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« Reply #560 on: June 25, 2005, 08:29:01 PM »

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I did this exercise already and they threatened to give me my own thread to talk to myself.
Aww, come on, RazzleBerry...I suggested, not threatened!  And truly this site would be much duller without you.  I just disagree with things the way you put them.  (And you have gotten no PM's from me!)
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« Reply #561 on: June 25, 2005, 08:29:21 PM »

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Nothing here explains why multiple people lied multiple times.


why razzy, there aren't multiple lies being told, there are just an infinite number of adjustments for all the many myths being told in this nightmare. Laughing  Laughing


Kacky....

I like that! How true LOL
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« Reply #562 on: June 25, 2005, 08:30:02 PM »

GuyWdog[/quote]

Speaking of fact...we do not know if they have or have not confessed....

Lawyer on Fox just refuted what the Minister said earlier...that they would have to have something other than bringing him in for that reason,,Papa
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« Reply #563 on: June 25, 2005, 08:30:04 PM »

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His lawyer Carlo said this on the courthouse steps, Luna. I didn't even know that the guard(s) also said this.


is that why carlo got suspended?
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« Reply #564 on: June 25, 2005, 08:30:17 PM »

The judge isn't coming and they stopped the search before dark, anyone think their might have been some sort of confession?
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« Reply #565 on: June 25, 2005, 08:30:24 PM »

HEADLINE "Geraldo at Large in Aruba"  -everyone scatter and hide
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« Reply #566 on: June 25, 2005, 08:30:29 PM »

>>Ahh ... Then maybe you may want to explain to the world how Joran VDS was in there at sh um 17?

One would think that if one can get a hooker or a doobie (quasi-legally), a fake ID would be a piece of cake. Secondly, he's 17 but 20 feet tall and balding; I'm ~40 with a few gray hairs sneaking out and I get carded all the time--I'm 5'6" is why IMO.
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« Reply #567 on: June 25, 2005, 08:31:10 PM »

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To re-cap events over the past week - A group of 40 Americans came to our restaurant on Sunday evening, the 29th of May. The group entered the restaurant around 11: 30 pm. As always, all individuals were identified as being at least 18 years of age before entering our restaurant.


Ahh ... Then maybe you may want to explain to the world how Joran VDS was in there at sh um 17? And explain why I have seen how many pics of him in that bar?

Geez, some truth may be nice rather than just a CYA statement.


I was thinking the same thing,RED..they keep saying that they always ID, no one under 18 allowed in...But JVDS look like he's a fairly regular patron..and they have no problem with that.....hmmm....[/b]


How do we know that Joran was a regular patron? Did he go once a week or every night? I think I've only seen one set of pictures.

Something else I noticed: a few pages back someone said "From march 2004 until march 2005 he was an 'intern' judge here in the Netherlands."

Considering that, it seems these stories of Joran carousing all the time in the casinos with his dad have to be exaggerations..PVDS was mostly away in NL.
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« Reply #568 on: June 25, 2005, 08:32:07 PM »

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The judge isn't coming and they stopped the search before dark, anyone think their might have been some sort of confession?


The judge isn't coming?  Uuuhhhhhhhhh....
Isn't he scheduled in court at 8am tomorrow?
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« Reply #569 on: June 25, 2005, 08:32:19 PM »

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The ONLY Fact stated by the Arubain Authorities is that the 3 boys changed the L-O-C-A-T-I-O-N as to where they left Natalee. Everything else is Speculation, while I dont have a problem with theorizing, I do have a BIG Problem with Presnting your Theories off as FACTS. They aren't they are what they are RUMORS and INNUENDOS. I feel for all of the FAMILIES involved, both Victims and the Arrested. I could see the Kalpoes Mother's anguish. At this point all they have done is adjust their story 500 METERS, which in my guestimate is 1500 yards as to WHERE they left Natalee. It is not like they said they left her on the other side of the Island. Joran has also adjusted his story, thats it. As FAR as we know. I have seen a lynch mob before and LISTEN people, when you have a lynch mob you will NEVER get to the truth. By the time all the facts come out everything has been so corrupted byt then that non true impartial judge can ever tell exactly what happened. MAYBEJoran did a dastardly deed,Mayeb he didn't I know that if he is guilty then I want him to pay for his crime. And that can ONLYhappen if the TRUTH comes out and is NOT CORRUPTED.
 I am not taking sides, but here in America you are INNOCENT UNTIL proven GUILTY. I Know the rest of the WORLD is watching us AMERICANS, we shoould show the World we are fair minded people, that want the TRUTH to come out, and this TRUTH should be acceptable to everyone not just the LYNCH MOB......not pointing fingers, but everyne please be respectful for the Innocent people that are caught up in this mess. There are plenty of peple that have a stake in this affair, that will get HURt no matter what outcome...thanx...

