamed it on is immaterial, the fact that they felt the need to concoct an alibi implicated them.  Then on top of that they changed the story 3 times. Bottom line, innocent people dont concoct stories and one of the telltale signs of crimincal involvement is the changing of stories of the parties involved with the crime itself.


They (brothers) changed once, Joran changed to: I went home first, then OOPS they told the truth...okay it was me alone with Natalie at the beach.
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« Reply #602 on: June 25, 2005, 02:03:44 AM »

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Joran Van Der Sloot is a sociopath, he could walk away from a burning building with a gas can in his hand and convince everybody he had nothing to do with it.


Ok, so tell me then. He's on the beach alone with Natalee. No car. No shovel. How does he dispose of her body?


He calls Daddy!
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« Reply #603 on: June 25, 2005, 02:03:54 AM »

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Hi all. Been lurking for weeks, so decided to join.

About Natalee knowing Joran.

On  the O'Reilly Factor on Fox, he had on 2 kids from MBHS. A boy and a girl, both were on the trip. The boy, Edward Kissel said:

Natalee and Joran and some of natalee's better friends were hanging out together for the 2 or 3 days.

The girl, I didbn't catch her name said, Natalee is the reason she passed calculus.

Anyway, thought it interesting that Natalee and her better friends did seem to know Joran for longer than the last night.

Welcome PeeCee Smile

Yeah, there have been a few contradicting statements about when they met. I attribute it to Joran having been around the HI casino for a few days, and all the kids being all over the place. So, bottom line, I don't think we know for sure when NH and Joran actually met.
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« Reply #604 on: June 25, 2005, 02:04:05 AM »

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on Greta tonight- where did that come from that PVDS was at HI casino w/Joran and all the MBHS kids?  which night did she mean?  could it have been earlier in the week?

not sure what this means- but it is another thing to add to the confusion, i.e, did PVDS see/meet Natalee too??


Theres something on those hotel videos.  Im telling you people, im not sure what it is but something on those videos is implicating the father. They are insuating that he was there based on the videos.


Ok I'll bite and add. What if the 3am a MCD rumor is not from the MBHS'ers seeing PVDS but actually from video.
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« Reply #605 on: June 25, 2005, 02:05:21 AM »

Afterr party? or party in my apartment....another thought...

We have not idea what story they have told the LE>..maybe the "truth" and now they are looking for the body....

Did you see Beth Twitty today,,,or her dad?   I think things have changed
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« Reply #606 on: June 25, 2005, 02:05:43 AM »

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You really have no idea how much evidence the police have right now, just because there is no body doesnt mean the police dont have plenty of evidence.  You better believe they have something to arrest a local judge and continue holding him.  

and that comment "something bad happened"  - people keep forgetting this comment.  this was made by someone probably one of the brothers.  They are probably pounding JVDS regarding it...and hes not breaking.


Apparantly they had no evidence on the 2 security guards whatsoever and they were arrested for murder and kidnapping. Arresting Jorans dad is a very good sign that they dont have any evidence. Whatever those kids say now I would consider to be a statement under duress. Like torturing someone into a confession - it means nothing.


You dont understand the way the arubian system works and your terminology is from the arrest systems of the USA. No one has been charged for murder or kidnapping.  They can only be detained for suspicion under arubian law for 116 days without being formally charged.  You can hold someone for those 116 days if there is sufficient evidence, at certain time points 6 hours, 48 hours, etc etc, further evidence must be presented.  Arresting Jorans father means they have more than you think.


Right, and theres gonna be a major break in this story in the next 24 hours. We've been hearing that for the last 3 weeks. Sorry but I think your LE is barking up the wrong tree.
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« Reply #607 on: June 25, 2005, 02:05:46 AM »

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on Greta tonight- where did that come from that PVDS was at HI casino w/Joran and all the MBHS kids?  which night did she mean?  could it have been earlier in the week?

not sure what this means- but it is another thing to add to the confusion, i.e, did PVDS see/meet Natalee too??


Theres something on those hotel videos.  Im telling you people, im not sure what it is but something on those videos is implicating the father. They are insuating that he was there based on the videos.


Then why didn't they arrest him in the first place?
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« Reply #608 on: June 25, 2005, 02:06:10 AM »

Razzy:

What role do you think the brothers and the DJ play in this?
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« Reply #609 on: June 25, 2005, 02:06:40 AM »

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I would add that Deepaks emails do not support her running away either. You can not believe them and that she ran away.



 the dropping at HI part is the cover story...but other than that, he did not see her after the Marriot(supposedly).....nor did he ever talk to her like Joran did.

So, the e-mail neither debunks or supports my "hopeful" theory


If her condition in the email is an indication, she was in no condition to run away.


What email?  Are we now referring to the faux Depak email as a case reference?  Yikes, and double yikes.


Please stop saying faux....

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« Reply #610 on: June 25, 2005, 02:06:53 AM »

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Joran Van Der Sloot is a sociopath, he could walk away from a burning building with a gas can in his hand and convince everybody he had nothing to do with it.


Ok, so tell me then. He's on the beach alone with Natalee. No car. No shovel. How does he dispose of her body?


He calls Daddy!


