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« Reply #1040 on: June 27, 2005, 02:39:57 AM »

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do you think they got rid of the body that first night or came back and did it the 2nd night?
I just cant believe a few kids would know exactly what to do in this situation.


I don't know. We just don't have enough information.

I still think there's a possibility she was taken to the v.d. Sloot house instead of the beach. I don't she was taken to any of the places the boys said (in lie...ah... version one, two, three, four or ten).

But I do think Papa's in this thing big time.


Pure common sense says Natalee was taken to Joren's apartment.  No facts are available--yet-- but this is the most likely place he would have taken her.
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« Reply #1041 on: June 27, 2005, 02:41:02 AM »

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do you think they got rid of the body that first night or came back and did it the 2nd night?

I just cant believe a few kids would know exactly what to do in this situation.

I gotta think if there was  body, they would get rid of it asap!


However, it might explain what JVDS was actually doing when PVDS claimed he was at the casino. It seems rather easy for the casino to determine if he had been there as every casino I have been in has eyes in the ceiling recording every square inch.
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« Reply #1042 on: June 27, 2005, 02:41:03 AM »

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It's this little matter of character. When a person lies, he loses credibility. When he lies a second time, his credibility rating slips even lower. When the person refuses to tell the truth, he loses all credibility. Add to that pictures of this person drinking underage, drug references, fighting, and late nights gambling, underage, in a casino. Then, lo and behold, this person is the last person to be seen with someone who is missing. No, I don't think the people here are jumping to a conclusion and accusing someone of murder just on the basis on one teensy, weensy little lie ...

It's a conclusion drawn from many other factual items known about the person.


That's what I' saying!  He has lied THREE times cause he's lying now!!!  Hi credibility is off the radar!


Exactly:  I think she was never at the lighthouse and never near the marriott. they need to search the other side of that island.  Hes tried to distance himself from every aspect of Natalie so you can bet hes never mentioned the real place they went thats why I thiink one or both the brothers are involved.
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« Reply #1043 on: June 27, 2005, 02:41:07 AM »

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You are right soccerdad...As far as we Know he lied!!

Ok but does that make him a murderer? I don`t think so. I think what people forget is......it`s a kid he`s 17 years old. If we think that all lyers are murderers than we have I think minimal 1/3 of the universe to accuse! I don`t understand why nobody or at least the people in general here, not everybody thank god, can believe that somebody can lie if you are in the same situation as he is in the beginning then...When you start a lie ususally it`s getting worse we al now that...
But hey if he`s guilty then he have to pay for it absolutly your damn right about it!!


It's this little matter of character.  When a person lies, he loses credibility.  When he lies a second time, his credibility rating slips even lower.  When the person refuses to tell the truth, he loses all credibility.  Add to that pictures of this person drinking underage, drug references, fighting, and late nights gambling, underage, in a casino.  Then, lo and behold, this person is the last person to be seen with someone who is missing.  No, I don't think the people here are jumping to a conclusion and accusing someone of murder just on the basis on one teensy, weensy little lie ...

It's a conclusion drawn from many other factual items known about the person.


Exactly. It is everything taken as a whole that seriously implicates Joran. The circumstancial evidence is very strong. It can take weeks for them to forensically test the physical evidence they collected. I hope they can find something.
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« Reply #1044 on: June 27, 2005, 02:41:24 AM »

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Good posts...


Nite 12!
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« Reply #1045 on: June 27, 2005, 02:41:56 AM »

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You are right soccerdad...As far as we Know he lied!!

Ok but does that make him a murderer? I don`t think so. I think what people forget is......it`s a kid he`s 17 years old. If we think that all lyers are murderers than we have I think minimal 1/3 of the universe to accuse! I don`t understand why nobody or at least the people in general here, not everybody thank god, can believe that somebody can lie if you are in the same situation as he is in the beginning then...When you start a lie ususally it`s getting worse we al now that...
But hey if he`s guilty then he have to pay for it absolutly your damn right about it!!


It's this little matter of character.  When a person lies, he loses credibility.  When he lies a second time, his credibility rating slips even lower.  When the person refuses to tell the truth, he loses all credibility.  Add to that pictures of this person drinking underage, drug references, fighting, and late nights gambling, underage, in a casino.  Then, lo and behold, this person is the last person to be seen with someone who is missing.  No, I don't think the people here are jumping to a conclusion and accusing someone of murder just on the basis on one teensy, weensy little lie ...

It's a conclusion drawn from many other factual items known about the person.

Dayam AZ, das good!
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« Reply #1046 on: June 27, 2005, 02:42:28 AM »

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writenow:

do you think they got rid of the body that first night or came back and did it the 2nd night?

I just cant believe a few kids would know exactly what to do in this situation.

I gotta think if there was  body, they would get rid of it asap!


However, it might explain what JVDS was actually doing when PVDS claimed he was at the casino. It seems rather easy for the casino to determine if he had been there as every casino I have been in has eyes in the ceiling recording every square inch.



I think he was making sure his son had an alibi on the night the body was disposed of.  Why is joran not allowed at the casino late on Sunday night but on MOnday night its ok that he goes and gambles until 3 am.
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« Reply #1047 on: June 27, 2005, 02:43:20 AM »

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Dayam AZ, das good!


