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« Reply #560 on: June 26, 2005, 03:05:58 AM »

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Wow.  I'm almost take offense that you would take offense at my comment!  

Why wouldn't the MB students use the MSM to get their story out? How do you know that the MSM uses SLEAZY rules?? I enjoy this website, but in all honesty, it IS a website. I'm not trying to be confrontational, but are you suggesting that this website is the end all of all news?? We have the MSM giving every account of the suspects, yet there is no word on Natalee's friend's statements in the MSM. Sorry you're so offended by my question. Geez!


Actually its a blog not a website. I understand you enjoy it, I hope so because you are here.

Columbo, how do I know the MSM uses sleazy rules? You would ask a blogger such a question. Wow. Other than they fact that most every MB parent would back me on this , they do. I know you think this is like some insignificant blog and compared to the MSM it is. However, do you know how many MSM producers have contatced us on this story? Too many. Some have been better than others. Every network including multiple ones for different shows on each network. I am not at liberty to say names as I promised them.

Please think about the question you asked because you actually answer yourself. Why wouldn't the MB teens go on the shows? Why have there been so few? Maybe (I think I would know) that they are being treated poorly. It as been referenced many times prior to tonight.


Red,

I don't think this is an insignificant blog at all. I apologize if my comment portrayed it as such. And I apologize to you.....I understand where you're coming from. I just think the kids could help, not hurt the investigation by getting their story out. I cannot understand why/how the MSM would possibly treat these kids poorly as they are trying to get the story as well. .....that just doesn't make sense at all. But, that's just my opinion. I was just trying to make a timeline for Natalee to compare with the other side of the story.....sorry if I stepped on ya'll's toes. If the Admin. of this blog takes offense to the posts made, maybe I'm just in the wrong place.
Good luck Monkey's!!

Columbo.......out!
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« Reply #561 on: June 26, 2005, 03:06:37 AM »

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Thanks!  I have always had pugs, and I adore them.  My current "furbaby" is eleven and a half!

OK, I really am signing off and hitting the hay this time.

Pug kisses to all the Monkeys!  Very Happy
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« Reply #562 on: June 26, 2005, 03:09:44 AM »

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I am convinced that the "young adults", not "kids" who have appeared on National TV have a prepared "script". Therefore, therefore there should be the number of inconsistnecises we heard.


Apparently you haven't met our little Dash.

No scripts, Cancun. You're reaching here.


What many of you may not be understanding is that the AL teens that went on TV did not have scripts. Actually just the opposite that I would defer to arlee to explain if she wishes. It has been researched and backed up by calls that I have made.

Maybe the teens that everyone wants to hear from would go on the MSM shows if they were treated with respect and told the truth. These teens committed no crime yet they are sometimes given a harder time than they actual suspects in this case.

Do not confuse nervousness and bewilderment with inconsistencies.


Delayed reaction; Right. Not only have I listened to Dash/Alana  (see my previous comments on ED) put I've watched the frantic postings of her mother, first as arbeej and now as arlee. I this a frantic mmother attempting recognition for her daughter? I don't know about the rest of you, but having tutored someone inCalculsuor anyhting else, never made me someoon's "closee friend". you?


When did she say tutoring her in calculus made her a close friend?  I think it was just an example of how good a person Natalee was and how good of a friend she was. But hey don't let that stop you from using it to attack MB'ers.
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« Reply #563 on: June 26, 2005, 03:09:50 AM »

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I'm saying that there is NO evidence in this case. The Aruban police should be looking for evidence, and not arresting someone's father to try to force a confession out of someone...

Well said, Inspector!


Yes well said.  You certainly know for sure that their is no evidence in this case given that the police force has been completely silent in regards to evidence and leads, and I'm happy to see that Sobelle can recoqnize this as well.

Well, well said Dt!  Your sourchasm is underwhelmin!  Sotaspeak!
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« Reply #564 on: June 26, 2005, 03:09:58 AM »

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Why wouldn't the MB students use the MSM to get their story out? How do you know that the MSM uses SLEAZY rules?? I enjoy this website, but in all honesty, it IS a website. I'm not trying to be confrontational, but are you suggesting that this website is the end all of all news?? We have the MSM giving every account of the suspects, yet there is no word on Natalee's friend's statements in the MSM. Sorry you're so offended by my question. Geez!


No, the problem is that the MSM IS interviewing the students, and that the students are being intimidated and steered by the MSM into giving contradictory versions of the events. A student who was IN C&C'S THAT NIGHT posts on here and has given us a clear picture of what happened, then goes on MSM and is 100% candid and trustworthy just like she is here. Then she is given the run-around by producers in the MSM.

Another student appears in MSM and says things differently from what the first student does and her version appears to match things the SUSPECTS were saying. That's kind of scary, you know?
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« Reply #565 on: June 26, 2005, 03:10:57 AM »

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Delayed reaction; Right. Not only have I listened to Dash (see my previous comments on ED) put I've watched the frantic postings of her mother, first as arbeej and now as arlee. I this a frantic mmother attempting recognition for her daughter? I don't know about the rest of you, but having tutored someone inCalculsuor anyhting else, never made me someoon's "closee friend". you?

