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« Reply #220 on: June 25, 2005, 10:44:05 AM »

Dublin, I can ASSURE you that the girls do not feel dissed in any way.
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« Reply #221 on: June 25, 2005, 10:44:54 AM »

Good Morning All~~~~~
Has anyone heard anything on the man that flew into Aruba, checked into Natalee's hotel and mysteriously disappeared about the same time as Natalee?
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« Reply #222 on: June 25, 2005, 10:45:51 AM »

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Can someone clear up if PvdS was spotted at the Holiday Inn casino with Joran when he met Natalee, or is this just a rumor that has been repeated so often it is being accepted as fact?


Great said that PvdS was with JvdS earlier in the day at the casino, then P took J home at 11:00.
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« Reply #223 on: June 25, 2005, 10:46:05 AM »

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I do not know if this made the board, but they have brought a new judge in from Holland for the 3 pm hearing. The conventional wisdom is that the present judge has heard too much evidence that the Royal Court needs fresh eyes on this case.


Woooo.  That's a big change. The whole our-civil-servant-may-be implicated has gotten some attention, has it?


Can somebody explain that one to me? Bringing in a new judge, because the OLD judge has HEARD TOO MUCH EVIDENCE? Huh? I thought that's what judges were supposed to do. Hear evidence. What am I missing here?
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« Reply #224 on: June 25, 2005, 10:46:19 AM »

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Dublin, I can ASSURE you that the girls do not feel dissed in any way.


Agreed. Most think it's cool and a compliment...unfortunately.
But it's still just normal teen stuff.
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« Reply #225 on: June 25, 2005, 10:46:33 AM »

God knows when our kids mess up we are the first to blame ourselves, doesn't mean that we raised them wrong or that our families are dysfunctional but we will be the first to question every minute detail of where we may have went wrong, sometimes we can conclude that it is not something that we have done and we cannot put them in a bubble all their lives and never be exposed to anything...this is the feeling that I get from Jorans Mom.
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« Reply #226 on: June 25, 2005, 10:46:36 AM »

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Can someone clear up if PvdS was spotted at the Holiday Inn casino with Joran when he met Natalee, or is this just a rumor that has been repeated so often it is being accepted as fact?


Great said that PvdS was with JvdS earlier in the day at the casino, then P took J home at 11:00.


Great said....

Uhhhh - why can't I type Greta correctly?
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« Reply #227 on: June 25, 2005, 10:46:46 AM »

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I'm interested in hearing more about the guy Greta referred to who didn't return to the U.S.  She said there was a man who was on the plane to Aruba with NH and her group, that he stayed at the same HI, and there is no record of his returning to the US.  I find this intriguing but hesitant to start speculating on it.

Has anyone heard anything else mentioned about this?


I didn't see Greta's report, but it may be the same story I saw a week or so ago.

This guy (adult) went to Aruba, I think he was a snorkeling or some other water sport fanatic. He checked into the hotel, and was never seen again. His family tried to search for him, but the Aruban authorities told them he probably just wanted to disappear.
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« Reply #228 on: June 25, 2005, 10:47:11 AM »

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Good Morning All~~~~~
Has anyone heard anything on the man that flew into Aruba, checked into Natalee's hotel and mysteriously disappeared about the same time as Natalee?


I just asked the same question, LTL .... this little tidbit of info kept me awake last night.
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« Reply #229 on: June 25, 2005, 10:47:24 AM »

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I do not know if this made the board, but they have brought a new judge in from Holland for the 3 pm hearing. The conventional wisdom is that the present judge has heard too much evidence that the Royal Court needs fresh eyes on this case.


Woooo.  That's a big change. The whole our-civil-servant-may-be implicated has gotten some attention, has it?


Can somebody explain that one to me? Bringing in a new judge, because the OLD judge has HEARD TOO MUCH EVIDENCE? Huh? I thought that's what judges were supposed to do. Hear evidence. What am I missing here?


Im guessing hes overwhelmed.  Maybe getting a second opinion.
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« Reply #230 on: June 25, 2005, 10:47:35 AM »

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So, if Joran and PVDS go to clubs together, are said to have both been seen at the casino that night, then PVDS picked up Joran at the McDonalds at 11 and they both went to the casino together?  

Otherwise, why were they calling the Kalpoe brother for a ride?  NH and JVDS didn't leave the club until around 1:00.  PVDS told police he took Joran home, and Joran has said he snuck out, but what if they have PVDS on video in the club after 11:00 pm that night?

I thought the report was that he went to pick Joran up at 3 am, but I've also seen a report that PVDS called Joran on his cell at 6 am, when he suspected he wasn't at home.


It was reported last night on Great that PVDS was at the HI casino earlier that day with Jornan (when the Joran first met Nat).  According to Dad, he picked Joran up at the McD's at 11pm, went home and went to sleep. Joran snuck out, went to C&C's to meet Nat, asked Kalpoe bros for a ride after leaving C&C's with Natalee. Bros dropped them off at the Marriott beach.

