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« Reply #700 on: June 26, 2005, 08:39:54 AM »

Did they actually say that NH was present and saw the "scuffle"? It could be the a flip comment was made about NH by JVDS that the cousin overheard and took offense to.
just my thoughts, as a southern gal.
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« Reply #701 on: June 26, 2005, 08:42:28 AM »

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on FOX in side of Jail. No bed. Just a potty and the  cement floor.


did you see that shower?  eweeeee... Looked like a trickle of water.

And  Dirty.**Lawyer   said there were Rats & Bugs I belive Him NOW..
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« Reply #702 on: June 26, 2005, 08:43:14 AM »

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Did they actually say that NH was present and saw the "scuffle"? It could be the a flip comment was made about NH by JVDS that the cousin overheard and took offense to.
just my thoughts, as a southern gal.

As a southerner myself (transplant but been here for 8 yrs lol), I would agree with your comment. It also could have been they were told to look out for her while there. Maybe they percieved him as arrogant as well, and just got into a bit of a match bc they didnt like him.
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« Reply #703 on: June 26, 2005, 08:44:04 AM »

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on FOX in side of Jail. No bed. Just a potty and the  cement floor.


did you see that shower?  eweeeee... Looked like a trickle of water.

And  Dirty.**Lawyer   said there were Rats & Bugs I belive Him NOW..


makes you appreciate our jails doesnt it lol
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« Reply #704 on: June 26, 2005, 08:45:57 AM »

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on FOX in side of Jail. No bed. Just a potty and the  cement floor.


did you see that shower?  eweeeee... Looked like a trickle of water.

And  Dirty.**Lawyer   said there were Rats & Bugs I belive Him NOW..


makes you appreciate our jails doesnt it lol


I been on tours in some of our prisons here..and even Juvn detetention center.. I have never seen anything like that.!!
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« Reply #705 on: June 26, 2005, 08:47:17 AM »

Hi all g`morning Very Happy
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« Reply #706 on: June 26, 2005, 08:47:51 AM »

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Morning Hannie!  Very Happy
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« Reply #707 on: June 26, 2005, 08:51:13 AM »

I know I am perceived as the big fox fan, but let me tell you I hate the morning show more than I hate geraldo or Jamie Colby's stuff.
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« Reply #708 on: June 26, 2005, 08:51:38 AM »

Here is the blog from riehlworldview.com:

Regarding the Mountain Brook High students ...

It would appear that there were people watching out for Natalee.

Natalee's cousins Thomas and Hunter (twins) ... were on the Aruba trip. Thomas played poker with Joran on Sunday afternoon in the casino. Thomas was also instrumental in identifying Joran to Jug and Beth.

Also it is reported that the fight with Joran that occurred at Carlos'N Charlie's on the night that Natalee disappeared also involved Thomas.

It was apparently broken up by Carlos'N Charlie's security. Some say that if the fight had not been broken up, there might have been a much different outcome. Thomas is said to be quite an athlete.

At the time, other friends of hers expressed concern too, but were apparently appeased when Natalee waved to them.

Sean McVea (Natalee's ex-boyfriend) was also on the Aruba trip. He was with Natalee earlier in the day and has an ironic quote attributed to him. "We were all hanging out on the beach. She was laughing and looking so beautiful. She looked up into the blue sky and said how lucky we all were."


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« Reply #709 on: June 26, 2005, 08:52:46 AM »

I heard Croes say this last night to Geraldo on Fox. This was quoted from FoxNews.com today:

In an anecdote that illustrated the insular world of Aruba, Justice Minister Croes said Paul van der Sloot had recently visited him in his office after failing to become a judge, apparently seeking a position in Croes' department.[/b]

Does anyone else think it strange that they are saying that PVDS was basically unemployed? Was this one reason his business computer was confiscated?

Sorry... waking up and having my coffee.
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« Reply #710 on: June 26, 2005, 08:52:58 AM »

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Wow.. on FOx they said at the benefit yesterday in MB Alabama...they raised $25,000 in just 3 hours.. that is awesome!!!!!