To my recollection, Dash never claimed to be close friends with Natalee.
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« Reply #566 on: June 26, 2005, 03:12:11 AM »

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...writenow...so it is a rather desultory recollection from those who "came back from Aruba...on the trip that Natalee 'didn't make'...it's ...ummm...very different..wouldn't you say?


I don't think it's all that random. They've all talked to the FBI. And the FBI has shared that with Aruban LE. I'm sure the account has very concise, precise information. And I think it comes out well depending on the particular journalist asking the questions. Some journalists don't know how to do a good interview. Some are better than others. But really, short of the MSM and forums such as this, besides personally knowing someone from Mountain Brook, how would any of us know what happened?

And I'm not sure what you mean about the trip Natalee DIDN'T make. HUH? What do you mean?
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« Reply #567 on: June 26, 2005, 03:14:20 AM »

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I am convinced that the "young adults", not "kids" who have appeared on National TV have a prepared "script". Therefore, therefore there should be the number of inconsistnecises we heard.


Apparently you haven't met our little Dash.

No scripts, Cancun. You're reaching here.


What many of you may not be understanding is that the AL teens that went on TV did not have scripts. Actually just the opposite that I would defer to arlee to explain if she wishes. It has been researched and backed up by calls that I have made.

Maybe the teens that everyone wants to hear from would go on the MSM shows if they were treated with respect and told the truth. These teens committed no crime yet they are sometimes given a harder time than they actual suspects in this case.

Do not confuse nervousness and bewilderment with inconsistencies.


Delayed reaction; Right. Not only have I listened to Dash/Alana  (see my previous comments on ED) put I've watched the frantic postings of her mother, first as arbeej and now as arlee. I this a frantic mmother attempting recognition for her daughter? I don't know about the rest of you, but having tutored someone inCalculsuor anyhting else, never made me someoon's "closee friend". you?


...my take?  I know none of these peeps...You more than I...

If you recommend this...then I'll look to the CancunMole... (so tell me CancunMole)...

Whitney
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« Reply #568 on: June 26, 2005, 03:14:42 AM »

Hi, All;
Any updates from EquaSearch?
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« Reply #569 on: June 26, 2005, 03:16:43 AM »

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Hi, All;
Any updates from EquaSearch?

Nothing so far, Paula Sad
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« Reply #570 on: June 26, 2005, 03:16:58 AM »

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I am convinced that the "young adults", not "kids" who have appeared on National TV have a prepared "script". Therefore, therefore there should be the number of inconsistnecises we heard.


Apparently you haven't met our little Dash.

No scripts, Cancun. You're reaching here.


What many of you may not be understanding is that the AL teens that went on TV did not have scripts. Actually just the opposite that I would defer to arlee to explain if she wishes. It has been researched and backed up by calls that I have made.

Maybe the teens that everyone wants to hear from would go on the MSM shows if they were treated with respect and told the truth. These teens committed no crime yet they are sometimes given a harder time than they actual suspects in this case.

Do not confuse nervousness and bewilderment with inconsistencies.


SORRY RED, I don''t believe that! I BELIEVE THAT ALL OF THEM WHO WERE ON THIS TRIP WERE IN FACT GIVEN A SCRIPT TO FOLLOW.

LOL! ROFLMAO!  cancun?????  SEEK TREATMENT!  NOW!


You mean a script like that possibly bogus or not email supposedly from Deepak?  Now THERE was a script.  Only thing, his mother must not have gotten her copy.  She said Natalee did not speak one word to the boys, not one word and he said in that she said all kinds of ridiculous things.

So if they all say the same thing, it has to be a script instead of the truth?  All 140 of them?  I would thin some would tell if that happened.  A group that large could never keep any kind of secret.  That makes no sense for just like Deepak's mom, somebody would not get their copy or would not keep it straight.  But there are plenty of articles in newspapers quoting various kids.  What normal kid would spent their vacation monitoring Natalee, looking for aberant behavior, anyway?  Yes, girls talk but not when there is nothing to tell.  Joren was not in the same league as these kids and back home, would not have been anybody that I think NH would have wanted to even be seen with let alone have some torrid affair.

There is a good post previously on "carving out" which is the term the locals use in that region for separating a vulnerable female from her group by just sort of jostling her away from them into a car while in a crowd.  

But I don't see what your child-rearing practices have to do with any of this and do not follow your line of thought at all.  Who is blaming a country for something that can't be fixed?  Nothing is going to bring her back but should not others be given the warning?  18 is still considered a minor in this country, thus kids, they cannot vote or drink legally here at that age.  We even have many counties in this state that are called dry because alcohol is not sold but you can have it in your home, just have to buy it elsewhere but what does that have to do with anything?  These KIDS are as well reared as any anywhere.  Are you implyin that her disappearance has to do with her upbringing?  I surely hope not.
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« Reply #571 on: June 26, 2005, 03:17:40 AM »

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Hi, All;
Any updates from EquaSearch?

