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« Reply #340 on: June 26, 2005, 01:12:05 AM »

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If Jug said that, and AvdS is going to be detained, then I guess we know who's running the show.

AvdS wasn't on the island, so she couldn't see/hear anything. And anything that JvdS told her she doesn't have to reveal, so basically, there is no point.


This, I'm sure will not be popular but, my dog wouldn't let Jug in my house with all his vinegar. To me, the way the vdSs' dogs reacted to strangers, told me volumes about them as people who live/brought the dogs up. Barking but tails awagin'.


CancunMole...sort of my point I'll be making...

If you saw the tape with Greta and Beth Holloway/Twitty making that surprise visit to the VDS-household...there was NO BARKING...in fact, there was tail-wagging behaviour by both of the dogs...and I think that voice was Beth HT's voice calling out, initially to the dogs, and then yelling, 'are you home?' to the inhabitants...all the dogs continued to wag their tales...with heads BOWED...


They knew that Beth had authority...there was NO DOUBT.


I think its sad some of you guys are afraid of Jug, a lot of hot air like Trump. I don't really care for that type of attitude, I wouldn't jump down his throat.. That is how they hide their emotions, don't cry or they will think you are weak. Trump says that to everyone.
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« Reply #341 on: June 26, 2005, 01:12:18 AM »

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Well, somebody told Beth Twitty that she were leaving with Joran, or did the Alabama group just go to the van der Sloots because NH and Joran were talking in the casino?


arubagirl, in probably watching way to much FoxNews, I think it was reported that the VDS' were disclosed to the Twittys by a bartender (or other worker) at C&C's.
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« Reply #342 on: June 26, 2005, 01:12:28 AM »

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Oldfart, I'm sorry, I'm not following. Out of his way? what way?

There was a time line post (not usere of source) that was
"6:30 am Call to or from Joranís cellphone in area of Santa Lucia"
Just wondering where that was?
thnks


this info came out awhile ago, but could be inaccurate. Can't remember now how it got out to the press. One of the lawyers? family? can't remember.
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« Reply #343 on: June 26, 2005, 01:12:50 AM »

Maybe if someone in LE would give Joran a "shocker" (the hand gesture in all the tickle.com pictures) he might start talkin!  Or at least squirmin and squealin
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« Reply #344 on: June 26, 2005, 01:13:17 AM »

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You know if you discount all of the lies, retractions, disagreeing statements, and things never released in the investigation, you have a very simple answer to all this.


Which is?


Boy meets girl, girl meets boy (not to mince words)
Girl with friends sees boy again, friends leave
Girl leaves with boy (no assumtions)
Girl and boy get in vechicle
Vechicle drives off into the night.
Boy alive and well, as well as 2 others in the car (remember no statements are any good.)

Girl is missing and no one can tell us, how, why, when where. You have one thing left guilt.

Without statements for or against where does the guilt logically fall.


Absoulutely, absolut! In a nutshell, thats exactly what we've got and where we are!  The only questions after that are really who did how much bad and who did more or less in a crime!

 Well put!
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« Reply #345 on: June 26, 2005, 01:13:25 AM »

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Oldfart, I'm sorry, I'm not following. Out of his way? what way?

There was a time line post (not usere of source) that was
"6:30 am Call to or from Joranís cellphone in area of Santa Lucia"
Just wondering where that was?
thnks



Here's a map of Aruba that has sites of interests marked. marked.http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Images-Fun/map3.pdf
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« Reply #346 on: June 26, 2005, 01:14:23 AM »

Thanks, Ladyhawke. If that's the case then that would also imply that Joran was a regular C&C customer.
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« Reply #347 on: June 26, 2005, 01:14:27 AM »

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Well, somebody told Beth Twitty that she were leaving with Joran, or did the Alabama group just go to the van der Sloots because NH and Joran were talking in the casino?


They did also go the CnCs. But I'm also sure they were on the phone with friends and relatives back in Mountain Brook who had by then talked to some of the students/her cousins/close friends.
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« Reply #348 on: June 26, 2005, 01:15:41 AM »

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Well, somebody told Beth Twitty that she were leaving with Joran, or did the Alabama group just go to the van der Sloots because NH and Joran were talking in the casino?


arubagirl, in probably watching way to much FoxNews, I think it was repoted that the VDS' were disclosed to the Twittys by a bartender (or other worker) at C&C's.


Beth Twitty said she picked out Joran from hotel security tapes.
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« Reply #349 on: June 26, 2005, 01:16:20 AM »

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Oldfart, I'm sorry, I'm not following. Out of his way? what way?

