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« Reply #120 on: June 25, 2005, 10:03:52 AM »

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Geraldo live at 10:00 tonight on FOX


Live in Aruba.
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« Reply #121 on: June 25, 2005, 10:04:06 AM »

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I could only see one real scenario for accidental suffocation.  He is huge and she is tiny.  If she was so inexperienced with sex that she did not know to turn her head sideways so she could breath, his chest could have sealed off her breathing for too long and he might not have even realized.  Of couse I would be biting someone to get them to move, but if she were drugged or had blacked out, that also could have her suffocate under his size.

I just don't think it was accidental suffocation.


 I dont either but when you say he did something on purpose, people here freak out.
I only stuck the word accident in there to make them think I was giving him the benefit of the doubt which I dont.
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« Reply #122 on: June 25, 2005, 10:04:33 AM »

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cover her mouth to keep her from screaming.


I think you'd have to cover the nose and mouth, and for several minutes, and beyond the point at which she lost consciousness.  It takes 4 minutes with a lack of oxygen to die. So, if that scenario were true, he had to have gone way beyond trying to keep her from screaming.


I also think the image of the mother is very revealing. I just can't picture the mother of an 18 year old going to any party dressed in such a revealing top with a white bra showing through it.  There are slips, camisoles etc., and she is the wife of a judge. I do think it may reveal something about the dysfunction within the family and could lead to some speculation about the son's emotional disturbance.


There are shirts in certain lights that will be more revealing at times.  Mrs VDS probably saw that picture and said OMG I didnt know you could see my bra in the bright lights.[/quote]

Yeah I'm sure she didn't know it would show like that until she saw the pictures. And I'm sure it wasn't that bad without the flash.
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« Reply #123 on: June 25, 2005, 10:04:56 AM »

Dublin is stating that elder woman are not allowed to ware see trough blouses as it might be suspicious , help me remind my mother not to where these

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I don't know about that, Dublin.  Plenty of women have a fashion sense issue Smile  Doesn't make them dysfunctional, it makes them perhaps a tad naive.

Also, I have to mention that the word dysfunction applied to this family may not, IMO, be correct used in a context we're familiar with.  I've seen rampant the posts condemning the VSD father and son for gambling, for example, but going to the casino is something that may be accepted as the norm there, isn't it?
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« Reply #124 on: June 25, 2005, 10:05:09 AM »

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IN the pictures I've seen of Joran, he really does have an evil look. Anyone else notice this? Confused


I think he looks like Frankenstein without the neck bolts.


lets ot be juvenile about this.  please post your picture so i can see who you look like
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« Reply #125 on: June 25, 2005, 10:05:17 AM »

Men may come up with all different excuses or legal ways out for Joran, but most women know that the men are responsible for her disappearance.  We may not know exactly how they carried it out.  But we know they should be made to tell where her body is and punished.  We do not care which country the woman or man is from.  We know they did away with her, because her life or death wasn't as important to them as covering their sleezy asses.
If a Dutch judge is sent to Aruba, it is more likely to get PVDS off.  If I were an Aruban politician, I would be furious!  I will never visit Holland either!
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« Reply #126 on: June 25, 2005, 10:05:29 AM »

On the bra thing, it just happens with some fabrics and lights.  Remember that one of the daughters of Kerry had a revealing photo that was making the rounds.  Pretty much the same thing--I am sure she did not even know it would photograph that way until the picture hit the press.

Most women don't take a picture before we wear something.


The interesting thing though is that Joran or someone put that picture out in public.  Has to be a way to make fun of his mom.
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« Reply #127 on: June 25, 2005, 10:05:40 AM »

Thanks, MB, nice to see you again.

Razzy, you wish to keep people focused on your opinion.  Others have theirs.  We'll take care of the topic in this thread and you continue believing what you believe - others have a right to their views too.
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« Reply #128 on: June 25, 2005, 10:05:52 AM »

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getting offt opic here but...our fellow monkey.....
DJ TAYLOR IS IN LABOR! SHE WENT TO THE HOSPITAL THIS MORNING AT ABOUT 1.45!! WISH HER LUCK W/ HER FIRST BABY!


I do! I hope all goes well! Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy
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« Reply #129 on: June 25, 2005, 10:06:03 AM »

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I don't know about that, Dublin.  Plenty of women have a fashion sense issue Smile  Doesn't make them dysfunctional, it makes them perhaps a tad naive.

