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RazzyBerry
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June 25, 2005, 11:05:49 AM »
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In the US you are presumed innocent until proven guilty under the law.
You are actually either guilty or innocent.
In the US, unless you are on the jury, you can presume whatever you want about someone's guilt or innocence.
Actually in California you are always innocent no matter what.
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iquitos
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gambling and murder
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June 25, 2005, 11:06:06 AM »
last time i checked, there is no correlation between underage gambling (possibly under parental supervison) and murder.
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Dallas Also
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June 25, 2005, 11:06:32 AM »
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I don't see a lot of information on it, but the actual story was that he was checked in to the HI the same day, there is no record of his leaving the island, but I didn't actually read that he was on the chartered flights. THat may be false. If he was on those flights, I think someone would have raised that issue...
The Mountain Brooks group flew to Aruba on a commercial flight, not a charter.
The only charter involved in the story is when Natalee's parents flew to Aruba when they learned that their daughter was missing.
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MominTN
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June 25, 2005, 11:06:52 AM »
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<<<<dublin: you start out with an unproven assertion that joran and father went to casinos together. we have no source confirmation on that. >>>>
It was reported on Greta's show last night that father and son were at the Holiday Inn casino TOGETHER when Joran first met Natalee.
odd, i did not hear that, must have dozed off. did greta ask why v/ sloots had told her something else in her interview with them?
I don't remember hearing Greta ask PVDS if he saw Natalee in the casino or if he was even there. Why didn't she ask him? This is odd.
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clevfan1234
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June 25, 2005, 11:07:16 AM »
arubagirl, do you know if your island has a dump where they haul all the trash to? or does it get hauled out on a boat?
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klaasend
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It was also reported that there was a confession.
Just sayin'
Sorry, just woke up. Am I hearing that there's been a confession and yet another retraction? Or is this a new confession?
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<<<So, if Paul gave Joran a ride at 11:00 then what were all the calls to "satish"? (not sure of spelling) at about the same time regarding a ride? At least per Mrs. Kalpoe's interview...>>>
The call to Satish was to give Joran and Natalee a lift back to the hotel. Not sure how Joran got to C&C's....as Deepak was supposedly working.
Just my opinion, but I don't think Joran ever went home...took a jitney bus to C&C's after gambling all day.
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If Arubagirl is back from hanging her laundry - have you seen the Texas group - are they searching behind the International School - hope so.
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Perhaps Greta got the info about PvdS being in the HI casino from the HI security tapes.
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June 25, 2005, 11:09:14 AM »
No klaas - it's in references to the Saturday night debacle a couple of weeks ago...old news.
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im not going to sleep until the search team finds her. I might be up 5 days.
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Actually in California you are always innocent no matter what.
Ain't that the truth!
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June 25, 2005, 11:10:30 AM »
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im not going to sleep until the search team finds her. I might be up 5 days.
Shoot, me too.
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Perhaps Greta got the info about PvdS being in the HI casino from the HI security tapes.
thats what I think, can you imagine her asking PVDS in front of his wife if he was gambling at the casino and she didnt know. Would have shifted the focus of the interview.
Greta was smart not to call him out on that.
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im not going to sleep until the search team finds her. I might be up 5 days.
Shoot, me too.
Time for a 12 step program!
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Wow...head spinning in so many details! Ok....does anyone know how Joren got from his home after VDS Sr picked him up....to Carlos and Charlies??? How far is Carlos and Charlies from the VDS residence?? I'm asking because it is my understanding that the Kalpoe brothers were called to pick him up from C&C.....but I don't recall hearing how he got to C&C's?
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Re: What did Joran do?
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June 25, 2005, 11:12:27 AM »
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The simplest and most straightforward explanation is that Joran gave Natalee a date-rape drug, took her to a beach and had sex with her, where he either murdered her or she OD'd. You may not WANT to believe it, and there may be other POSSIBLE explanations for Natalee's disappearance, but that is still the most believable scenario.
It's the simplest and most straightforward only
if
others come forward to show the guy has a history of OD'ing and raping girls. Seems to me Joran is a 17 year old wannabe, not a hard-core criminal type. Accidental death seems more likely. Or, maybe, just maybe, he was the last person seen but not last person with her.
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My daughter just graduated from college and she had never ballroom or swing danced in her life. They did at the university and downtown clubs, she loved it and so did her friends. It was the rage a few years ago..She and her friends were in a commerical because of it.
we had squaredancing in highschool for gym, i loved that!
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im not going to sleep until the search team finds her. I might be up 5 days.
Shoot, me too.
Time for a 12 step program!
Maybe we can get a group rate!!
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Are we focusing too much attention on natalee's disappearance? Useless-knowledge.com thinks so.
http://www.useless-knowledge.com/1234/june/article378.html
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