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« Reply #720 on: June 25, 2005, 02:24:12 PM »

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This doesn't really have any bearing cept the irony and possible mental affects. But are all 5 able to see each other in this process this afternoon.

JVDS may finish cracking SEEING his dad.


wouldnt you love to be the fly on the wall in that room.
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« Reply #721 on: June 25, 2005, 02:24:20 PM »

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This doesn't really have any bearing cept the irony and possible mental affects. But are all 5 able to see each other in this process this afternoon.

JVDS may finish cracking SEEING his dad.


you would hope had had some kind of compassion
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« Reply #722 on: June 25, 2005, 02:24:56 PM »

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This doesn't really have any bearing cept the irony and possible mental affects. But are all 5 able to see each other in this process this afternoon.

JVDS may finish cracking SEEING his dad.


wouldnt you love to be the fly on the wall in that room.


At this point if I were down there I would paying someone ALOT to get in.
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« Reply #723 on: June 25, 2005, 02:25:00 PM »

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RB, I thought he was. I could be mistaken, though.

Shout out to the Monkeys - anyone know fer sure that Croes is being held on the exact same charges as VSDs and Kalpoes?


i recall that to be the case: suspicion of complicity in murder,manslaughter, and kidnapping with death as outcome.
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« Reply #724 on: June 25, 2005, 02:26:02 PM »

arubagirl, are you tempted to drive down to the courthouse to get a glance of these guys this afternoon? If I lived down there I sure would be tempted
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« Reply #725 on: June 25, 2005, 02:26:50 PM »

clevfan, sometimes I am, but I know that it's going to be a circus, so then I think "never mind".
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« Reply #726 on: June 25, 2005, 02:26:53 PM »

Sorry, islandgurl, the post was too long for this thread, so I've split it so you can see it.

Refer over to:

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/viewtopic.php?t=343
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« Reply #727 on: June 25, 2005, 02:27:09 PM »

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This doesn't really have any bearing cept the irony and possible mental affects. But are all 5 able to see each other in this process this afternoon.

JVDS may finish cracking SEEING his dad.


wouldnt you love to be the fly on the wall in that room.


razzy:  now i understand why you are still so full of vineagar.  you just joined.  the rest of us are worn out.
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« Reply #728 on: June 25, 2005, 02:27:21 PM »

Must be a closed session given that the press haven't been all over the other same such hearings
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« Reply #729 on: June 25, 2005, 02:27:50 PM »

Arubagirl why don't you write a story on the Arubian perspective on this story. There will be many and it would be nice to see the   opinions of the locals.
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« Reply #730 on: June 25, 2005, 02:28:16 PM »

Arubagirl:

Do the arubans think these boys are guilty and are they mad for them causing such a problem for the island?
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« Reply #731 on: June 25, 2005, 02:29:30 PM »

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littletxlady, that's true. But we don't know if Sergio Gomez was a crime. People do disappear voluntarily. Not often, but they do.


yeah..could be he took off to cover a crazy boat chase and just....disappeared or got killed....stuff happens...would be a good story... crazy car chase in colombia...maybe he's the guy following the car???
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« Reply #732 on: June 25, 2005, 02:29:34 PM »

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This doesn't really have any bearing cept the irony and possible mental affects. But are all 5 able to see each other in this process this afternoon.

JVDS may finish cracking SEEING his dad.


wouldnt you love to be the fly on the wall in that room.


razzy:  now i understand why you are still so full of vineagar.  you just joined.  the rest of us are worn out.


Im getting pretty worn down with theories.  I fear without a full confession we may never know the whole truth.
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« Reply #733 on: June 25, 2005, 02:29:44 PM »

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Michael, the nearly headless guy was Renee van Hanniken. Girlfriend got detained for that. She was on the cover of a phone book (hee!). Sergio Gomez is a guy who disappeared and they found his truck near the gold ruins (Bushiribana). According to TOP, the family is saying that there is a good chance he left with someone else.


Who was Renee, and why did they arrest his girl friend?
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« Reply #734 on: June 25, 2005, 02:30:32 PM »

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The fifth man, Paul van der Sloot (search) the father of 17-year-old Joran was being held on suspicion of complicity to pre-meditated murder, complicity to kidnapping and murder and kidnapping. Under the Aruban system, complicity is a lesser charge.


Thanks, Razzy for the quote.

Is the operative word "pre-meditated"?


Ok I can kinda clear this up from a source that is in really broken english.

The application to this would be something along the lines of the following:

PVDS was involved after the fact. Knew situation thought about being involved and planned (premediated) assisted (complicity) in the murder, kidnapping or cover up.
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« Reply #735 on: June 25, 2005, 02:31:05 PM »

wantsanswers, I sort of did on my site. Then got hatemail. Didn't like that part

Razzy, a lot of people are convinced that the boys know what happened with NH. But abt who is the most guilty, opinions differ. Are we mad at the boys? We're getting tired of their lying, yes. And making up such stupid lies. God, we're not that stupid.
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« Reply #736 on: June 25, 2005, 02:31:29 PM »

Croes fits into the story because I believe he sold drugs to Deepak that where consequently used on Natalee... IMO

Think about it why else would someone at the age of Croes have a connection to the boys... he is too old to be "friends" with them.

Police find a cell phone call between Deepak and Croes earlier in the night.  They bring Croes in for questioning and he tells the same bogus HI drop off story to protect himself since he supplied the drugs.  Story doesn't check out and he is arressted the next day....

Makes sense to me.
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« Reply #737 on: June 25, 2005, 02:31:42 PM »

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The fifth man, Paul van der Sloot (search) the father of 17-year-old Joran was being held on suspicion of complicity to pre-meditated murder, complicity to kidnapping and murder and kidnapping. Under the Aruban system, complicity is a lesser charge.
 

the difference is paulus v/d/ sloot is held on police authority only for 48 hours.  Now the prosecutro can hold him for another 8 days after the hearing today.  he could also be released.  He will go before the judge for a prosecutorial justification of his dentention today.
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« Reply #738 on: June 25, 2005, 02:31:47 PM »

on Fox they just had an Aruban lawyer or spokespersonn who said that this hearing determines if the 4 can be held for one more 8 day period - the next hearing would hold them for 60

and the hearing on PVDS is to decide on his first 8 day hold

different standards of probable cause are involved - or rather for the 4 it is close to probable cause whereas for PDVS it's still on the suspicion level

the hearing is closed to the public

aside - does anyone have a link to a reliable report of the first meeting of Jug & posse and PVDS and JVDS? I know that they heard JVDS was at the casino but did PVDS immediately say "my son is at the casino" or did he call JVDS on cell and then say - oh, he's at the casino?
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« Reply #739 on: June 25, 2005, 02:32:48 PM »

Compananzi, Hanniken was the guy who was found at the cementary in Sabana Basora with his head almost chopped off.
His  live- in girlfriend was the one who reported the blood in her house which led to the finding of the body. Only problem was that the blood was a day old at the point of the reporting.
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