As the smart guy pointed out. Wouldnt the cell phone records have shown that early on? Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #611 on: June 25, 2005, 02:07:27 AM »

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Maybe it's one of those deals where you acted like a jerk, left the drunk girl on the beach....now she's missing....Oh no...you're freaking out...you know you didn't do anything wrong..she'll turn up...just say you let her out at HI...you even say she was talking to a security guard so she must have been alright....Now she doesn't turn up...you've got to keep lying...they arrest a couple of security guards...she's still gone.... you start to think, maybe the security guard did have something to do with it....By then you're stuck in your lie....then you have to keep lying...you figure out quick that you can't lie anymore cause other folks are not lying anymore. Oh my ...you're in it up to your eyeballs now because of that first stupid lie....And you're finally figuring out that you've got to tell the truth. But now no one believes you now because of the first lie.......Mama always said if you tell one lie you're gonna have to tell three more to cover that one up....


Innocent people dont need 3 cover stories and alibis. Why not, I left her there, the end.  Trying to implicate innocent guards RED FLAG number 1.
Changing the story to dropped her off at marriott RED FLAG number 2. OK OK OK I was with her alone at the beach but I didnt touch her RED FLAG number 3.
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« Reply #612 on: June 25, 2005, 02:07:43 AM »

Good night all!!!

Sweet dreams and remember to pray for Natalee and her family.

See y'all tomorrow!!!!!!!
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« Reply #613 on: June 25, 2005, 02:08:04 AM »

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on Greta tonight- where did that come from that PVDS was at HI casino w/Joran and all the MBHS kids?  which night did she mean?  could it have been earlier in the week?

not sure what this means- but it is another thing to add to the confusion, i.e, did PVDS see/meet Natalee too??


Theres something on those hotel videos.  Im telling you people, im not sure what it is but something on those videos is implicating the father. They are insuating that he was there based on the videos.


Then why didn't they arrest him in the first place?


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« Reply #614 on: June 25, 2005, 02:08:06 AM »

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Joran Van Der Sloot is a sociopath, he could walk away from a burning building with a gas can in his hand and convince everybody he had nothing to do with it.


Ok, so tell me then. He's on the beach alone with Natalee. No car. No shovel. How does he dispose of her body?


He calls Daddy!


As the smart guy pointed out. Wouldnt the cell phone records have shown that early on? Rolling Eyes

Pssst...Ima girl Razz

The mishap happened at the appartment, in my estimation.
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« Reply #615 on: June 25, 2005, 02:08:38 AM »

>>Ok I'll bite and add. What if the 3am a MCD rumor is not from the MBHS'ers seeing PVDS but actually from video.

My thoughts too. Who cares when MD closes? Surely they don't shut down the cams.
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« Reply #616 on: June 25, 2005, 02:09:21 AM »

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There is absolutely no factual basis for a comparison between Paulas Van Der   Sloot and Ted Bundy!!!!

Yes, I have compassion, but I also but I also believe in fair justice.  The charges against him right now aren't even for murder...much less serial murder.

Not even close.


murder is murder whether its one body or 30.  Youre trying to say that I compared ted bundys murder to Paulas Van Der Sloots involment which I did not, your comment suggested that nice law abiding respectable citizens dont commit crime and shouldt be falsely accused.  

1. Ted Bundy was well liked a highly intelligent and respected.
2.  The BTK killer was an active member of the community and his church.
3.  Aruban law has the right to detain someone based on suspicion alone for a certain amount of time.  
4.  You better believe the Aruban authorities have a good reason to hold Mr Van der Sloot and I can promise you they arent telling Fox news or calling your house to give you the low down on it either.  
5. There is something on those Hotel video tapes that paint a pretty dirty picture of the Vander Sloot men and you wont get that at blockbuster.

You need to open your eyes to see whats not being told here.  They know what happened, but they cant charge them till they find her.  Out of 1000 things they know, fox news has probably been told about 10 of them.


Just savin' this one so I can find it...it's the "only one murder conviction in the history of Netherlandic law theory...yada yada...
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« Reply #617 on: June 25, 2005, 02:09:45 AM »

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>>Ok I'll bite and add. What if the 3am a MCD rumor is not from the MBHS'ers seeing PVDS but actually from video.

My thoughts too. Who cares when MD closes? Surely they don't shut down the cams.


They didn't get the MCD cams until PVDS is questioned and says he picked up JVDS at 11. Watched the whole night and there they were.
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« Reply #618 on: June 25, 2005, 02:09:53 AM »

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Joran Van Der Sloot is a sociopath, he could walk away from a burning building with a gas can in his hand and convince everybody he had nothing to do with it.


Ok, so tell me then. He's on the beach alone with Natalee. No car. No shovel. How does he dispose of her body?


He calls Daddy!


As the smart guy pointed out. Wouldnt the cell phone records have shown that early on? Rolling Eyes


Would there be records if he used a pay phone?  Do we know he had his cell on him aside from the story from the brothers that he called or messaged them???  Can we believe this story from them??
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« Reply #619 on: June 25, 2005, 02:10:03 AM »

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Joran Van Der Sloot is a sociopath, he could walk away from a burning building with a gas can in his hand and convince everybody he had nothing to do with it.


Ok, so tell me then. He's on the beach alone with Natalee. No car. No shovel. How does he dispose of her body?


He calls Daddy!


As the smart guy pointed out. Wouldnt the cell phone records have shown that early on? Rolling Eyes

Pssst...Ima girl Razz

The mishap happened at the appartment, in my estimation.


So they WALKED to his apartment?
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