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« Reply #572 on: June 26, 2005, 03:18:59 AM »

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Delayed reaction; Right. Not only have I listened to Dash/Alana  (see my previous comments on ED) put I've watched the frantic postings of her mother, first as arbeej and now as arlee. I this a frantic mmother attempting recognition for her daughter? I don't know about the rest of you, but having tutored someone inCalculsuor anyhting else, never made me someoon's "closee friend". you?


Well, Dash certainly knows Natalee a heck of a lot better than you do, but you've managed to take pot shots at both of them. So are you friends or family of those sitting in jail now? Is that your agenda? Just trying to get your friends out of jail? Fully believe in their innocence in spite of the fact that they keep changing their stories and a person is missing? And lets not forget how they didn't particularly mind fingering two guards to take the rap for them. Upstanding citizens!
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« Reply #573 on: June 26, 2005, 03:19:45 AM »

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Hi, All;
Any updates from EquaSearch?


the winds don't allow cadavar dogs to do their thing...that's all I know...

what a drepressing thought...my reportage is: "the winds don't allow cadavar dogs to do their thing."

And, she's/he's such a...well, you see!
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« Reply #574 on: June 26, 2005, 03:22:15 AM »

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Off Topic:  Your little pug is cute.

Thanks!  I have always had pugs, and I adore them.  My current "furbaby" is eleven and a half!

OK, I really am signing off and hitting the hay this time.

Pug kisses to all the Monkeys!  :D


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« Reply #575 on: June 26, 2005, 03:22:45 AM »

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Are you implyin that her disappearance has to do with her upbringing?  I surely hope not.

Thanks for saying that more eloquently than I would have, Anna.

It's been my feeling all along, that all these attacks on NH and her family, just detract from finding out the truth. Unless you adhere to the theory that she's run away, which is as far fetched as drug lords snatching her up from the beach for trading her as a sex slave.

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« Reply #576 on: June 26, 2005, 03:22:58 AM »

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Hi, All;
Any updates from EquaSearch?


the winds don't allow cadavar dogs to do their thing...that's all I know...

what a drepressing thought...my reportage is: "the winds don't allow cadavar dogs to do their thing."

And, she's/he's such a...well, you see!


Oh. I thought they could find people alive too. Sorry, didn't mean to make you have to think about that.
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« Reply #577 on: June 26, 2005, 03:25:23 AM »

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I happen to have a 17 yr old daughter that graduated this year. Personally, I would not have allowed her to go on a trip like this. Heck, I wouldn't allow her to go to Galveston after Prom like many of the seniors did. So, although Natalee seems to be by all accounts much like my daughter...I know girls talk! They talk about boys, who was with who, what they were wearing, etc. So, while I have the greatest of compassion and sympathy for the MB group.......I know teenagers. The things they did, saw and discussed could answer alot of unanswered questions.
Respectfully,

Another teens mom
sunmoonstarsgosh I hear you...may I suggest you vote Republican in the next general election and just ask yourself: do you want GERALDO or someone like Barbara Boxer speaking for you?...

Me neither...I've barely been able to read this paragraph and type this HTML...I came up under the Johnson administration's give anyone of color a job or a student placement.  LOL...and now I'm a doctor...not sayin' I got "mine"...[/b]


Uh, sunmoonstars,the questeurns you refer to could only provide the answers which they already have! (which basically establish who NAt was last seen with).  Persisting in this line of inquiry only shows a "can't let it go" attitude as to DIGGING UP SOME DIRT on the innocent victem!  SOTASPEAK!
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« Reply #578 on: June 26, 2005, 03:25:54 AM »

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Delayed reaction; Right. Not only have I listened to Dash/Alana  (see my previous comments on ED) put I've watched the frantic postings of her mother, first as arbeej and now as arlee. I this a frantic mmother attempting recognition for her daughter? I don't know about the rest of you, but having tutored someone inCalculsuor anyhting else, never made me someoon's "closee friend". you?


Well, Dash certainly knows Natalee a heck of a lot better than you do, but you've managed to take pot shots at both of them. So are you friends or family of those sitting in jail now? Is that your agenda? Just trying to get your friends out of jail? Fully believe in their innocence in spite of the fact that they keep changing their stories and a person is missing? And lets not forget how they didn't particularly mind fingering two guards to take the rap for them. Upstanding citizens!


writenow:...I hesitated, but then it was clear:  look, all of this is FLUX;  if we get a beach-comber tomorrow with DNA all over his body and pulls up the woman/Natalee...; writenow, we really don't know beyond any sort of reasonable doubt that Natalee, or anyone else, is the subject of this inquery.  I know you know this.
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« Reply #579 on: June 26, 2005, 03:26:38 AM »

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Mike--you do have a way with words! [admiringly] Rolling Eyes

Well, thankyaverymuch!  I resmble that remark! Sotaspeak! Wink
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