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Author Topic: A very concise and detailed timeline from (WriteNow) 6/28PM  (Read 35965 times)
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« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2005, 01:31:59 PM »

2pm- 10.pm      
Deepak @ Cyberzone @ Internet Café. Hmm.. Deepak email correct?

I was under the impression that the Mom said he gets off at 11pm, cept on Sunday cuz the picture say so.. see Foxnews ..

Mon-Sat  9am -11pm
Sun         2pm-10pm
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« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2005, 05:15:12 PM »

Thanks for the Timeline.
It is a very valuable resource.

As far at the time the Internet Cafe closed
It was a Sunday, Compananzi, so it did close at 10PM that night.

Joran told the MB kids that Sunday was a slow night on the island that is why they were surprised to see him there.
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« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2005, 06:35:46 PM »

Okey this is the first time I actually read the time line completely.

One question, that was the first time I heard anything about the two atm transactions.  Where did you hear that?  Just curious, for what reason would you have to make two withdrawls from an atm at that time of the morning/
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« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2005, 10:30:17 AM »

2-3:00 am.......Neighbor sees Kalpoe brothers washing Deepak’s car

Wow this is fishy,  the last thing i would be doing in the middle of the night is wash my car?

Also.....is it the norm in Aruba for teens to be out until 4am??  I dont buy any of this crap. I hope they get a big break and soon.
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« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2005, 11:11:36 AM »

Quote from: "CaveCricket"
2-3:00 am.......Neighbor sees Kalpoe brothers washing Deepak’s car

Wow this is fishy,  the last thing i would be doing in the middle of the night is wash my car?

Also.....is it the norm in Aruba for teens to be out until 4am??  I dont buy any of this crap. I hope they get a big break and soon.


Does anybody sleep in Aruba?
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« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2005, 05:35:07 PM »

Thanks so much absolut!!  The timeline will be a great reference for all of us, especially those of us who have little time to keep up the details.  

I do wish someone would spell out, like your timeline, the points of concern/ facts in need of more serious investigation:

-- Numorous clashes w/ Joran & MB students - ??
-- AM Cell phone call from Santa Lucias -??
-- AM  ATM withdrawals from Paulus VDS bank account - ??
-- AM Kalpoe brothers car wash - ??  what the?

Obvious points, but spelling out in print to direct attention to  - for further additions as info comes in.

Thanks again!
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« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2005, 06:08:21 PM »

4:00 pm..........Deepak email says he went to work even though in same email said he wasn’t working that day

from e-mail:

 my friend called me and said hey i met some girls in the casino and her friends and they want us to meet them in carlos tonight do you have to work tomorrow morning i said no , so he said pick me up later then i said ok. so i got off my shift at 10 pm
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« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2005, 07:57:59 PM »

Papito,

Mr. PVDS was relieved of his duties as Judge-in-training and lost two positions. The goverment hasn't been happy with his performance to say the least. Any government offical can be cracked eventually. He isn't God, so to speak, or think he is so high that the world doesn't seem him for who he really is.  I am glad the media got a hold of this case as it seems they were ready to dismiss it, and put an innocent man like Mickey John in jail. Just because their are cases in the USA is still no comparison.  I don't view Aruba as a bad place, just the authorities seem like they were doing a lousy job for letting the suspects go for 10 days, and this is a perfect time to get rid of evidence. Now the truth is unfolding just like in some cases here in the USA. I do think what the problem was it has taken so long for the authorities to do their investigation, and not using current tools of today's technology in the beginning like a month ago. Not that they can use these tools (lie detector) in a court procedure, but they can use them as tools. I also understand that Aruba procedures are different that the USA, so this had cause alot of discomfort for the NH family in all the waiting.

People in Aruba have been very nice is what I hear, but so far if a crime is committed there, it is very frustrating if your are a foreigner visiting there, and if this was your love one.  

It is amazing how they acted like cowboys to arrest Mickey John who is black and believed the white boys, but didn't go to arrest them in a cowboy manner, did they?

Aruba needs to get it together and start accepting help from others, it doesn't mean that one is incompent, but I do see why the USA is very frustrated with Aruba's investigation procedures. They didn't want the FBI involved, but the Dutch did get invoved eventually after a month goes by. Like NH was going to show up alive, as most people in missing persons cases if they don't find the person, the chances become slim.  

