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« Reply #820 on: June 26, 2005, 06:07:09 PM »

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With all respect for natalee , I truly hope they find her alive. Your opinion is very biased in blaming Joran and his friends . Although I have not seen any real prove yet that he is guilty . There are many scenarios possible .
You are guilty untill proven guilty. That is basic human right.



Look, Imet the kid... I saw Natalee with him... I've heard his lies.... There is no doubt in my mind taht he is guilty.  If you don't think so, that's fine... but if he knows where my friend is, I just want him to grow up and fess up.  I just want her home.

I don't even care about his punishment... God will handle that... I just want him to tell us where my friend is.  We need her back.


Exactly.  And I think her parents probably feel the same way--please just tell us the TRUTH!!!!!
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« Reply #821 on: June 26, 2005, 06:08:15 PM »

------ maybe you could elaborate - I don't think I have ever seen you put this in print - I met him , I saw him with her and I am sure he is guilty - what exactly convinces you of this - it must be a fairly strong conviction.
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« Reply #822 on: June 26, 2005, 06:08:38 PM »

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PVDS released with Steve? Did I miss this?
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The judge ordered the father of Dutch teen Joran van der Sloot (search) and party boat deejay Steve Gregory Croes to be released Monday at 1 p.m. in the absence of sufficient evidence to continue holding them.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160699,00.html


Wow good catch.


OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope this means that the father has accomplished what needs to be accomplished, ie.....WHERE TO FIND NH?????????


If PVDS knows where Natalee is they wouldn't be releasing him.


Maybe, but more likely, he could elicit and compel his son to say where she is and/or what happened.
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« Reply #823 on: June 26, 2005, 06:08:52 PM »

FOX says that Anita says that daddy has already be released.

Here's a theory (maybe a bad one, but):

Joran calls Daddy late that night and Daddy's attitude is you got yourself out there, so find your own way back. Daddy knows nothing about Natalee and only that Joran needed a ride.

This might explain Daddy's "The Telltale Heart" sweating during the Greta interview. Daddy now feels guilty for not picking up his son.

You know, it was all Momma's fault because she went to Holland (and returned to Kafka Land) that Joran even went out that night. So it's also all Daddy's fault for not picking up Sonny Boy.
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« Reply #824 on: June 26, 2005, 06:08:56 PM »

Paul van der sloot RELEASED



Will have video up any moment at my blog:

http://thepoliticalteen.net/2005/06/26/paulrealsed/
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« Reply #825 on: June 26, 2005, 06:09:33 PM »

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Paul van der sloot RELEASED

<img src='http://thepoliticalteen.net/images/releasevander.jpg' alt='' />

Will have video up any moment at my blog:

http://thepoliticalteen.net/2005/06/26/paulrealsed/[/img]


Thanks Ian Smile
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« Reply #826 on: June 26, 2005, 06:09:44 PM »

Is it possible that the truth can't be told:

Follow this logic. If there are 3 versions or more of the truth. There could have been multiple agendas starting at 3am. With no body and the knowledge no body can be found. The truth of a some would not be the truths of others.
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« Reply #827 on: June 26, 2005, 06:09:58 PM »

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------ maybe you could elaborate - I don't think I have ever seen you put this in print - I met him , I saw him with her and I am sure he is guilty - what exactly convinces you of this - it must be a fairly strong conviction.


He is arrogant... a trouble-maker... he fought my classmates, lied about his age, drank, gambled, and shows no respect for women, or  really anyone else for that matter.  He just gives off this whole "I'm untouchable" persona.... I think he thinks he's invincible and doesn't care about who he hurts...
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« Reply #828 on: June 26, 2005, 06:10:09 PM »

With these releases it appears that all this PRESSURE they have put on the main suspect(Joran) has not worked. Either Joran is INNOCENT or he can stand lots of physcological punishment. Think about it he has been in custoday with daily 11 hour interrogations for 2 weeks. The only thing they have on Joran and the 2 boys is that they fabricated the Location as to where they left Natalee.  Other than that no one knows what is going on in this case.
 The big question will be if Steven Croes and Paulus VD Sloot will be able to talk to the Media about what has transpired the last few days.


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« Reply #829 on: June 26, 2005, 06:10:24 PM »

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He told Joran not to talk because it was standard legal advice.
If in deed they did get dropped at the Marriott maybe they walked in the opposite direction from the HI to ensure a few moments alone - where exactly are the fisherman's huts?
I'm with the person a minute ago who suggested PVDS may have accomplished what they originally arrested him to do.


