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« Reply #560 on: June 25, 2005, 01:22:48 PM »

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Just because this guy may not have had a problem getting girls doesn't mean he didn't use a date rape drug.  I've heard of people who have used the drug on women, who had no problem getting women whatsoever.


Right, take a look at the Andrew Luster case. He was the heir to to Max Factor dynasty, handsome, well educated, and he was a serial rapist that used date rape drugs. He even like to film it!


Little, did they ever find him? I know he skipped the country to the Caribbean somewhere right?

Yes, Dog Chapman caught him in Mexico and he was even thrown into a Mexican jail with Luster! Luster is in prison in the states now.
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« Reply #561 on: June 25, 2005, 01:23:13 PM »

Compananzi, as I understand it, AP said that Dompig told a reporter that "something bad has happened", and it hit the airwaves. PM screaming he doesn't know anything, Dompig saying he didn't say anything, and Rudy Croes screaming he doesn't know anything.
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« Reply #562 on: June 25, 2005, 01:23:20 PM »

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I find it amazing that virtually everyone (with a few exceptions0 think she was given a date rape drug.

My perspective is that she met Joran at the casino (and had probably seen him around the HI and possibly at CnCs), invited him to CnCs.  And he came even tho he said most people didn't go out on Sundays.

So she introduced herself to him and invited him to CnCs.  He shows up....they dance....they leave together.  She chooses to go with him rather than with the MBHSers.

Where in this scenario is a date rape drug???  Granted there was one report of hearsay that he used the drug....but how reliable is that?

I'm just sayin that I for one don't think a date rape drug was involved.


Why not?  Just because she was talking to him doesn't mean he didn't use the drug.
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« Reply #563 on: June 25, 2005, 01:23:54 PM »

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I can't remember where I read, or saw this...so it might not be a trustworthy source....

Somewhere it stated the boat owner would not hand over the boat "log" to investigators.  

Also, I recall the owner stating the boat did not go out that night on a typical cruise.  However, the boat can be hired for a private party.  Did anyone ever report on that?  Do we know if the boat went out that night?
 

that was on tv last night about the log.  musta been greta, coulda been cnn.  ambiguity there.  boat owner also said steve is capable of driving the boat.  wnen steve first came up both arubagirl and american in aruba described him as the boat driver
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« Reply #564 on: June 25, 2005, 01:24:52 PM »

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I find it amazing that virtually everyone (with a few exceptions0 think she was given a date rape drug.

My perspective is that she met Joran at the casino (and had probably seen him around the HI and possibly at CnCs), invited him to CnCs.  And he came even tho he said most people didn't go out on Sundays.

So she introduced herself to him and invited him to CnCs.  He shows up....they dance....they leave together.  She chooses to go with him rather than with the MBHSers.

Where in this scenario is a date rape drug???  Granted there was one report of hearsay that he used the drug....but how reliable is that?

I'm just sayin that I for one don't think a date rape drug was involved.


No, it's not NECESSARILY a date-rape drug, but it was something OTHER THAN ROMANCE. If it was just romance, Natalee gets up, brushes herself off, and walks back with Joran to the HI.
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« Reply #565 on: June 25, 2005, 01:25:12 PM »

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I can't remember where I read, or saw this...so it might not be a trustworthy source....

Somewhere it stated the boat owner would not hand over the boat "log" to investigators.  

Also, I recall the owner stating the boat did not go out that night on a typical cruise.  However, the boat can be hired for a private party.  Did anyone ever report on that?  Do we know if the boat went out that night?


Never heard it went out but couldn't the police demand to see the log - failing that Greta should take a cruise and when no one is looking take a peek.


It doesn't make sense that such a huge boat, that normally isn't out after midnight, would be used to dispose of a body. Since it was visible from the Marriott, someone would have seen it leave....again making this a poor way to get rid of evidence. I would opt for a smaller boat if this is the way they handled the problem.
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« Reply #566 on: June 25, 2005, 01:25:21 PM »

Whoa inquitos, I said that he was the boat driver? Of what, Tattoo?
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« Reply #567 on: June 25, 2005, 01:25:28 PM »

I don't know if it has been mentioned before but a CNN spokes person, I forget his name, said that Joran did not have any casino debt as far as he knows or found out from the HI casino.... It is odd that Father and Son are gambling together...then again, I do believe the Dutch in general are very open and liberal, but still wonder how long they've been playing poker together?
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« Reply #568 on: June 25, 2005, 01:25:46 PM »

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Compananzi, as I understand it, AP said that Dompig told a reporter that "something bad has happened", and it hit the airwaves. PM screaming he doesn't know anything, Dompig saying he didn't say anything, and Rudy Croes screaming he doesn't know anything.