I don't know if $25,000 is going to be enough.
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« Reply #711 on: June 26, 2005, 08:54:45 AM »

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Here is the blog from riehlworldview.com:

Regarding the Mountain Brook High students ...

It would appear that there were people watching out for Natalee.

Natalee's cousins Thomas and Hunter (twins) ... were on the Aruba trip. Thomas played poker with Joran on Sunday afternoon in the casino. Thomas was also instrumental in identifying Joran to Jug and Beth.

Also it is reported that the fight with Joran that occurred at Carlos'N Charlie's on the night that Natalee disappeared also involved Thomas.

It was apparently broken up by Carlos'N Charlie's security. Some say that if the fight had not been broken up, there might have been a much different outcome. Thomas is said to be quite an athlete.

At the time, other friends of hers expressed concern too, but were apparently appeased when Natalee waved to them.

Sean McVea (Natalee's ex-boyfriend) was also on the Aruba trip. He was with Natalee earlier in the day and has an ironic quote attributed to him. "We were all hanging out on the beach. She was laughing and looking so beautiful. She looked up into the blue sky and said how lucky we all were."


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I guess this post would make more sense to me if Joran was missing or dead not Natalee. The comments over there just get better and better, but I am sure similar things are said about some of the stuff that goes on here.
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« Reply #712 on: June 26, 2005, 08:57:21 AM »

I wish we knew what the scufle was about. Was it over poker? Or Natalee?

Either way, it seems like the cousin would have said something to her, like this guy is a jerk, stay away from him.

But there was at least one student who saw her dancing with him, and another who saw her walking with a tall guy that she believed was Joran.

Was the cousin at Carlos & Charlie (in solidarity with Greta Smile  ) on that last night?
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« Reply #713 on: June 26, 2005, 08:58:02 AM »

Do clocks in Aruba mean anything?

It is almost 9am, the hearing was supposed to start at 8:30.
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« Reply #714 on: June 26, 2005, 08:58:50 AM »

WE "Cough" They get a Tissue....LOL
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« Reply #715 on: June 26, 2005, 08:59:25 AM »

It was brought up last night, why weren't the cousins brought right back to Aruba. Who better to walk through the events of the week.
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« Reply #716 on: June 26, 2005, 08:59:57 AM »

I know the topic of lie detectors has been discussed here before - I'll be the first to admit I haven't read every thread.  My question to anyone would be if the boys ARE finally telling the truth (i.e. the brothers dropped Joran and Natalee off at the beach, Joran says they were at the beach and he left her there) - why wouldn't they WANT to take a lie detector test to affirm that?  I know they're not admissible, but they are certainly used.  Is there some legal reason behind it not being requested by the boys and their family?
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« Reply #717 on: June 26, 2005, 09:01:30 AM »

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Wow.. on FOx they said at the benefit yesterday in MB Alabama...they raised $25,000 in just 3 hours.. that is awesome!!!!!


I don't know if $25,000 is going to be enough.

My understanding is they are being comped for their rooms. When my son was missing I had alot of donations and I was staying with a friend, so it cost me nothing while we were searching. I will say there are alot of behind the scenes costs you dont realize until you are placed in this sort of situation. Either way 25k seems like a good start, add to that the donations they are getting aside from this benefit. Hopefully itll be enough to cover expenses and loss of income.
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« Reply #718 on: June 26, 2005, 09:01:40 AM »

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I am convinced that the "young adults", not "kids" who have appeared on National TV have a prepared "script". Therefore, therefore there should be the number of inconsistnecises we heard.


Apparently you haven't met our little Dash.

No scripts, Cancun. You're reaching here.


What many of you may not be understanding is that the AL teens that went on TV did not have scripts. Actually just the opposite that I would defer to arlee to explain if she wishes. It has been researched and backed up by calls that I have made.

Maybe the teens that everyone wants to hear from would go on the MSM shows if they were treated with respect and told the truth. These teens committed no crime yet they are sometimes given a harder time than they actual suspects in this case.

Do not confuse nervousness and bewilderment with inconsistencies.


SORRY RED, I don''t believe that! I BELIEVE THAT ALL OF THEM WHO WERE ON THIS TRIP WERE IN FACT GIVEN A SCRIPT TO FOLLOW.

