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« Reply #360 on: June 26, 2005, 01:20:41 AM »

Have I missed any rumors, breaking news, etc.................
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« Reply #361 on: June 26, 2005, 01:21:28 AM »

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Well, somebody told Beth Twitty that she were leaving with Joran, or did the Alabama group just go to the van der Sloots because NH and Joran were talking in the casino?


Aruba, Im sprised you hafta ask.  She was seen walkin out with Urine!  In a sec she wuz gone!  Beth et als asked questerns and got a name then bartender said "ask cabi" to find out where Urine lived so there they went!

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« Reply #362 on: June 26, 2005, 01:21:29 AM »

Jorans official Bday August 6. 86. according to a cache of a sports roster for school it's June 8th,..take your pic
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« Reply #363 on: June 26, 2005, 01:21:49 AM »

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I am shorter and weigh less than Nat, but I tell you what, after 5 vodka drinks they'd be carrying me to a cab.


And the fact that they weren't carrying her shows she didn't drink 5 vodkas.


 that would depend on several factors, including her prior drinking habits, what she had in her stomach, etc. we all know them
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« Reply #364 on: June 26, 2005, 01:22:43 AM »

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Night all, try and behave, the monkey always knows.


Good night, Absolut
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« Reply #365 on: June 26, 2005, 01:24:04 AM »

Hi Shell....you knew about the hearing being delayed right?
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« Reply #366 on: June 26, 2005, 01:24:22 AM »

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Have I missed any rumors, breaking news, etc.................
 no news, hearing postponed until tomorrow 8 am.  geraldo was on with little new.  Mr. Twitty thinks Anita should be questioned as a witness.
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« Reply #367 on: June 26, 2005, 01:25:33 AM »

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>>Hi, LUNA. As you can see, I'm Puggywug. I post this alot when there are questions about Natalee getting in the car. Here is a quote from Dash's mom who also posts here:

"My daughter spoke with Natalee right after C&C's closed. My daughter & her friends came across Nat & Joran as all were exiting the club, and all were walking more or less together toward another group of classmates...

Natalee was walking unassisted (not falling down drunk), spoke ok (though not answering in long sentences), and was not touching Joran.

Nat assured them that she was fine, and said she was going to go back to the hotel "with THEM," pointing to the MBHS group just a few yards ahead. The Kalpoes were nowhere in sight; neither was the car.

Next {woman’s daughter} heard was that Natalee got into a car that many in the group had thought was a taxi. (Those look like regular cars.) It may be that the Kalpoes pulled up on the street before Natalee reached the next group; Joran may have deliberately stalled her. The group may not have even realized she was behind them, approaching.

But while we hear that she got in the car willingly, we know from her comments that it was not her pre-planned intention. Because of this, I do not believe she knew she would be going anywhere but a fairly short distance down to the hotel. Her plans changed in the blink of an eye, and she was gone . . .“
 
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/viewtopic.php?t=303&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=400<<

Well, I really can't help how odd anybody finds this but it has been explained over and over and even on this forum.  And NH has been called some very vile names by the Joren fan club because she got into this car but the poster just a few pages back stated that under the influence of a date rape drug that she walked/talked fairly normally.  While some may not like this version, it is the closest thing we have to what actually happened, an eyewitness account from somebody who spoke to her just an instant before they were loading into the car.

Sure looks like to me she did not even intend to go with Joren.  And there was a link yesterday to an article on the Dark Side about the practice called carving out where males surround the female victim to separate her from her group which it seems is sadly a common practice in the region.  Block her from their view and they from hers and just sort of jostle her along to the waiting car or whatever.

I can't believe everybody missed this post.  And I sometimes wonder why the same questions are asked over and over and over, even on the same day.  Sure, we all miss a bunch of posts but it just seems so odd to come here day after day and the same questions being asked yet again.  Sometimes by the same people.

What's up with that? Question


What's up with that? This account is being posted on a message board rather than the news. I know the kids said they believed Nat was leaving with the next group, but we have no idea if Nat thought she was getting into a cab. This is why we need more eyewitness statements from the kids who were on the trip. But, aside from the few who have come foward on O'Reilly and Van Susteran, we have nothing else to go on. If the students (or parents of students) want to tell their story, then why not speak to the media? Why would this mother tell her story to Scared Monkey's and not CNN, FOX or any other news org. ??
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« Reply #368 on: June 26, 2005, 01:25:47 AM »

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Have I missed any rumors, breaking news, etc.................
 no news, hearing postponed until tomorrow 8 am.  geraldo was on with little new.  Mr. Twitty thinks Anita should be questioned as a witness.


I know you probably commented and I missed it but do you think Mrs VDS should be questioned, Iquitos?
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« Reply #369 on: June 26, 2005, 01:25:57 AM »

Hugs Kerin!!!!!!!!!  Yeah I was glued to the tv at 3.  I hope I can wait up at 8.  Anita?  Why?
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« Reply #370 on: June 26, 2005, 01:26:15 AM »

ok, its late and I am just gonna be a dumba** and ask this b/c sometimes ya'lls abbreviations throw me off..justtrying to catch up here with the posts..what is an MSM? <hanging head in embarrassment because i know it will be obvious when i hear it>
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« Reply #371 on: June 26, 2005, 01:26:36 AM »

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And to my mind, if you were about to commit a premeditated crime, you probably wouldn't begin at a place that knows you as a regular.


