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« Reply #1000 on: June 25, 2005, 03:59:23 PM »

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Angie - howdy - I think there are two suspected Mcdonalds events -
1- Joran calls Dad for ride home after time at the HI casino to get home in time for curfew

2- there is talk that some MB kids saw PVDS at the Mcdonalds at 3AM in the morning - this one I don't get since how would they recognize PVDS? they might recognize JVDS but not his dad so that one seems more doubtful to me


or someone local saw pauluas at a different mc'ds @ 3am???


I'm afraid the 3:00am sighting by MB students is one of many rumors.



I think maybe not necessarily, if Natalee's twin cousins met joran playing poker, they may well of had met the Dad.  Could these be the ones who seen him at micky-d's?  Possibility I think....
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« Reply #1001 on: June 25, 2005, 03:59:27 PM »

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Im thinking they gotta do something regarding paulus cause his 48 hours is up, if they keep him longer without a formal hearing that would probably compromise the entire case.


surely if that were the case, he would be released and re-detained. he turned himself in.


The overall story on him turning himself in is that they knew from police and they just didn't want it to happen at the house on camera. So the VDS went to the police instead.
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« Reply #1002 on: June 25, 2005, 03:59:30 PM »

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Im thinking they gotta do something regarding paulus cause his 48 hours is up, if they keep him longer without a formal hearing that would probably compromise the entire case.


Is he gonna get out on a technicality?


Now wouldn't that be some sh*t! Evil or Very Mad
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« Reply #1003 on: June 25, 2005, 04:00:27 PM »

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Also, they said the suspects haven't arrived at the courthouse yet.

About the sharks, I heard the report on the area where they dump garbage...but then, what's his name the Aruban spokesman said there are NO sharks around Aruba...


to think there are "no" sharks around aruba would be like thinking there is no sand on the beach, and regardless, having sharks does not mean a body would disappear instantly.....


And sharks are not good for tourism either..


Not at all! Laughing  Laughing  Laughing
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« Reply #1004 on: June 25, 2005, 04:00:45 PM »

InspectorDetector - I think we keep forgetting that - it's all speculation and they can be held without the kind of evidence we would assume in the US.

In ways I really like the Dutch system since it gets suspects off the streets and out of the way for investigators ... but it also means folks can be held for almost nothing which is scary.

back to our regularly scheduled speculations ...
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« Reply #1005 on: June 25, 2005, 04:01:14 PM »

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On FOX:  Rumor is that Satish may be released.


If his mother's story turns out to be true, this kid (Satish) was certainly at the wrong place/wrong time. All he did was pick his brother up from work.  Shocked  Laughing
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« Reply #1006 on: June 25, 2005, 04:01:18 PM »

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Anyone hear fro Rob yet???  was he going on vacation or to help with the search???


Rob had a vacation planned there before all this happened.  He posted recently, but maybe today is his travel-day, and we'll get some posts from here once he has arrived:

 
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i m leaving for aruba tommorrow morn and dont know how long i can stay on.. my house is ramshackled and i still have some packing to do.. but if i find out anything down there i will check in with you guys to confirm anything that might be under the radar screen...

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« Reply #1007 on: June 25, 2005, 04:02:07 PM »

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Im thinking they gotta do something regarding paulus cause his 48 hours is up, if they keep him longer without a formal hearing that would probably compromise the entire case.


Is he gonna get out on a technicality?

When was PVDS taken in?  Wasn't it yesterday afternoon/evening?  If so they have until tomorrow afternoon/evening.
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« Reply #1008 on: June 25, 2005, 04:03:07 PM »

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Im thinking they gotta do something regarding paulus cause his 48 hours is up, if they keep him longer without a formal hearing that would probably compromise the entire case.


Is he gonna get out on a technicality?

When was PVDS taken in?  Wasn't it yesterday afternoon/evening?  If so they have until tomorrow afternoon/evening.[/quote
 
Thursday I believe.
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« Reply #1009 on: June 25, 2005, 04:03:10 PM »

Since we have no new news at the moment - one more question for folks. Yesterday there was lots of discussion about insurance and kidnapping coverage or something. Was this pure speculation or was there a policy taken out on Natalee?

(trying to clear up the odd bits swirling in my head)
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« Reply #1010 on: June 25, 2005, 04:03:33 PM »

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Im thinking they gotta do something regarding paulus cause his 48 hours is up, if they keep him longer without a formal hearing that would probably compromise the entire case.


Is he gonna get out on a technicality?

When was PVDS taken in?  Wasn't it yesterday afternoon/evening?  If so they have until tomorrow afternoon/evening.


It was day before yesterday.  I dont know how strict aruba law is regarding ther 48 hours deal, maybe a local can help us on this one.
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« Reply #1011 on: June 25, 2005, 04:03:36 PM »

From Rheil World View:

Update: 4 PM

"As Fox is now reporting, sources on the island recently informed me that there was a problem with a flight from Curacao to Aruba, causing a delay in an extension hearing for three of the boys held.