Arunbagirl would it have been normal to have these people making statements or would that be out of character given their positions?
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« Reply #569 on: June 25, 2005, 01:26:39 PM »

Hey folks

Just a remeinder that the Natalee Holloway even is this afternoon,

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1182

If any one is planning on attending this that is out there can you PM or email me?

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« Reply #570 on: June 25, 2005, 01:27:22 PM »

I got the latest issue of People magazine yesterday and it has a great article on the search for Natalee.  It also mentioned something that I had not heard before and that was that her cousins who are twin boys (sons of Marcia Twitty) were on this Aruba trip.
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« Reply #571 on: June 25, 2005, 01:27:38 PM »

I think from Dompig, it's unusual, yes. This particular police commisioner is in particular favor with the current government (that's another story), and I don't think he would be THIS stupid to tell a reporter this.

Also, a friend of mine told me that it seems that Dompig actually said "I hope nothing bad has happened". Don't know if it's true or not.
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« Reply #572 on: June 25, 2005, 01:28:11 PM »

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I find it amazing that virtually everyone (with a few exceptions0 think she was given a date rape drug.

My perspective is that she met Joran at the casino (and had probably seen him around the HI and possibly at CnCs), invited him to CnCs.  And he came even tho he said most people didn't go out on Sundays.

So she introduced herself to him and invited him to CnCs.  He shows up....they dance....they leave together.  She chooses to go with him rather than with the MBHSers.

Where in this scenario is a date rape drug???  Granted there was one report of hearsay that he used the drug....but how reliable is that?

I'm just sayin that I for one don't think a date rape drug was involved.


I agree luna. If there were any evidence whatsoever of rape, one or more of the 5 arrested would be held on suspicion of rape.
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« Reply #573 on: June 25, 2005, 01:28:21 PM »

Yes, Dog Chapman caught him in Mexico and he was even thrown into a Mexican jail with Luster! Luster is in prison in the states now.[/quote]

This is the same 'Dog' who lives in Hawaii (not sure of my spelling) - I just love hm and his 'trailer park' family.
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« Reply #574 on: June 25, 2005, 01:28:28 PM »

There were two events for the Soul Beach Festival on Sunday. One event took place at/near the Holiday Inn during the daytime. The other event was the concert, which occurred that evening. Where was the concert held? Did Natalee go to the evening concert or the daytime event? Did she go to the SBF before or after meeting Joran in the hotel casino?
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« Reply #575 on: June 25, 2005, 01:29:07 PM »

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Whoops typo, I meant 7-10 days.


Curiosity, just fyi for future assistance, you can always go back and edit a post that you write.
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« Reply #576 on: June 25, 2005, 01:29:22 PM »

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Terry - did you have memory loss?


Yes, and for a while I thought I somehow got totally wasted on two beers.
No memory of leaving, driving home, talking to my room mate, etc... Was just hot and very out of it.

I do recall scrambling to get out of the car I was in, when I realized something wasn't right.  Shocked
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« Reply #577 on: June 25, 2005, 01:29:28 PM »

la_cavaliere, at Havana Beach Club, about 10 minutes from the airport.

Gotta go, hanging the wash again.
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« Reply #578 on: June 25, 2005, 01:29:58 PM »

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I don't know if it has been mentioned before but a CNN spokes person, I forget his name, said that Joran did not have any casino debt as far as he knows or found out from the HI casino.... It is odd that Father and Son are gambling together...then again, I do believe the Dutch in general are very open and liberal, but still wonder how long they've been playing poker together?


Compananzi, have we ever even heard Daddy VDS admit to be Joran's gambling partner? That be another one of those areas Momma was unaware of. And just because one of the casinos may not show a large gambling debt on their records does not mean they didn't have those debts to be paid...to more sinister people right?
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« Reply #579 on: June 25, 2005, 01:30:01 PM »

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I can't remember where I read, or saw this...so it might not be a trustworthy source....

Somewhere it stated the boat owner would not hand over the boat "log" to investigators.  

Also, I recall the owner stating the boat did not go out that night on a typical cruise.  However, the boat can be hired for a private party.  Did anyone ever report on that?  Do we know if the boat went out that night?


Never heard it went out but couldn't the police demand to see the log - failing that Greta should take a cruise and when no one is looking take a peek.


It doesn't make sense that such a huge boat, that normally isn't out after midnight, would be used to dispose of a body. Since it was visible from the Marriott, someone would have seen it leave....again making this a poor way to get rid of evidence. I would opt for a smaller boat if this is the way they handled the problem.


The tattoo is for sale and on the website it lists as part of the inventory a 47 psg boat used to take people out to the tattoo, maybe SGC had the keys.
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