RBN #26 NightCrew Sat/Sun

[mehill10]

Old judge has moved to another job.  

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I don't thinkthe lawyer get to attend, but not sure. I think each detainee gets interviewed by the judge for 2-3 hours, and each one is done separately.
Don't know why the change in judges, maybe an elevation to a higher level judge. Lets hope he's not as bad as Ito in the OJ event.

perhaps a recusal?

 No, he was appointed to the Carribean Court.    I think they ae short of judges out there.  Could they move the case to Holland?

i have beenhaving  hard time figureing out just what a defence lawyer does in Aruba

[absolut]

Old judge has moved to another job.  

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I don't thinkthe lawyer get to attend, but not sure. I think each detainee gets interviewed by the judge for 2-3 hours, and each one is done separately.
Don't know why the change in judges, maybe an elevation to a higher level judge. Lets hope he's not as bad as Ito in the OJ event.

perhaps a recusal?

 No, he was appointed to the Carribean Court.    I think they ae short of judges out there.  Could they move the case to Holland?

i have beenhaving  hard time figureing out just what a defence lawyer does in Aruba

Talks to the press and says nothing.

[LemonDrop]

Good morning fellow monkeys!

All I want to say is, if anyone stole/kidnapped/murdered/raped/harmed my daughter, vengeance would be mine!    Having said that, I do NOT want the wrong people arrested.  Vengeance meaning action thru the legal system...not thru my own hands.  AND...I wouldn't want someone arrested just for the sake of "arresting someone".  

However I do think those in custody have something to do with Natalee's disappearance.

I am impressed with Beth Holloway's actions.  In fact, I'm in awe.... I'm a wuss when it comes to the thought of some bodily harm coming to either of my kids!

Carry on. I'm still on coffee....

[LemonDrop]

i have beenhaving  hard time figureing out just what a defence lawyer does in Aruba

Amen.  Perhaps arubagirl could explain?

[Curiosity]

I'm impatient....this waiting is getting insane....I even thought we were going to be bored to death with a report on mango juice (FOX). Glad it was only an ad.......

Anyone want to bet who gets what amount of time in jail??

Easy bet....Joren stays another round!

Not sure about the brothers or dad??

[nancy_drew]

i have beenhaving  hard time figureing out just what a defence lawyer does in Aruba

Amen.  Perhaps arubagirl could explain?

I agree.  However, I thought they are allowed to visit with their clients.  What concerns me is having a lawyer for a father leads me to believe Joran is going to keep his mouth shut, no matter what.  I'm sure Dad said "Don't talk, you don't have to"  

Original reports suggest Joran was shocked that he father was arrested.

[Orangecrush]

Could someone enlighten me a the timelime between when the Kalpoe brothers drop NH and JVDS off and the time Joran text messaged his friend.  

Curious.  May not take a lot of time to murder someone, but to hatch a plan and dispose of a body would seem to me to take more than an hour.  Unless of course he was experienced at doing this and knew the drill.  

Thanks, orangecrush

[KackyLacky]

Kacky...

You're looking FABULOUS this morning, Dahlink....

That is the BEST avitar...

LOL

I'm gonna put up a new Nancy Drew soon...I didn't want to take up bandwidth.

ain't plastic surgery maaaaarrrrvelous!   kiss kiss!

[iquitos]

i have beenhaving  hard time figuring out just what a defence lawyer does in Aruba

Amen.  Perhaps arubagirl could explain?

In the investigative phase, before actual charges are lodged, i don't think they have much to do except monitor and enter procedural motions.  I beleieve they will be present today and can provide advice to clients.  my impression is they get busy when charges are actually brought, at which time they can bring up all the mistakes made in this phase.  

about the search and wind.  wind is constant.  see those trees that are permanently bent in one direction?

[momto5]

I'm impatient....this waiting is getting insane....I even thought we were going to be bored to death with a report on mango juice (FOX). Glad it was only an ad.......

Anyone want to bet who gets what amount of time in jail??

Easy bet....Joren stays another round!

Not sure about the brothers or dad??

I think they all remain detained. Possibly they decide to change the status on one or two to material witness rather then suspects. if anyone does get out Im betting on Steve C and/or Satish. Deepok, Joran and dad all stay in. Thats my guess.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Kacky...

You're looking FABULOUS this morning, Dahlink....

That is the BEST avitar...

LOL

I'm gonna put up a new Nancy Drew soon...I didn't want to take up bandwidth.

ain't plastic surgery maaaaarrrrvelous!   kiss kiss!

LMAO.. thats for the laugh!!  

[iquitos]

Could someone enlighten me a the timelime between when the Kalpoe brothers drop NH and JVDS off and the time Joran text messaged his friend.  

Curious.  May not take a lot of time to murder someone, but to hatch a plan and dispose of a body would seem to me to take more than an hour.  Unless of course he was experienced at doing this and knew the drill.  

Thanks, orangecrush

 

see timeline in topics.  you are right there is very little time for rank amateurs to dispose of a body so it won't be dug up or float starting from scratch with no tools in pitch darkness and trying to beat daylight at 6 am.

[pinemeadows]

about the search and wind.  wind is constant.  see those trees that are permanently bent in one direction?

Sounds exactly like Wyoming....oops, Aruba has trees.

[la_cavalière]

So if one of them is released, do you think they'll talk to the press?

[pinemeadows]

So if one of them is released, do you think they'll talk to the press?

CAN they talk to the press?  It's my understanding that just because you're released doesn't mean you won't be brought right back in the next day, or week, or month...

[Angiex911dsptchr]

So if one of them is released, do you think they'll talk to the press?

Good question... IMO  I doubt they will talk to press..may be advised not to.. and who knows.. they could always be brought back in later?

[momto5]

So if one of them is released, do you think they'll talk to the press?

I think thats why everyone will be detained even if they are just witnesses at this point. After the security guard spoke with the press I dont think they want these guys to. My understanding someone on the news said you can be held as a material witness in aruba and remain in custody. Given the media attention I bet no one goes home today.

[klaasend]

So if one of them is released, do you think they'll talk to the press?

CAN they talk to the press?  It's my understanding that just because you're released doesn't mean you won't be brought right back in the next day, or week, or month...

The security guards spoke.  If they release Steve Croes it's possible he'll talk...but I doubt if either of the Kalpoe brothers will, especially if one is still in jail.

[sarah]

I am really surprised that Anita VDS is talking to the press like she is.  Don't get me wrong, I am glad, but I wonder if her son or husband's lawyers are happy about her comments.

[Louise]

While Anita cannot reveal what her son/husband said to her, she may have invaluable information such has:

Was laundary done and has son/husband ever done laundary. If they have never touched a washing machine and suddenly Joran washed his clothes he wore that night, would that be significant?

Were things missing from the house. For example did she have a ball of rope in her laundary room for the last 7 years and was it suddenly gone.

Was Joran in possession of an ATM card?

WAs her garden observed to be freshly dug, a new bed for instance that wasn't there before she left for Holland.

Was the car washed and squeaky clean? Did husband or son ever was the car.?

If my husband ever washes his car and gets it cleaned I will know he murdered someone.

What I am saying is that this woman is in a position to have noticed unusual things.

As to the criticism of Jar and his attitude, some her identify more wtih anyone else in the world than an angry white well to do man. And I say my attitude would be a damn sight worse.