Must be a North East thing.....hehehe....way of thinking. ^5
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« Reply #830 on: June 26, 2005, 06:10:59 PM »

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Paul van der sloot RELEASED

<img src='http://thepoliticalteen.net/images/releasevander.jpg' alt='' />

Will have video up any moment at my blog:

http://thepoliticalteen.net/2005/06/26/paulrealsed/[/img]


Thanks Ian Smile



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« Reply #831 on: June 26, 2005, 06:11:02 PM »

so now we know that the inexperienced prosecutors were over reaching in taking paul v/d sloot in.  the judge found they have no reasonable suspicion to hold him on suspicion of the named offenses based on the evidence presented.  this is a real setback for the prosecution.  back to square one.  where is natalee?
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« Reply #832 on: June 26, 2005, 06:11:18 PM »

I just said it this afternoon that they will release him,. his 48 hours is up and they have nothing incriminating against him if he`s working for the law or not. I think that`s just the reason they pick him up also to avoid people thinking they would cover up
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« Reply #833 on: June 26, 2005, 06:11:31 PM »

Yesterday RUMOR was; expect at least two to be released and MORE arrest coming tonight or tomorrow.
Well.......I'm waiting....it's now tomorrow and nothing mentioned about any new arrest.

Also, could Pauls release be that possibly Joran is now talking?  RUMOR was Paul was arrested in order to get joran to talk....and Joran DID look as if he'd been crying when leaving the court house today.....IMO
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« Reply #834 on: June 26, 2005, 06:11:50 PM »

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What paul is being released ???????

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Just for the record PVDS being released blows my theory and I am ok with that.

The down side is the list of theorys actually gets bigger with these 2 developments.


Yeah, things that make you go hmmm....Biggest issue with that, there goes the second car. So the brothers have to still be lying.


You see the problem with you , (and a lot of other people in here) is that you start with an assumption and then try to find evidence to support it. What you should be doing is looking at the evidence first and work from there.
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« Reply #835 on: June 26, 2005, 06:12:07 PM »

Hi there,

I understand you are a friend of natalees , obviously you have more acces to information as I do . I just try to imagine all scenarios possible with the information or rumours I have at my dispossal.Not to insult but to find out what happend. I can imagine that you feel insulted or desillusioned when somebody is not taking for granted the friend you know, my reaction would be the same I guess when I am in your shoes and we would be having a discussion about a friend of mine..

 The reason why I joined this blog as I am eager as all others including you to find out what happend to her. And to keep her spirit alive.
And I feel by joining this blog with many others I contribute to the pressure on authorities to do everything possible to find her.

If I have offended you my sincere apologies.


Jeroen

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Quote from: "bendex"
With all respect for natalee , I truly hope they find her alive. Your opinion is very biased in blaming Joran and his friends . Although I have not seen any real prove yet that he is guilty . There are many scenarios possible .
You are guilty untill proven guilty. That is basic human right.



Look, Imet the kid... I saw Natalee with him... I've heard his lies.... There is no doubt in my mind taht he is guilty.  If you don't think so, that's fine... but if he knows where my friend is, I just want him to grow up and fess up.  I just want her home.

I don't even care about his punishment... God will handle that... I just want him to tell us where my friend is.  We need her back.
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« Reply #836 on: June 26, 2005, 06:12:09 PM »

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------ maybe you could elaborate - I don't think I have ever seen you put this in print - I met him , I saw him with her and I am sure he is guilty - what exactly convinces you of this - it must be a fairly strong conviction.


He is arrogant... a trouble-maker... he fought my classmates, lied about his age, drank, gambled, and shows no respect for women, or  really anyone else for that matter.  He just gives off this whole "I'm untouchable" persona.... I think he thinks he's invincible and doesn't care about who he hurts...

Let's stress the part that he drank, gambled, and partied at CnC's illegally...he is only 17, and he and his parents knew he was doing these illegal things.
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« Reply #837 on: June 26, 2005, 06:12:23 PM »

There is always the possibility that these 3 are innocent.
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« Reply #838 on: June 26, 2005, 06:12:26 PM »

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He is arrogant... a trouble-maker... he fought my classmates, lied about his age, drank, gambled, and shows no respect for women, or really anyone else for that matter. He just gives off this whole "I'm untouchable" persona.... I think he thinks he's invincible and doesn't care about who he hurts...


Yet he is shy/quiet around the MB group and she introduces herself to him?
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« Reply #839 on: June 26, 2005, 06:12:32 PM »

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FOX says that Anita says that daddy has already be released.

Here's a theory (maybe a bad one, but):

Joran calls Daddy late that night and Daddy's attitude is you got yourself out there, so find your own way back. Daddy knows nothing about Natalee and only that Joran needed a ride.

This might explain Daddy's "The Telltale Heart" sweating during the Greta interview. Daddy now feels guilty for not picking up his son.

You know, it was all Momma's fault because she went to Holland (and returned to Kafka Land) that Joran even went out that night. So it's also all Daddy's fault for not picking up Sonny Boy.



if dutch bag was walking what did he do with natelee someone had to come help him
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