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Author Topic: RBN #24 6/25/05 Daytime  (Read 213071 times)
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« Reply #280 on: June 25, 2005, 11:05:49 AM »

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In the US you are presumed innocent until proven guilty under the law.

You are actually either guilty or innocent.

In the US, unless you are on the jury, you can presume whatever you want about someone's guilt or innocence.


Actually in California you are always innocent no matter what.
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« Reply #281 on: June 25, 2005, 11:06:06 AM »

last time i checked, there is no correlation between underage gambling (possibly under parental supervison) and murder.
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« Reply #282 on: June 25, 2005, 11:06:32 AM »

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I don't see a lot of information on it, but the actual story was that he was checked in to the HI the same day, there is no record of his leaving the island, but I didn't actually read that he was on the chartered flights.  THat may be false.  If he was on those flights, I think someone would have raised that issue...


The Mountain Brooks group flew to Aruba on a commercial flight, not a charter.

The only charter involved in the story is when Natalee's parents flew to Aruba when they learned that their daughter was missing.
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« Reply #283 on: June 25, 2005, 11:06:52 AM »

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<<<<dublin: you start out with an unproven assertion that joran and father went to casinos together. we have no source confirmation on that. >>>>

It was reported on Greta's show last night that father and son were at the Holiday Inn casino TOGETHER when Joran first met Natalee.


odd, i did not hear that, must have dozed off.  did greta ask why v/ sloots  had told her something else in her interview with them?


I don't remember hearing Greta ask PVDS if he saw Natalee in the casino or if he was even there.  Why didn't she ask him?  This is odd.
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« Reply #284 on: June 25, 2005, 11:07:16 AM »

arubagirl, do you know if your island has a dump where they haul all the trash to? or does it get hauled out on a boat?
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« Reply #285 on: June 25, 2005, 11:07:45 AM »

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It was also reported that there was a confession.

Just sayin'

Sorry, just woke up.  Am I hearing that there's been a confession and yet another retraction?  Or is this a new confession?
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« Reply #286 on: June 25, 2005, 11:08:17 AM »

<<<So, if Paul gave Joran a ride at 11:00 then what were all the calls to "satish"? (not sure of spelling) at about the same time regarding a ride? At least per Mrs. Kalpoe's interview...>>>

The call to Satish was to give Joran and Natalee a lift back to the hotel. Not sure how Joran got to C&C's....as Deepak was supposedly working.
Just my opinion, but I don't think Joran ever went home...took a jitney bus to C&C's after gambling all day.
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« Reply #287 on: June 25, 2005, 11:09:10 AM »

If Arubagirl is back from hanging her laundry - have you seen the Texas group - are they searching behind the International School - hope so.
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« Reply #288 on: June 25, 2005, 11:09:12 AM »

Perhaps Greta got the info about PvdS being in the HI casino from the HI security tapes.
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« Reply #289 on: June 25, 2005, 11:09:14 AM »

No klaas - it's in references to the Saturday night debacle a couple of weeks ago...old news.
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« Reply #290 on: June 25, 2005, 11:09:47 AM »

im not going to sleep until the search team finds her.  I might be up 5 days.
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« Reply #291 on: June 25, 2005, 11:10:06 AM »

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Actually in California you are always innocent no matter what.


Ain't that the truth!
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« Reply #292 on: June 25, 2005, 11:10:30 AM »

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im not going to sleep until the search team finds her.  I might be up 5 days.
Shoot, me too.  Crying or Very sad
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« Reply #293 on: June 25, 2005, 11:11:03 AM »

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Perhaps Greta got the info about PvdS being in the HI casino from the HI security tapes.


thats what I think, can you imagine her asking PVDS in front of his wife if he was gambling at the casino and she didnt know.  Would have shifted the focus of the interview.
Greta was smart not to call him out on that.
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« Reply #294 on: June 25, 2005, 11:11:30 AM »

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im not going to sleep until the search team finds her.  I might be up 5 days.
Shoot, me too.  Crying or Very sad


Time for a 12 step program!
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« Reply #295 on: June 25, 2005, 11:11:50 AM »

Wow...head spinning in so many details! Ok....does anyone know how Joren got from his home after VDS Sr picked him up....to Carlos and Charlies??? How far is Carlos and Charlies from the VDS residence?? I'm asking because it is my understanding that the Kalpoe brothers were called to pick him up from C&C.....but I don't recall hearing how he got to C&C's?
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« Reply #296 on: June 25, 2005, 11:12:27 AM »

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The simplest and most straightforward explanation is that Joran gave Natalee a date-rape drug, took her to a beach and had sex with her, where he either murdered her or she OD'd. You may not WANT to believe it, and there may be other POSSIBLE explanations for Natalee's disappearance, but that is still the most believable scenario.


It's the simplest and most straightforward only if others come forward to show the guy has a history of OD'ing and raping girls.  Seems to me Joran is a 17 year old wannabe, not a hard-core criminal type.  Accidental death seems more likely.  Or, maybe, just maybe, he was the last person seen but not last person with her.
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« Reply #297 on: June 25, 2005, 11:12:46 AM »

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My daughter just graduated from college and she had never ballroom or swing danced in her life. They did at the university and downtown clubs, she loved it and so did her friends. It was the rage a few years ago..She and her friends were in a commerical because of it.


we had squaredancing in highschool for gym, i loved that!



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« Reply #298 on: June 25, 2005, 11:12:58 AM »

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im not going to sleep until the search team finds her.  I might be up 5 days.
Shoot, me too.  Crying or Very sad


Time for a 12 step program!


Maybe we can get a group rate!!
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« Reply #299 on: June 25, 2005, 11:13:03 AM »

Are we focusing too much attention on natalee's disappearance?  Useless-knowledge.com thinks so.

http://www.useless-knowledge.com/1234/june/article378.html
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