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« Reply #840 on: June 26, 2005, 06:12:34 PM »

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the police knows it's crap... the FBI has reports from at least 100 of us saying that we were out there all night and would have seen her. Joran is lying, that's why people feel he's guilty.


100 of you at the beach at that specific time? that`s a lot, so it wasn`t quit at all then on the beach...


Makes me wonder about earlier statements according to which 'the majority' were hanging out around the hotel, HI that is, specifically the pool area... + too busy with themselves partying to have noticed anything------- suddenly they were all in a position to observe a dark stretch of beach at least 500m long... Something doesn't add up + this time it's not Joran's little story...
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« Reply #841 on: June 26, 2005, 06:12:36 PM »

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I just said it this afternoon that they will release him,. his 48 hours is up and they have nothing incriminating against him if he`s working for the law or not. I think that`s just the reason they pick him up also to avoid people thinking they would cover up


You sure did.  You'll have to let us know what the Dutch media said...
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« Reply #842 on: June 26, 2005, 06:13:00 PM »

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With all respect for natalee , I truly hope they find her alive. Your opinion is very biased in blaming Joran and his friends . Although I have not seen any real prove yet that he is guilty . There are many scenarios possible .
You are guilty untill proven guilty. That is basic human right.



Look, Imet the kid... I saw Natalee with him... I've heard his lies.... There is no doubt in my mind taht he is guilty.  If you don't think so, that's fine... but if he knows where my friend is, I just want him to grow up and fess up.  I just want her home.

I don't even care about his punishment... God will handle that... I just want him to tell us where my friend is.  We need her back.


Excellent, Dash. At this point, I'm sure a lot would agree to just about any concession just to get her back. That's it....give her back!
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« Reply #843 on: June 26, 2005, 06:13:06 PM »

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"unusual circumstances"

This has my interest piqued.

Please tell me this is as simple as previous scenarios. [/b]



People have just said that because she was away from home, her character might have done a 180... not likely!


---  i think we are back to the cultural thing.  why would natalee going out with joran raise questions about her character.  everything i know about her speaks of good character.  Isn't a girl allowed to have fun, to venture out and explore?  How does that bring her character into question?   Rolling Eyes



What are you talking about?  


I'm referencing the fact that many have said that no matter how greata person she is, that she probably went out and had sex and did drugs and got crazy... I'm just letting people know that's not true.


--- Please don't badmouth sex or drugs.  Shocked  I have experience with both and have found them to be quite good.  Nothing wrong with an 18 year old having sex or doing drugs, especially in a country that doesn't view it as illegal.

On the other hand, I (like Tom Cruise) am totally against going crazy.
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« Reply #844 on: June 26, 2005, 06:13:21 PM »

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There is always the possibility that these 3 are innocent.



why all the lies if they are innocent
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« Reply #845 on: June 26, 2005, 06:13:24 PM »

somebody said it was about phone calls.  he said he was asleep.  according to phone records he talked to people that night.  judge looked at what they had and released him.  so they had nothing
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« Reply #846 on: June 26, 2005, 06:13:33 PM »

Will Joran and the Kalpoe Brothers RELEASE be NEXT ??????


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« Reply #847 on: June 26, 2005, 06:13:50 PM »

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I just said it this afternoon that they will release him,. his 48 hours is up and they have nothing incriminating against him if he`s working for the law or not. I think that`s just the reason they pick him up also to avoid people thinking they would cover up


Yeah, you're smart AND pretty! Laughing

So what's going to happen next? Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #848 on: June 26, 2005, 06:14:31 PM »

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What paul is being released ???????

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Just for the record PVDS being released blows my theory and I am ok with that.

The down side is the list of theorys actually gets bigger with these 2 developments.


Yeah, things that make you go hmmm....Biggest issue with that, there goes the second car. So the brothers have to still be lying.


You see the problem with you , (and a lot of other people in here) is that you start with an assumption and then try to find evidence to support it. What you should be doing is looking at the evidence first and work from there.


Not really because there is no evidence anyone else is involved and JVDS did not have a car for body transport.
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« Reply #849 on: June 26, 2005, 06:14:38 PM »

I think the problem is everyone wants Natalee's safe return...and it's been awhile.  

And the Dutch's way of doing things makes it difficult for all of us.  We're not patient.  At least I'm not.  And I wouldn't be if it was my daughter/friend!
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« Reply #850 on: June 26, 2005, 06:14:41 PM »

....and Joran DID look as if he'd been crying when leaving the court house today.....IMO[/quote]

Where did you see a phot of Joran leaving the court house today?
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« Reply #851 on: June 26, 2005, 06:15:00 PM »

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What paul is being released ???????

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Just for the record PVDS being released blows my theory and I am ok with that.

The down side is the list of theorys actually gets bigger with these 2 developments.


Yeah, things that make you go hmmm....Biggest issue with that, there goes the second car. So the brothers have to still be lying.


You see the problem with you , (and a lot of other people in here) is that you start with an assumption and then try to find evidence to support it. What you should be doing is looking at the evidence first and work from there.

With all due respect, Inspector, please don't say we Monkeys have "the problem".  This forum is for speculating.  Please don't attack us personally.
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« Reply #852 on: June 26, 2005, 06:15:11 PM »

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"unusual circumstances"

This has my interest piqued.

Please tell me this is as simple as previous scenarios. [/b]



People have just said that because she was away from home, her character might have done a 180... not likely!