GuyWdog


I agree and I respect your thoughts of both families
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« Reply #570 on: June 25, 2005, 08:32:38 PM »

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The judge isn't coming and they stopped the search before dark, anyone think their might have been some sort of confession?


The judge isn't coming?  Uuuhhhhhhhhh....
Isn't he scheduled in court at 8am tomorrow?


I must have missed that.  Back to the drawing board.
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« Reply #571 on: June 25, 2005, 08:33:02 PM »

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The judge isn't coming and they stopped the search before dark, anyone think their might have been some sort of confession?


The judge isn't coming?  Uuuhhhhhhhhh....
Isn't he scheduled in court at 8am tomorrow?

Where did you hear this???
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« Reply #572 on: June 25, 2005, 08:33:47 PM »

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I would just like to point something out.  The only real FACT we know is that Natalee is missing.  Anything else is speculation and hearsay given the rules that LE is not supposed to give out info.

Our possibilities are:
1.  She was killed or died accidentally
2.  She was kidnapped and is being held alive somewhere
3.  She ran away and does not want to be found

Personally, I do not believe #3.  We are left to work out different scenerios based on the hearsay we are given.



I personally think that there could be no way that she ran away unless she is in a hut somewhere where there is no tv, radio, civilization, etc...NO ONE unless they suffer from some sort of attatchment disorder , could possibly see their friends and family begging for her return and not come forward..i just dont see that one, IMHO....


I dunno, I just thinking if within 3 hours of arriving in Aruba, and then straight to PVDS house, cusin and accusing Joran then why a meek Poster offer for Nat to return?  
Some MB student said to make it more friendly, I don;t get it...also the first local aired (not national) was also in similar vain had a lot of Arubians somewhat confused and wondering if a personal family thing was going on....Once of course the US media came it was back to reality TV.  

The only thing I can think of is the good nature of the family not thinking something serious happened? I dunno....
http://www.geocities.com/dutch_on_aruba/nhposteraruba.jpg
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« Reply #573 on: June 25, 2005, 08:34:07 PM »

Geraldo is giving a report...
Pass the antacid...
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« Reply #574 on: June 25, 2005, 08:35:05 PM »

Could there be a chance that he is saying anything new and reliable, nancy_drew?
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« Reply #575 on: June 25, 2005, 08:35:07 PM »

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The judge isn't coming and they stopped the search before dark, anyone think their might have been some sort of confession?


No. As far as I know they have not been moved therefore they are not being questioned.
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« Reply #576 on: June 25, 2005, 08:35:29 PM »

Is rudy croes the same guy who also said that they had blood and that they had a confession and were going to the body.
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« Reply #577 on: June 25, 2005, 08:35:56 PM »

I don't know, DT, I make it a point to to listen to Rudy Croes.
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« Reply #578 on: June 25, 2005, 08:36:00 PM »

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"5 km or 3 miles easy run for someone in good shape"

Except all indications from people who know JvdS are that Joran would not be *caught dead* walking anywhere.
 

well he is getting plenty of perp walking now.  but he does that with a certain resigned dignity.  how much is gas on the island?  i have the impression walking is passe in aruba.
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« Reply #579 on: June 25, 2005, 08:36:37 PM »

Interesting bit of information coming from FOX regarding cell phones.  He said that if Text Messaging was done that it is extremely difficult to track it on an international level.  They have the technology to look at the calls and computers but my impression was that the text messaging information would be lost.  Having 3 young adults, I know that many use text messaging to communicate in place of actual calls.  This could definately make it more difficult for the investigators.
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