Why not?  The premeditated crime would be the rape of an American girl on her last night in Aruba; certainly not someone who'd be a regular CnC's customer.
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« Reply #372 on: June 26, 2005, 01:26:55 AM »

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KwnowwhutImean?

I wouldn't have doubted that!  Wink
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« Reply #373 on: June 26, 2005, 01:27:58 AM »

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I am convinced that the "young adults", not "kids" who have appeared on National TV have a prepared "script". Therefore, therefore there should be the number of inconsistnecises we heard.


Apparently you haven't met our little Dash.

No scripts, Cancun. You're reaching here.


What many of you may not be understanding is that the AL teens that went on TV did not have scripts. Actually just the opposite that I would defer to arlee to explain if she wishes. It has been researched and backed up by calls that I have made.

Maybe the teens that everyone wants to hear from would go on the MSM shows if they were treated with respect and told the truth. These teens committed no crime yet they are sometimes given a harder time than they actual suspects in this case.

Do not confuse nervousness and bewilderment with inconsistencies.
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« Reply #374 on: June 26, 2005, 01:28:08 AM »

Was anyone ever able to come up with any good thoughts/ideas about what some/all of the 3 missing pieces of puzzle might be, as stated byaruban authorties?
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« Reply #375 on: June 26, 2005, 01:29:30 AM »

sorry Shell..disregard that PM
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« Reply #376 on: June 26, 2005, 01:29:30 AM »

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ok, its late and I am just gonna be a dumba** and ask this b/c sometimes ya'lls abbreviations throw me off..justtrying to catch up here with the posts..what is an MSM? <hanging head in embarrassment because i know it will be obvious when i hear it>


I just recently read what MSM cause I was in the dark too about the term...Main Stream Media
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« Reply #377 on: June 26, 2005, 01:29:47 AM »

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Jorans official Bday August 6. 86. according to a cache of a sports roster for school it's June 8th,..take your pic


That can't be right.  If he was born August 6, 1986, that would make him 18 going on 19.
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« Reply #378 on: June 26, 2005, 01:29:51 AM »

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>>Hi, LUNA. As you can see, I'm Puggywug. I post this alot when there are questions about Natalee getting in the car. Here is a quote from Dash's mom who also posts here:

"My daughter spoke with Natalee right after C&C's closed. My daughter & her friends came across Nat & Joran as all were exiting the club, and all were walking more or less together toward another group of classmates...

Natalee was walking unassisted (not falling down drunk), spoke ok (though not answering in long sentences), and was not touching Joran.

Nat assured them that she was fine, and said she was going to go back to the hotel "with THEM," pointing to the MBHS group just a few yards ahead. The Kalpoes were nowhere in sight; neither was the car.

Next {woman’s daughter} heard was that Natalee got into a car that many in the group had thought was a taxi. (Those look like regular cars.) It may be that the Kalpoes pulled up on the street before Natalee reached the next group; Joran may have deliberately stalled her. The group may not have even realized she was behind them, approaching.

But while we hear that she got in the car willingly, we know from her comments that it was not her pre-planned intention. Because of this, I do not believe she knew she would be going anywhere but a fairly short distance down to the hotel. Her plans changed in the blink of an eye, and she was gone . . .“
 
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/viewtopic.php?t=303&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=400<<

Well, I really can't help how odd anybody finds this but it has been explained over and over and even on this forum.  And NH has been called some very vile names by the Joren fan club because she got into this car but the poster just a few pages back stated that under the influence of a date rape drug that she walked/talked fairly normally.  While some may not like this version, it is the closest thing we have to what actually happened, an eyewitness account from somebody who spoke to her just an instant before they were loading into the car.

Sure looks like to me she did not even intend to go with Joren.  And there was a link yesterday to an article on the Dark Side about the practice called carving out where males surround the female victim to separate her from her group which it seems is sadly a common practice in the region.  Block her from their view and they from hers and just sort of jostle her along to the waiting car or whatever.

I can't believe everybody missed this post.  And I sometimes wonder why the same questions are asked over and over and over, even on the same day.  Sure, we all miss a bunch of posts but it just seems so odd to come here day after day and the same questions being asked yet again.  Sometimes by the same people.

What's up with that? Question


What's up with that? This account is being posted on a message board rather than the news. I know the kids said they believed Nat was leaving with the next group, but we have no idea if Nat thought she was getting into a cab. This is why we need more eyewitness statements from the kids who were on the trip. But, aside from the few who have come foward on O'Reilly and Van Susteran, we have nothing else to go on. If the students (or parents of students) want to tell their story, then why not speak to the media? Why would this mother tell her story to Scared Monkey's and not CNN, FOX or any other news org. ??


Because the media might spin their story, whereas they could tell their own story exactly as they want it to be heard on the internet w/o the risk of people taking what they say the wrong way.
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« Reply #379 on: June 26, 2005, 01:31:10 AM »

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Daniel, for real? Wow, didn't know that.

Kipster, urm, it's a backyard. To take a picture I would have to go the back of the house. I'm pretty sure that the walls are high, and my camera can't take pictures through walls, so that's not going to happen. If you have/watch the film clips...the dogs are happy!
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