Drinking at a nightclub, leaving with new freinds, or walking on the beach alone, I think are not character issues. The big character issue in my mind is that I don't see Joran or the Kalpoes as kidnappers/murderers. The only other alternative is that Natalee ran away (not likely) or someone else kidnapped her. And I don't think anyone should be talking about murder untill you find a dead body or a lot of forensic evidence. Rolling Eyes


People are reasonably presumed dead if they disappear under questionable circumstances and there is no evidence that they are alive.
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« Reply #853 on: June 26, 2005, 06:15:37 PM »

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I believe you Dash...I do...God Bless you hon..I dont care what people think of my theory or speculation.. OPINIONS ARE LIKE Crying or Very sad


Dash -
I want you to know that 99% of us are on this forum because we care about Natalle & feel for all you guys! That being said, when we speculate about her actions, we are in no way intending any harm to her character. We speak out of experience as people.

I live in a city with lots of American teenage tourists  who come here because our legal drinking age is almost non-existent. I cannot tell you how many times I've given a girl a ride when she just met me sometimes with my friends in the car.

As for knowing what someone will do in unusual circumstances - a friend who I've known for 12years did something last year which I would never have thought in my wildest dreams!! Not even her mother cold have predicted that. We must explore all avenues, especially in a very unusual situation like this one.  We all feel for you.
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« Reply #854 on: June 26, 2005, 06:15:40 PM »

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....and Joran DID look as if he'd been crying when leaving the court house today.....IMO


Where did you see a phot of Joran leaving the court house today?[/quote]

I was gonna ask that same question...anybody got a link?
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« Reply #855 on: June 26, 2005, 06:15:41 PM »

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I am afraid my comment that was qouted at teh top of page 39 has been misunderstood by some.  I know Natalee would not have sex and this guy could not accept that.  I am sorry for any confusion


mine as well. I was not talking about Natalee. I was speaking about most teenage girls. I don't know Natalee, other that what her family and friends have said about her, and I believe them.
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« Reply #856 on: June 26, 2005, 06:15:52 PM »

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With all respect for natalee , I truly hope they find her alive. Your opinion is very biased in blaming Joran and his friends . Although I have not seen any real prove yet that he is guilty . There are many scenarios possible .
You are guilty untill proven guilty. That is basic human right.



Look, Imet the kid... I saw Natalee with him... I've heard his lies.... There is no doubt in my mind taht he is guilty.  If you don't think so, that's fine... but if he knows where my friend is, I just want him to grow up and fess up.  I just want her home.

I don't even care about his punishment... God will handle that... I just want him to tell us where my friend is.  We need her back.


Excellent, Dash. At this point, I'm sure a lot would agree to just about any concession just to get her back. That's it....give her back!


dash, you met joran?  what was he like on first impression?
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« Reply #857 on: June 26, 2005, 06:15:53 PM »

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Quote from: "iquitos"
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"unusual circumstances"

This has my interest piqued.

Please tell me this is as simple as previous scenarios. [/b]



People have just said that because she was away from home, her character might have done a 180... not likely!


---  i think we are back to the cultural thing.  why would natalee going out with joran raise questions about her character.  everything i know about her speaks of good character.  Isn't a girl allowed to have fun, to venture out and explore?  How does that bring her character into question?   Rolling Eyes



What are you talking about?  


I'm referencing the fact that many have said that no matter how greata person she is, that she probably went out and had sex and did drugs and got crazy... I'm just letting people know that's not true.


--- Please don't badmouth sex or drugs.  Shocked  I have experience with both and have found them to be quite good.  Nothing wrong with an 18 year old having sex or doing drugs, especially in a country that doesn't view it as illegal.

On the other hand, I (like Tom Cruise) am totally against going crazy.


I've met Hunter Thompson and you're no Hunter Thompson...you just misquoted him.  (yes, I have really met him)
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« Reply #858 on: June 26, 2005, 06:15:58 PM »

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Hi there,

I understand you are a friend of natalees , obviously you have more acces to information as I do . I just try to imagine all scenarios possible not insult but to find out what happend. I can imagine that you feel insulted or desillusioned when somebody is not taking for granted the friend you know, my reaction would be the same I guess when I am in your shoes and we would be having a discussion about a friend of mine..

 The reason why I joined this blog as I am eager as all others including you to find out what happend to her. And to keep her spirit alive.
And I feel by joining this blog with many others I contribute to the pressure on authorities to do everything possible to find her.

If I have offended you my sincere apologies.


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With all respect for natalee , I truly hope they find her alive. Your opinion is very biased in blaming Joran and his friends . Although I have not seen any real prove yet that he is guilty . There are many scenarios possible .
You are guilty untill proven guilty. That is basic human right.



Look, Imet the kid... I saw Natalee with him... I've heard his lies.... There is no doubt in my mind taht he is guilty.  If you don't think so, that's fine... but if he knows where my friend is, I just want him to grow up and fess up.  I just want her home.

I don't even care about his punishment... God will handle that... I just want him to tell us where my friend is.  We need her back.




Thank you for your sincerity.  It really is approciated.  I understand if you legitamitely want to find Nat... that's my main goal, too.
It is just hard to see her further victimized by speculation that has nothing to back it up... rumors fly quickly and once released, they are hard to catch, even if they are totally unfounded.  
Please continue to think about what you say before you say it... actions have consequences and people have feelings.

Thank you for being less stubborn than me!  haha  Smile
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« Reply #859 on: June 26, 2005, 06:16:13 PM »

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I know these people... this isn't true.  This is just another conspiracy theory used to detract attention away from the truth.
Ditto.[/quote]

http://www.vcresearch.info/open/forums.asp?TopicId=4576&ForumId=70

This is a quoting of the facts of the Laundering. Many portions of this THEORY are true.[/quote]

It has nothing to do with the family!!
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