There is unconfirmed speculation on the ground at this time that one, or possibly two of the suspects could be released after that hearing - with more arrests coming tonight, or tomorrow."
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« Reply #1012 on: June 25, 2005, 04:03:37 PM »

I don't think they have any evidence at all. They said just the fact he told his son to say nothing is reason to arrest him, since he is an attorney. Even though he is not an attorney, they called him that given his legal background. He said "he is first a judge, but he is also a father. If I told my son to say nothing, I would not be arrested but he would." I think they are trying to force a confession by parading him in front of the kid in prison. He is not in the jail, he is in with his son. The son was in the jail, so why is the father not in the jail now, he is being used. Would not want to be a suspect in Aruba. And the way they operated, it is wise to say to your child "say nothing" if you are accused of a crime that is wise everywhere. The father did not take his own advice though. The more they go after this family like this, the more sympathy I have for them because they are not getting a fair deal at all, the media is convicting them before they have a chance to even know what evidence the prosecution has agianst them.
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« Reply #1013 on: June 25, 2005, 04:03:56 PM »

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Familie tevreden na arrestatie
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De familie van Natalee Holloway, de Amerikaanse die bijna vier weken geleden op Aruba verdween, is tevreden over de aanhouding, afgelopen donderdag, van rechter-in-opleiding Paul van der S.

,,De familie heeft het gevoel dat met deze arrestatie het mysterie van de verdwijning van Natalee kan worden opgelost'', zegt Natalees tante Linda Allison.

De familie Holloway heeft sinds de aankomst op Aruba, ruim drie weken geleden, geen vertrouwen gehad in Van der S. Allison: ,,Toen Natalees moeder Beth en stiefvader Jug de familie bezochten, zagen ze dat Van der S. zijn zoon adviseerde niets te zeggen. Dat begrijpen wij niet. Waarom zou je niet praten als je niets te verbergen hebt?''

Zoon Joran van der S. was al eerder gearresteerd op verdenking van de moord op het 18-jarige meisje. Natalee Holloway verdween 30 mei, op de laatste avond van een vijfdaagse trip naar Aruba die was bedoeld om te vieren dat ze voor haar eindexamen was geslaagd. Hoewel haar lijk niet is gevonden, gaat de politie ervan uit dat ze is vermoord. Behalve vader en zoon Van der S. zijn nog drie verdachten aangehouden: de Surinaamse broers Satish en Deepak K., boezemvrienden van Joran, en de Arubaanse deejay Steve C.

Volgens Jorans moeder, Anita, heeft haar zoon tegen haar gezegd dat hij Natalee op haar eigen verzoek op het strand had achtergelaten en dat hij niet weet wat er met haar is gebeurd.

Om de schijn van belangenverstrengeling te voorkomen, heeft het Gemeenschappelijk Hof van Justitie van de Nederlandse Antillen en Aruba, waar Paul van der S. werkt, besloten dat beslissingen in het onderzoek tegen de rechter uitsluitend zullen worden genomen door rechters uit Curaçao.

to prevent conflict of intress , has been decided by the commen court of the duthc antilles and aruba where PvdS works that all the decisions in the investigation will  exclusivly be taken by magistrates from curacao

I read in this article that all the decisions will be made against paulus by judges from curacao


I`m sorry i`m not that good in translations maybe iquitos or arubagirl can help out here
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« Reply #1014 on: June 25, 2005, 04:04:00 PM »

On Thursday afternoon.
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« Reply #1015 on: June 25, 2005, 04:04:24 PM »

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Anyone hear fro Rob yet???  was he going on vacation or to help with the search???


Rob had a vacation planned there before all this happened.  He posted recently, but maybe today is his travel-day, and we'll get some posts from here once he has arrived:

 
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i m leaving for aruba tommorrow morn and dont know how long i can stay on.. my house is ramshackled and i still have some packing to do.. but if i find out anything down there i will check in with you guys to confirm anything that might be under the radar screen...

ONLY THE FACTS..


TY Dallas.. I recalled him saying he was going there.. I hope he has a nice time depsite all thats going on there.. It looks so beautiful there...!
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« Reply #1016 on: June 25, 2005, 04:04:35 PM »

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Im thinking they gotta do something regarding paulus cause his 48 hours is up, if they keep him longer without a formal hearing that would probably compromise the entire case.


Is he gonna get out on a technicality?

When was PVDS taken in?  Wasn't it yesterday afternoon/evening?  If so they have until tomorrow afternoon/evening.


He was arrested Thursday at about 1-2pm
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« Reply #1017 on: June 25, 2005, 04:04:53 PM »

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I don't think they have any evidence at all. They said just the fact he told his son to say nothing is reason to arrest him, since he is an attorney. Even though he is not an attorney, they called him that given his legal background. He said "he is first a judge, but he is also a father. If I told my son to say nothing, I would not be arrested but he would." I think they are trying to force a confession by parading him in front of the kid in prison. He is not in the jail, he is in with his son. The son was in the jail, so why is the father not in the jail now, he is being used. Would not want to be a suspect in Aruba. And the way they operated, it is wise to say to your child "say nothing" if you are accused of a crime that is wise everywhere. The father did not take his own advice though. The more they go after this family like this, the more sympathy I have for them because they are not getting a fair deal at all, the media is convicting them before they have a chance to even know what evidence the prosecution has agianst them.


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« Reply #1018 on: June 25, 2005, 04:04:54 PM »

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On Thursday afternoon.

Thanks...yes, just found that date.  How strict are they on this 48hr thing, do you know?
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« Reply #1019 on: June 25, 2005, 04:05:43 PM »

klaasend, I have no idea. I would hope they're pretty strict, but don't know.
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