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« Reply #600 on: June 25, 2005, 08:43:06 PM »

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The judge isn't coming and they stopped the search before dark, anyone think their might have been some sort of confession?


The judge isn't coming?  Uuuhhhhhhhhh....
Isn't he scheduled in court at 8am tomorrow?

Where did you hear this???


I read that the judges plane (from Curacao) had a mechanical problem. They stopped the search because the high winds were throwing the dogs off.


Let's be clear, the judge is scheduled to be in court tomorrow morning at 8am...and yes, all five suspects are expected to be there for questioning.
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« Reply #601 on: June 25, 2005, 08:43:09 PM »

So, nancy_drew is not correct?

Jairo, nancy_drew? Anyone? Buehler?
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« Reply #602 on: June 25, 2005, 08:43:16 PM »

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This Justice Minister sounds like a knucklehead.  He told Geraldo that the dad was brought in to put pressure on the kid...and that there could be a break "momentarily"...but, even Geraldo noted the Minister has used that term before.

Maybe the poor guy doesn't know what that means in English?!?!

Oh brother.


Yeah, another 24 hours. We heard that one 4 weeks ago. Laughing
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« Reply #603 on: June 25, 2005, 08:43:31 PM »

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"Access to a dinghy"? He never said that!


I think Gerlado mentioned the Dingy part not Croes.
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« Reply #604 on: June 25, 2005, 08:43:48 PM »

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Does anyone know if Natalee's cell phone (I assume she had one) was usable on Aruba? (On some islands, some US cells work, some don't and you have to rent one.)


Yes, her cellphone was usable to call back to Alabama, but not usable to call to other friends' cellphones while in Aruba.

This was proven when the chaperone that stayed behind placed a call to her mom in Alabama, using Natalee's cellphone that he got from her Holiday Inn hotel room.
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« Reply #605 on: June 25, 2005, 08:43:52 PM »

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Sandy, I have no idea where they are. I'm a bit surprised that Top isn't giving much coverage to the searchers.

Red, it's BonaireExcel. At least, as far as I know, that's I the only airline that travels between the islands. Unless there is another one. These things change monthly, if not weekly.



So why did he not catch the next flight?  

BonairExel Time Table

1=Mon, 2=Tue, 3=Wed, 4=Thu, 5=Fri, 6=Sat, 7=Sun
Curaçao - Aruba
Days   Departure   Arrival   Flightnr.   Aircraft   More info
1   2   3   4   5   6   7
08:00     08:30      9H2950      ATR 42      
1   2   3   4   5   6   7
13:00     13:30      9H2992      ATR 42      
1   2   3   4   5   6   7
16:00     16:30      9H2994      ATR 42      
1   2   3   4   5   6   7
20:00     20:30      9H2960      ATR 42
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« Reply #606 on: June 25, 2005, 08:43:58 PM »

Jairo - Geraldo just said that the justice minister said that Steve C may have been held because he had access to a dinghy. He (Geraldo) said this as the Fox talking heads were discussing what could have happened to a body.
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« Reply #607 on: June 25, 2005, 08:44:41 PM »

Ok....I have been "disconnected" for the last 3 days....
All I know is that the father is in custody and the hearing has been rescheduled.....anything else??
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« Reply #608 on: June 25, 2005, 08:44:44 PM »

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I agree ie;Pauls involvement.  Plus, they're saying more arrest today &/or tomorrow.  These could be the persons involved in the phone calls, ransom?
Someone from the media, said that when this all comes out it will be completely out of relm that people are speculating.  


well, we're speculating so we could be way off base. Smile



Out of the relm--- like Natalee missing was/is a ploy to flood the island with U S agents and not get the
Prime Minister ?? ( whats he called ? ) bumped off ??
  So, could we start a forum for wild speculations of just what relm/s there could be ?? Wouldnt work. No named SUSPECTS we could crucify and rip to shreds !!
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« Reply #609 on: June 25, 2005, 08:44:49 PM »

The Dutch newsitem that Iquitos posted on page 27 contains some very interesting tidbits:

"According to the police, Joran van der Sloot has changed statements some four or five times now. Police spokesperson Papito Comenencia stated enigmatically: "We're still missing three pieces of the puzzle. If we find one, we'll have the other two as well".
The police is still conducting searches. They've been working together since yesterday with volunteers of EquuSearch from Texas, who have brought sensitive equipment to Aruba. Comenencia: “they're capable people who know what they're doing". The 24 member team includes a number of divers. Previously, the FBI has employed divers too, in vain.
Natalee Holloway's mother isn't surprised by the team's coming to Aruba to help find her daughter: "We've received many offers of assistance, including from diver teams, bounty hunters, all kinds of people who help us search. The more, the better, and the sooner we will find out what happened. It's really about time that we do".
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« Reply #610 on: June 25, 2005, 08:44:51 PM »