LOL! ROFLMAO!  cancun?????  SEEK TREATMENT!  NOW!


You mean a script like that possibly bogus or not email supposedly from Deepak?  Now THERE was a script.  Only thing, his mother must not have gotten her copy.  She said Natalee did not speak one word to the boys, not one word and he said in that she said all kinds of ridiculous things.

So if they all say the same thing, it has to be a script instead of the truth?  All 140 of them?  I would thin some would tell if that happened.  A group that large could never keep any kind of secret.  That makes no sense for just like Deepak's mom, somebody would not get their copy or would not keep it straight.  But there are plenty of articles in newspapers quoting various kids.  What normal kid would spent their vacation monitoring Natalee, looking for aberant behavior, anyway?  Yes, girls talk but not when there is nothing to tell.  Joren was not in the same league as these kids and back home, would not have been anybody that I think NH would have wanted to even be seen with let alone have some torrid affair.

There is a good post previously on "carving out" which is the term the locals use in that region for separating a vulnerable female from her group by just sort of jostling her away from them into a car while in a crowd.  

But I don't see what your child-rearing practices have to do with any of this and do not follow your line of thought at all.  Who is blaming a country for something that can't be fixed?  Nothing is going to bring her back but should not others be given the warning?  18 is still considered a minor in this country, thus kids, they cannot vote or drink legally here at that age.  We even have many counties in this state that are called dry because alcohol is not sold but you can have it in your home, just have to buy it elsewhere but what does that have to do with anything?  These KIDS are as well reared as any anywhere.  Are you implyin that her disappearance has to do with her upbringing?  I surely hope not.


No. I mean little MB puppets, speaking about what they were told would be Ok. Sorry and spare me: Jug indicated that his own kids had gone to Aruba 3 yrs. ago and C&C was wild then. So, why were the "kids" from MB at C&C every night despite the fact that they had all inclusive at the HI"and "knew hoow bad C&C was?


While the main motive may have been the scene and the dancing, maybe they also went to C & C to sober up since they would be tempted to drink for free at HI and at C&C they could pace themselves since they had to pay for booze other than the free samples and the contest winnings.  We know they went over there at least twice from first hand press reports.   And it appears there may have been scuffles with Joran both times.
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« Reply #719 on: June 26, 2005, 09:03:23 AM »

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Sorry, all--took me so much time to read and try to catch up that I forgot to post a very small update on TX EquuSearch.

While it's true that the winds on Aruba were quite strong today and they did affect the dogs' work earlier in the day and afternoon, Tim Miller said tonight that they were able to get back to work in the later afternoon and make some progress.  Video showed the dogs working near a hotel.

They have been in the water with the side-scan sonar in at least a couple of places already searched and one that hadn't been (this was as of this evening, sometime before the 10PM CDT newscast).  Eight divers were all assisting during the day and evening.  (Probably still are, as I write this.)

Tim commented on the amount of detritus to sift through being exceptionally voluminous, but not a problem they haven't encountered before.  I assume this is because of tourist areas and so many people coming and going--wrappers, cans, bottles, clothing items.  It's very difficult under these circumstances to know what might be evidence.

It was also mentioned (can't recall if Tim said it or if I read it in an earlier update this afternoon) that Arubans may be called upon to help some of the ground-pounders in coming days.

Of course, anything of significance found will be turned over to authorities--I don't know if they will *announce* anything at this time.  He did say the water searches of today had not turned up anything useful.

I was also surprised to learn there is a total of 24 team members (rather than 17) on the ground in Aruba--and 4 SAR dogs.  Our local news said that three additional dogs had gone down today.  (I thought they were "behind" and just reporting the last dog team, but I had this confirmed, and there are 4--only 1 dog went Friday.)

I might be forgetting one other aspect of today's searches, but I can't think of what it is!

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I'm editing to change the number of dogs to 4 from 6--only 1 dog went on Friday, then 3 on Sat.  My original info was that 3 dogs went on Fri and 3 on Sat.


Great post. We may need to add this to a summary somewhere.
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