Also, I have to mention that the word dysfunction applied to this family may not, IMO, be correct used in a context we're familiar with.  I've seen rampant the posts condemning the VSD father and son for gambling, for example, but going to the casino is something that may be accepted as the norm there, isn't it?


If you read the quotes from the news where Joran blamed his mother for all this since she was in Holland, and he wouldn't have gone to the club if she'd been home, then you'll see what I mean by dysfunctional.

If you read the profiler's description of the type of person who'd have committed this murder, and then look at the family, you may see some similarities and perhaps look at the family's dysfunction as a source of the problem.
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« Reply #130 on: June 25, 2005, 10:07:04 AM »

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Can someone fill me in really quickly on what's been happening?


Joran killed natalie,tried to cover it up and the texas search team hopefully will find her soon. thats basically it.


Wait, how do you know? He admitted to it?


No but im just trying to keep everybody focused on whats the most likely scenario.


That is your most likely scenario, everyone is entitled to an opinion..you know opinions are like noses..everyone has one..
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« Reply #131 on: June 25, 2005, 10:07:09 AM »

Dublin, that's a reasonable reply and I can buy that.  I'll take a gander and see if changes what I'm thinking...
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« Reply #132 on: June 25, 2005, 10:07:50 AM »

Well you know more then we do , wich facts can you present us to conclude that joran has killed natalee.

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Can someone fill me in really quickly on what's been happening?


Joran killed natalie,tried to cover it up and the texas search team hopefully will find her soon. thats basically it.


Wait, how do you know? He admitted to it?


No but im just trying to keep everybody focused on whats the most likely scenario.
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« Reply #133 on: June 25, 2005, 10:08:11 AM »

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getting offt opic here but...our fellow monkey.....
DJ TAYLOR IS IN LABOR! SHE WENT TO THE HOSPITAL THIS MORNING AT ABOUT 1.45!! WISH HER LUCK W/ HER FIRST BABY!


I do! I hope all goes well! Very Happy  Very Happy  Very Happy


What a wonderful, exciting time for her, please keep us informed.  Prayers for DJ Taylor and precious angel to come.
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« Reply #134 on: June 25, 2005, 10:10:01 AM »

Without taking up space doing all those long quotes......


I agree with those who recognize that flash photography could be responsible for the see-through blouse on Mrs.VDS.

Second, has it ever been established that JVDS ever made a video of a 14 yr old girl?? I thought is was something Geraldo came out with that was later retracted.
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« Reply #135 on: June 25, 2005, 10:10:02 AM »

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On the bra thing, it just happens with some fabrics and lights.  Remember that one of the daughters of Kerry had a revealing photo that was making the rounds.  Pretty much the same thing--I am sure she did not even know it would photograph that way until the picture hit the press.

Most women don't take a picture before we wear something.


The interesting thing though is that Joran or someone put that picture out in public.  Has to be a way to make fun of his mom.


Well, I agree with that. It is possible she was unaware, but why did the son put it out there. I guess I'm hinting at the possibility that there is something going on in the family for him to dislike women as much as he seems to.  Why was he dating a 13 year old. If he was as successful at school and athletics as people say, then why weren't there girls his own age that he could go out with?  Why date a 13 year old, unless perhaps he was able to manipulate her more easily.
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« Reply #136 on: June 25, 2005, 10:10:24 AM »

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I wonder what the average education level is of the people who visit this blog


In my case a 4 yr degree plus some grad school. I see no reason to insult anyone, if that was your insinuation. If not I will apologize.
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« Reply #137 on: June 25, 2005, 10:10:47 AM »

Dublin, you're pointing a "respect" issue between son and mother correct?
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« Reply #138 on: June 25, 2005, 10:10:57 AM »

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Thanks, MB, nice to see you again.

Razzy, you wish to keep people focused on your opinion.  Others have theirs.  We'll take care of the topic in this thread and you continue believing what you believe - others have a right to their views too.


where did i say they didnt?
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« Reply #139 on: June 25, 2005, 10:11:22 AM »

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Without taking up space doing all those long quotes......


I agree with those who recognize that flash photography could be responsible for the see-through blouse on Mrs.VDS.

Second, has it ever been established that JVDS ever made a video of a 14 yr old girl?? I thought is was something Geraldo came out with that was later retracted.


It's just a rumor as of now.
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