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How do we know that Joran was a regular patron? Did he go once a week or every night? I think I've only seen one set of pictures


I have seen more than one set of pics of joran in there and they were not taken the night of the disappearance. Obviously he has no problem getting in C&C's

I have heard from many in Aruba that they do not card especially before 11:30. The idea that C&C would say it is just a CYA. Places like C&C's are obviously a common occurance for many 18 or otherwise. I remember the interview with 2 of Nat's friends on Greta where they said Joran said Sundays were quiet at C&C's that is why they were surprised to see hm there. Hmm, sounds like he knows when its busy or quite. I would say he is there quite often.

When i was 15 and in Aruba they were not carding me. That was before the days of C&C's even existed.
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« Reply #611 on: June 25, 2005, 08:44:51 PM »

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"Access to a dinghy"? He never said that!


I think Gerlado mentioned the Dingy part not Croes.


Geraldo quoted the Justice Minister told him that.
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« Reply #612 on: June 25, 2005, 08:44:56 PM »

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Interesting bit of information coming from FOX regarding cell phones.  He said that if Text Messaging was done that it is extremely difficult to track it on an international level.  They have the technology to look at the calls and computers but my impression was that the text messaging information would be lost.  Having 3 young adults, I know that many use text messaging to communicate in place of actual calls.  This could definately make it more difficult for the investigators.


no offense, but in no way do I believe the technology is not in certain hands to track text message. I would have to see proof of that. Mind you I am not saying you are wrong, I am saying the information is wrong. If they can watch every keystroke, email, im they can trace text messages.
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« Reply #613 on: June 25, 2005, 08:45:14 PM »

iquitos, I'm thinking that there is only the one plane.
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« Reply #614 on: June 25, 2005, 08:46:14 PM »

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Sandy, I have no idea where they are. I'm a bit surprised that Top isn't giving much coverage to the searchers.

Red, it's BonaireExcel. At least, as far as I know, that's I the only airline that travels between the islands. Unless there is another one. These things change monthly, if not weekly.



So why did he not catch the next flight?  

BonairExel Time Table

1=Mon, 2=Tue, 3=Wed, 4=Thu, 5=Fri, 6=Sat, 7=Sun
Curaçao - Aruba
Days   Departure   Arrival   Flightnr.   Aircraft   More info
1   2   3   4   5   6   7
08:00     08:30      9H2950      ATR 42      
1   2   3   4   5   6   7
13:00     13:30      9H2992      ATR 42      
1   2   3   4   5   6   7
16:00     16:30      9H2994      ATR 42      
1   2   3   4   5   6   7
20:00     20:30      9H2960      ATR 42


Just speculating - because the judge might let PVDS off and the plan was to put pressure on Joran. Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #615 on: June 25, 2005, 08:46:18 PM »

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Ok....I have been "disconnected" for the last 3 days....
All I know is that the father is in custody and the hearing has been rescheduled.....anything else??


And the Equine Search group from Houston has arrived and searched some yesterday and most of today, including divers in the water.
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« Reply #616 on: June 25, 2005, 08:47:13 PM »

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Does anyone know if Natalee's cell phone (I assume she had one) was usable on Aruba? (On some islands, some US cells work, some don't and you have to rent one.)

Earlier on we were told that you can't use the US cell for calls on the island, but you could still call the states from Aruba.
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« Reply #617 on: June 25, 2005, 08:47:20 PM »

As I said, Inspector, I'm doubting that there were other planes to fly.
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« Reply #618 on: June 25, 2005, 08:47:35 PM »

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Yep, although I prefer to say death instead of murder, since I've no idea and don't have enough info to figure what happened - I just know she's missing. The pretend kidnapping thought were explain PvS' involvement from the perspective of part of the "cover up".


Oh, yes. Sorry, careless of me. I don't think of it as a murder, either, and totally buy into the accidental death theory.  But I wonder into whose ears the kidnapping theory was first whispered (just assuming and thinking it through) and who decided to run with it if PvS started it?  Would someone then be commissioned to request a ransom, etc?  Just wondering what your theories are as I run back and forth trying to fry chimichangas in 90 degree weather.


Putting a roofie into Natalee's drink and driving past the Holiday Inn against her consent would constitute kidnapping.
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« Reply #619 on: June 25, 2005, 08:47:45 PM »

I guess I did that wrong, I wanted to reply to Rosalie's comment about when this all comes out, it'll be totally different than anyone expected. I agree. All these things everyone is speculating on, I bet they are so far off the wall. I have no idea what it could be, but I am wondering if she did take off on her own and had everyone swear not to tell!
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