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Author Topic: RBN #24 6/25/05 Daytime  (Read 207517 times)
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« Reply #340 on: June 25, 2005, 11:31:46 AM »

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He dated a 13 year old?


Yes, earlier this spring. Best friend of his younger brother's girlfriend.
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« Reply #341 on: June 25, 2005, 11:32:36 AM »

They interviewed one classmate on CNN, I think it was. I don't know the name, but it wasn't one of the names that was discussed on the boards.
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« Reply #342 on: June 25, 2005, 11:32:54 AM »

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Without anyone seeing him? Lucky bastard.

Joran isn't allowed to drive, legally. That's not to say that he didn't, of course.


is the driving age 18 in aruba?
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« Reply #343 on: June 25, 2005, 11:33:28 AM »

Correct, Razz.

You can't get any sort of driving privileges before you're 18
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« Reply #344 on: June 25, 2005, 11:33:34 AM »

That is a part of it. Now you see why I'm questioning the discrepancy in the times?  If Paul came to pick up Joran at 11:00 and yet they were calling Satish for a ride at about the same time, then someone here is lying it seems


Earlier in the interview the Kalpoe Mom said that Deepak will sometimes stay a little later at the internet cafe to close out the shop if patrons stay a little longer.  

So - PvdS picks up Joran at 11:00, gets home 11:15.  Joran calls Satish or Deepak at 11:20, while they (Deepak and Satish) are still at the internet cafe, and asks for a ride to CnC.
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« Reply #345 on: June 25, 2005, 11:34:06 AM »

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He dated a 13 year old?


It is my understanding that yes, and when her mother found out about it forced the breakup.

I'll try to find you a link to that info.
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« Reply #346 on: June 25, 2005, 11:34:12 AM »

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Then an athlete could easily jog home on the main streets. Who would see someone after 2 in the morning? I know men in their 50s who run for many miles every day. I would think an athlete who is 17 would have no problem getting home before he had to leave for school. He could run for awhile and rest, and run again...hiding if he saw headlights

I wondered if anyone would bring that up.  Joran is an athlete and it would make sense he could have run home.


Didn't someone post the mileage from the Marriott beach to his house?
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« Reply #347 on: June 25, 2005, 11:34:29 AM »

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Re: Dad & Joran at HI together
Source: taped last night's Greta...

In her timeline, she just said this is the casino where Nat met Joran on May 29th.  According to what Mr. VDS said yesterday, he and Joran were there gambling, at some time Mr VDS decided to go home, he left Joran there, his son doesn't drive, his son had no way of getting home, but his son was there with a bunch of friends gambling.  At about 11pm Mr. VDS got a phone call to pick up his son.  Call did not come from casino, but rather from a few blocks away at McDs.  Don't know how Joran got there, but is just a few blocks away, certainly walking distance


how could mr v/d sloot say someting to greta yesterday if he was in jail?
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« Reply #348 on: June 25, 2005, 11:34:41 AM »

It's 5km. Someone do the math in miles for me, please
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« Reply #349 on: June 25, 2005, 11:35:35 AM »

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It's the simplest and most straightforward only if others come forward to show the guy has a history of OD'ing and raping girls. Seems to me Joran is a 17 year old wannabe, not a hard-core criminal type. Accidental death seems more likely.

I have heard rumors that Joran, as Absolut put it to me, "was a playa" and was having his pick of chicks on and off the island.  I rather looked at him like he was nuts, because that if the guy is soooo well liked, how come more women haven't come out to support him? I mean help me out here Monkey women:  if a guy you dated had this happen to him and you found him to fun, engaging, funny, etc, wouldn't you have a vocal opinion?


Yes I would.  I believe only one girl has spoken out about Joran and supported him on camera.  I also found it strange that we haven't heard any support coming from any of his male friends.  Where are they? Shocked


They are probably scared that they will be hauled in for questioning if they start talking to the press.
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« Reply #350 on: June 25, 2005, 11:35:53 AM »

Im confused about all these pick up times.  And what is the significance of the pick up from the Internet Cafe around 10 pm - when all the bad stuff happened after 1am when the CNC closed.
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« Reply #351 on: June 25, 2005, 11:35:59 AM »

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It's 5km. Someone do the math in miles for me, please


3.11 miles
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« Reply #352 on: June 25, 2005, 11:36:11 AM »

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It's 5km. Someone do the math in miles for me, please


3 miles.
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« Reply #353 on: June 25, 2005, 11:36:19 AM »

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It's 5km. Someone do the math in miles for me, please


A little over 2 miles
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« Reply #354 on: June 25, 2005, 11:36:32 AM »

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It's 5km. Someone do the math in miles for me, please
off the top of my head i think it's about 3 miles
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« Reply #355 on: June 25, 2005, 11:36:42 AM »

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Joran didn't have to do with what?  What did Joran do after he left the club with Natalee and the Kalpoes?  I don't know, you don't know.

 Maybe Joran did not do anythng more than have Natalee pass out on him.  He left her there  She never showed up at her hotel room and nobody who is talking noticed until the next morning.  

Joran was embarrassed and lied.   He would have been better off not saying anything when confronted by the cops and the family.  Our little story would have been neater.  I would say Joran has plenty of reason to lie, since he lied in the beginning and was caught out.  we don't know how many story changes there have been.  We have no access to the investigative file.  

For me, it is hard to imagine a scenario in which Joran would kill Natalee by himself.  Murder is just too extreme for the imaginable circumstances involving Natalee and Joran alone.  Either it was an accident, or something happend to Natalee after Joran left.  Joran is under arrest and under intense pressure to confess a crime he may not have committed.  The cops are not looking for the truth, but a confession.  If Joran did not do anything to Natalee he can't confess, so he has to keep feeding the cops stories.  That is the same thing a captured military person would do to avoid revealing sensitive information  The Arubans desperately need to solve the crime and have already rushed to judge the wrong guys once.  Absent a body and evidence, they could be grasping at straws again and the stakes are now much higher.  

There is a logical explanation for this but it is not that Joran killed her and then he and others disposed of her body to cover it up.  It could have happend that way but it would not make sense.


Thats a very touching story, but Joran killed natalie, lied to authorities 3times and asked his friends to help substantiate a false alibi.  Try again.


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« Reply #356 on: June 25, 2005, 11:36:57 AM »

Greta was wearing the blue blouse when she was taping in front of the casino, and on Thur show, Greta had blue blouse on, so that is why Greta says "yesterday", it is because the segment they ran last night was when she was taping in front of casino was actually taped on Thurs and ran last night
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« Reply #357 on: June 25, 2005, 11:36:58 AM »

Thanks, Sandy, RB and Professor.
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« Reply #358 on: June 25, 2005, 11:37:03 AM »

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It's 5km. Someone do the math in miles for me, please



A tad over 3 miles. Is this as the crow flies or by the roads? You can walk 3 miles in less than an hour, and run it in even less time.
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« Reply #359 on: June 25, 2005, 11:37:10 AM »

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Then an athlete could easily jog home on the main streets. Who would see someone after 2 in the morning? I know men in their 50s who run for many miles every day. I would think an athlete who is 17 would have no problem getting home before he had to leave for school. He could run for awhile and rest, and run again...hiding if he saw headlights

I wondered if anyone would bring that up.  Joran is an athlete and it would make sense he could have run home.


Didn't someone post the mileage from the Marriott beach to his house?
 
general consensus of aruban posters is that it is walkable, maybe hour - hour and a half.  i think he could have walked but he did not have much time to dispose of the body and then walk home before daylight.  they don't walk much there, gas is too cheap and they all drive everywhere.
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