There was a time line post (not usere of source) that was
"6:30 am Call to or from Joranís cellphone in area of Santa Lucia"
Just wondering where that was?
thnks



Here's a map of Aruba that has sites of interests marked. marked.http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Images-Fun/map3.pdf


Sobelle,
thank you
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« Reply #350 on: June 26, 2005, 01:18:33 AM »

the very first post on this topic at visitaruba.com bb stated she left with a drug dealer, it was by a mother from the group, they knew on the 31st that she left with someone that they were concerned about. the topic thread was HELP. How to contact police!
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« Reply #351 on: June 26, 2005, 01:18:40 AM »

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...watching the performance start about 8pm and waking up in my bad about 7am - with no knowledge of how I got there - or why I wasn't in my normal nightgown...My husband says that I responded almost coherently to conversation, but I have no memory of doing so. At the end of the performance - he walked me to the car - again an act I do not remember.  He told me later that at one point I said, "I am so glad I'm with you." Again, no memory...Anyway  - based on what my husband told me, I was able to walk whilst drugged - so if this happened to Natalee, she might not have needed to be carried.

Considering the theory Natalee was drugged, if she had a reaction similar to yours, she could have been under the influence of it as she was leaving the bar and her friends would not have noticed anything amiss in her behavior.  It could be she was already under the influence of a drug like that when she got in the car with Joran.

Thats hittin the nail on the head, Pug"!

HEY, TT!  I've missed you lately.  Guess we've been on at different times.  Very Happy


Hey puggy'!  Thanks fer dat!  I been in an out, mostly out!  Seems the more I'm away the more the discussion seems to digress!  I been spendin time wiff women, but Im here ta tellya, EVER ONE OF EM GOT BACK SAFE! KwnowwhutImean?
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« Reply #352 on: June 26, 2005, 01:18:46 AM »

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You know if you discount all of the lies, retractions, disagreeing statements, and things never released in the investigation, you have a very simple answer to all this.


Which is?


Boy meets girl, girl meets boy (not to mince words)
Girl with friends sees boy again, friends leave
Girl leaves with boy (no assumtions)
Girl and boy get in vechicle
Vechicle drives off into the night.
Boy alive and well, as well as 2 others in the car (remember no statements are any good.)

Girl is missing and no one can tell us, how, why, when where. You have one thing left guilt.

Without statements for or against where does the guilt logically fall.


Absoulutely, absolut! In a nutshell, thats exactly what we've got and where we are!  The only questions after that are really who did how much bad and who did more or less is a crime!

 Well put!


And that's exactly why the Kalpoes would change the story to cover for Joran. They all know he's gonna get the blame. Its just like the security guard that found the bomb at the olympics, he was blamed for planting it.
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« Reply #353 on: June 26, 2005, 01:18:58 AM »

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Does anyone know when Joran's birthday is?

My understanding is that no one has yet been formally arraigned.

If Joran were to turn 18 before he is charged with murder, could he then be tried as an adult?



Think I've heard he's a Leo...that'd be ...how knows...it has august in it...give you a clue?
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« Reply #354 on: June 26, 2005, 01:19:02 AM »

Night all, try and behave, the monkey always knows.
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« Reply #355 on: June 26, 2005, 01:19:14 AM »

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They did also go the CnCs. But I'm also sure they were on the phone with friends and relatives back in Mountain Brook who had by then talked to some of the students/her cousins/close friends.
That makes perfect sense.  I know you've all seen Marcia Twitty on tv (Jug's brother's wife and the twin boys' mom).  All Beth had to do was talk to Marcia - I am sure she's perfectly capable of getting information from those on the trip and passing it on to Beth.  There you have it - Beth didn't really NEED to talk to the kids, Marcia, Thomas and Hunter could have taken care of that for her.
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« Reply #356 on: June 26, 2005, 01:19:28 AM »

absolut I would really like to hear more about your expectation for midnight that didn't happen - you had some info on the search which sounded interesting?

(that said, I need to head to bed - just saw the time and I have  to drive my dtr to work at 7AM tomorrow so I can have the car ...argh!) I'll catch up in the morning.

g'nite all ... and DT - thanks for the discussion - I appreciate the exchange.
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« Reply #357 on: June 26, 2005, 01:19:48 AM »

Whitney, per another poster he can be tried as an adult.

And with that I'm going to bed.

Good night all.
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« Reply #358 on: June 26, 2005, 01:20:02 AM »

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I'm sure Beth Twitty has spoken with kids on the trip.  The article in the July 4 issue of People magazine mentions that Jug spoke with Natalee's cousins Thomas and Hunter Twitty who were on the trip and learned that Thomas has played poker with Joran that same night.


Really, and who won?


Don't know


Don't you wonder? Did someone get their arse beat? Who was involved in the "scuffle"? Where was the "scuffle"? What was the "scuffle" about? We're talking peoples lives here, too many questions for this mother. If it were my kid being blamed, I'd be asking questions.
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« Reply #359 on: June 26, 2005, 01:20:10 AM »

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Thanks, Ladyhawke. If that's the case then that would also imply that Joran was a regular C&C customer.


It sure would imply that. And to my mind, if you were about to commit a premeditated crime, you probably wouldn't begin at a place that knows you as a regular.
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