I'm very curious to know if PVDS ever LEFT the HI casino. Since there is a rumor about him been seen at McD's at 3am and he, himself mentioned he picked his son up at McD's at 11pm.
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« Reply #231 on: June 25, 2005, 10:47:44 AM »

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Anyone out there. Have you ever gone to a 15 year old's party where they danced think Joran and that girl did? Am I missing something? Parent's did not put a stop to that? I know chaperones would put a stop to that at most proms! You are judged by your behavior right or wrong, I see why people don't have a problem bashing Joran
 

you have to understand the cultural context to understand the picture.  if you don't, please refain from comment.  otherwise you betray your ignorance.


Enlighten this ignorant person please....


They are saying that this is normal teen behavior...and not a reason to judge.



And I am saying the lack of respect for women is what causes the lack of
self restaint either way.  When he has no problems acting like that in front of his parents, her parents, he has a sense of I can do what ever I want when I want.. Before you start bashing, I worked in a police dept for 10years in florida. I know the type.


Well I certainly wasn't bashing.
I'm a teenager, I'm just another kid, and I know these kinds of things are normal...just imitations of MTV and rap videos. It might be crass, but it's nothing to read into, really. That kind of dancing is extremely normal.
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« Reply #232 on: June 25, 2005, 10:47:48 AM »

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Can someone clear up if PvdS was spotted at the Holiday Inn casino with Joran when he met Natalee, or is this just a rumor that has been repeated so often it is being accepted as fact?


Would not swear to it,,but think it was "mentioned" that he was seen on the casino camera...and that he left Joran there and went home,,,came back for him at 11..??  This was a tv report...
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« Reply #233 on: June 25, 2005, 10:48:15 AM »

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I'm interested in hearing more about the guy Greta referred to who didn't return to the U.S.  She said there was a man who was on the plane to Aruba with NH and her group, that he stayed at the same HI, and there is no record of his returning to the US.  I find this intriguing but hesitant to start speculating on it.

Has anyone heard anything else mentioned about this?


I don't see a lot of information on it, but the actual story was that he was checked in to the HI the same day, there is no record of his leaving the island, but I didn't actually read that he was on the chartered flights.  THat may be false.  If he was on those flights, I think someone would have raised that issue.

Someone else could have come to the island and then have left by a cruise or small boat or be staying with friends, so wouldn't necessarily leave one to suspect foul play. I'm interested in knowing if more develops on that issue though.

Greta has come up with some great leads, so I assume if it was to pan out she'd follow it.
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« Reply #234 on: June 25, 2005, 10:48:16 AM »

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 HOLY COW..... just because this poor woman is lacking fashion sense does not indicate family dysfunction.......
 like i say, if all family dysfunction led to murder we would need more cemeteries.[/quote]

No kidding.[/quote]

Why would she suspect any problem with Yoran when he was a good student, well liked and thought of and active in sports?  Doesn't sound to me like there are any warning signs there.  What a tragedy for all involved.
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« Reply #235 on: June 25, 2005, 10:48:37 AM »

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I agree with Razzberry. Let's face it, some folks only remind us that we are operating on rumor and speculation when they don't like our conclusions

No Professor, I don't like conclusions such as these when the tone of the post appears to want to force them down my, and others who perhaps have dissenting opinions, throat Smile  Whether it's meant to be perceived that way or not, I don't know, but there it is.


Nothing has been forced down anyones throat, maybe thats your perception because the opinion just happens to be something you dont agree with.
Ive answered everyones sarcastic questions pointed at me with as much tact as I can without LOL and rolling eyes at their questions which was how they were presented to me.


Razzy,

Don't take it personally, but some of your responses are more sarcastic than the opinion or the question.  You want to assume that Joran killed Nat and you don't wish to explore other possibilities.  IMO, that is pretty closed minded, but it's your opinion and you don't need to resort to sarcasm to express it.  I respect your opinion, but you need to respect others as well.

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« Reply #236 on: June 25, 2005, 10:48:44 AM »

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Good Morning All~~~~~
Has anyone heard anything on the man that flew into Aruba, checked into Natalee's hotel and mysteriously disappeared about the same time as Natalee?


I just asked the same question, LTL .... this little tidbit of info kept me awake last night.



LOL! me too!
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« Reply #237 on: June 25, 2005, 10:49:07 AM »

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Can someone clear up if PvdS was spotted at the Holiday Inn casino with Joran when he met Natalee, or is this just a rumor that has been repeated so often it is being accepted as fact?


Great said that PvdS was with JvdS earlier in the day at the casino, then P took J home at 11:00.


Great said....

Uhhhh - why can't I type Greta correctly?


'Cuz she's Greta the Great!! lol

Thank you for the info.
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« Reply #238 on: June 25, 2005, 10:49:38 AM »

Denile isn't just a river in Egypt sweetie.  Unfortunately, she was probably unaware of half of what was going on with the men in her family.
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« Reply #239 on: June 25, 2005, 10:50:18 AM »

They get new judges from Neth. Ant.  to make sure there is impartiality. They also did it in the Sydney Ponson case.(=idiot Aruban pitcher who works for Baltimore Orioles who decided to beat up a judge of all people)
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