Perhaps, Aruba did botch the investigation, and perhaps intentionally, since everyone seems to be related in some manner, and a particular family thinks they are above the law.  Letting the last people who was seen with NH walk for 10 days? They got rid of all the evidence as they had enough time to do so? Why was money being withdrawn from PVDS bank account twice on the evening NH disappeared? Oh,  the reason he was gambling with his son. That is not impressive that his son has had 3 websites exposing his other side, drinking and gambling for an underage young man. Most people realize it already that a perfect crime has been committed, and the suspects will walk, or will they due to no body? I live very close to the college that Joran is going too, and believe me the community everywhere I go, everyone is following this case.  

If PVDS family is upset, imagine how NH family is, at least they know their son is alive. If they are so understanding, why is PVDS not helping to find NH? I don't see any great efforts on their part, do you?

Crimes are committed here in Florida everyday, but does this stop people from visiting here? We had two shark attacks and the key is to beware of the dangers no matter where one travels is the advice, including Aruba. Just because PVDS is, or was an employee of the government that he is head nacho, because he isn't. Eventually the lies catch up, or other events happened that trigger the fall of power in the least expecting ways. Flowers4u and prayers for NH's family.
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« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2005, 11:45:50 PM »

"OK. I was just going by what his mom said in an interview (I think it was with Greta on FOX). She said he'd taken some AP courses and most who do take the test at the end of the year. Didn't realize he hadn't. Do you know why he didn't? Or did he drop out of the AP classes before the end of the year?"
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner by answering your email. The mom's (Mrs VDS) statement above bothers me. The AP exams cost $82 USD/ea this year. The parents I deal with are well aware that their lil darlings not only take the difficult  AP course but then take the 3 hr exam (on its precise scheduled day and time) So, why is this mom lying? Lie about the small things and...hmmm?
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« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2005, 07:46:01 AM »

I have a few questions.. The time line (under "concise timeline bt WN" at ScaredMonk. It has a sticky, and Is in the Discussion Forum

QUESTION ONE:
Why were the Kalpoe Brothers washing their car, as seen by their neighbors, at 2 AM the night Natalee disappeared?

QUESTION TWO:
Why were two withdrawals made from "someone" at PaulVDS's Aruba ATM... around 3AM, and later at 3.45
AM, in the wee hours after N's disappearance?

QUESTION THREE:
It is common to read that Joran bragged about sex w/ N. at his school the next AM. Is it true he told quite a few people that she drowned too?

Thx for any responses,
SL
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« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2005, 07:57:02 AM »

Quote from: "SL"

QUESTION ONE:
Why were the Kalpoe Brothers washing their car, as seen by their neighbors, at 2 AM the night Natalee disappeared?


It's not a fact, just a fairytale
Quote from: "SL"

QUESTION TWO:
Why were two withdrawals made from "someone" at PaulVDS's Aruba ATM... around 3AM, and later at 3.45
AM, in the wee hours after N's disappearance?


Same like above... it is not a fact, also a fairytale

Quote from: "SL"

QUESTION THREE:
It is common to read that Joran bragged about sex w/ N. at his school the next AM. Is it true he told quite a few people that she drowned too?


I think that everyone has to stay by the facts on this board.
Fairytales won't give the solution... just as insinuations.
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« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2005, 08:10:19 AM »

Quote from: "caribguy"
Quote from: "SL"

QUESTION ONE:
Why were the Kalpoe Brothers washing their car, as seen by their neighbors, at 2 AM the night Natalee disappeared?


It's not a fact, just a fairytale
Quote from: "SL"

QUESTION TWO:
Why were two withdrawals made from "someone" at PaulVDS's Aruba ATM... around 3AM, and later at 3.45
AM, in the wee hours after N's disappearance?


Same like above... it is not a fact, also a fairytale

Quote from: "SL"

QUESTION THREE:
It is common to read that Joran bragged about sex w/ N. at his school the next AM. Is it true he told quite a few people that she drowned too?


I think that everyone has to stay by the facts on this board.
Fairytales won't give the solution... just as insinuations.


1. Lots of reports are out there stating that Deepak  WAS washing his car early morning really, really well - the night she disappeared

See other sites such as Reihl world...more info has come from there that is not coming from here due to the side "issues" of attacking Natalee's reputation and bickering between the countries...many of us are now using that site much more than originally.  

NO OFFENSE TOM - still love it here too.....hope I didn't hurt any feelings.
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« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2005, 12:59:36 PM »

Source for Kalpoe brothers washing their car between 2 am & 3 am is from a reputable source (their neighbor).

ATM useage is not verified. That's why ???? are by it.
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