Arrow  High five!
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« Reply #1048 on: June 27, 2005, 02:44:12 AM »

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TTown wrote: sorry

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But ya see Hannie, everbody is offering opinions, and they are accepted as such. Then, sometimes, they are argued or rinforced by followup comments and facts. You on the otherhand, seem to trash the others even as you put forth your own! KnowwhutImean?


I trash people?? O my god no show me were? come on.....  


I cant fnd your post quickly and don't want to, but you can look back and maybe you'll see whut I mean!
And I'm not tryin to be offensive, jus sayin!



I`m sorry TTown but I don`t think I trash people/bc it`s not my nature to do that... But If you can`t find the post in which I did, and I did it then I appologize... Although I have a hard time believing it but I`ll give you the benefit of the doubt ok Wink
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« Reply #1049 on: June 27, 2005, 02:44:15 AM »

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It's this little matter of character. When a person lies, he loses credibility. When he lies a second time, his credibility rating slips even lower. When the person refuses to tell the truth, he loses all credibility. Add to that pictures of this person drinking underage, drug references, fighting, and late nights gambling, underage, in a casino. Then, lo and behold, this person is the last person to be seen with someone who is missing. No, I don't think the people here are jumping to a conclusion and accusing someone of murder just on the basis on one teensy, weensy little lie ...

It's a conclusion drawn from many other factual items known about the person.


That's what I' saying!  He has lied THREE times cause he's lying now!!!  Hi credibility is off the radar!


Exactly:  I think she was never at the lighthouse and never near the marriott. they need to search the other side of that island.  Hes tried to distance himself from every aspect of Natalie so you can bet hes never mentioned the real place they went thats why I thiink one or both the brothers are involved.
Tarzan, you got that right!
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« Reply #1050 on: June 27, 2005, 02:44:48 AM »

Guys, it's been a blast, as always.
I'm heading for the zzzz's.

Nite all!
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« Reply #1051 on: June 27, 2005, 02:45:20 AM »

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writenow:

do you think they got rid of the body that first night or came back and did it the 2nd night?

I just cant believe a few kids would know exactly what to do in this situation.

I gotta think if there was  body, they would get rid of it asap!


However, it might explain what JVDS was actually doing when PVDS claimed he was at the casino. It seems rather easy for the casino to determine if he had been there as every casino I have been in has eyes in the ceiling recording every square inch.




I think he was making sure his son had an alibi on the night the body was disposed of.  Why is joran not allowed at the casino late on Sunday night but on MOnday night its ok that he goes and gambles until 3 am.



Good question. He did have school the next day, right?
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« Reply #1052 on: June 27, 2005, 02:45:32 AM »

I'm terribly upset about what happened to Dash earlier. I heard so many people telling her that they had a right to have their voices heard. I've spent DAYS trying to find those voices who actually knew something firsthand about the case, and her voice was completely drowned out. It was awful to watch.
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« Reply #1053 on: June 27, 2005, 02:45:44 AM »

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Guys, it's been a blast, as always.
I'm heading for the zzzz's.

Nite all!


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« Reply #1054 on: June 27, 2005, 02:46:10 AM »

I guess one advantage of living on the left side of the country is you get to wrap up and close the place down.  Anyone staying for last call?
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« Reply #1055 on: June 27, 2005, 02:46:19 AM »

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writenow:

do you think they got rid of the body that first night or came back and did it the 2nd night?

I just cant believe a few kids would know exactly what to do in this situation.

I gotta think if there was  body, they would get rid of it asap!


However, it might explain what JVDS was actually doing when PVDS claimed he was at the casino. It seems rather easy for the casino to determine if he had been there as every casino I have been in has eyes in the ceiling recording every square inch.



I think he was making sure his son had an alibi on the night the body was disposed of.  Why is joran not allowed at the casino late on Sunday night but on MOnday night its ok that he goes and gambles until 3 am.


And too, remember it was 30 minutes +/- before the VDS's answered the door!  Sotaspeak!
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« Reply #1056 on: June 27, 2005, 02:46:32 AM »

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I'm terribly upset about what happened to Dash earlier. I heard so many people telling her that they had a right to have their voices heard. I've spent DAYS trying to find those voices who actually knew something firsthand about the case, and her voice was completely drowned out. It was awful to watch.

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« Reply #1057 on: June 27, 2005, 02:47:04 AM »

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writenow:

do you think they got rid of the body that first night or came back and did it the 2nd night?

I just cant believe a few kids would know exactly what to do in this situation.

I gotta think if there was  body, they would get rid of it asap!


However, it might explain what JVDS was actually doing when PVDS claimed he was at the casino. It seems rather easy for the casino to determine if he had been there as every casino I have been in has eyes in the ceiling recording every square inch.


I think he was making sure his son had an alibi on the night the body was disposed of.  Why is joran not allowed at the casino late on Sunday night but on MOnday night its ok that he goes and gambles until 3 am.


Exactly! I agree with all of ya!
OK. NOW I'm going to bed.
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« Reply #1058 on: June 27, 2005, 02:47:54 AM »

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I guess one advantage of living on the left side of the country is you get to wrap up and close the place down.  Anyone staying for last call?


Hey, I'm on the right side and i'm still here.  But only for another two or three minutes.  LOL.
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« Reply #1059 on: June 27, 2005, 02:47:57 AM »

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I'm terribly upset about what happened to Dash earlier. I heard so many people telling her that they had a right to have their voices heard. I've spent DAYS trying to find those voices who actually knew something firsthand about the case, and her voice was completely drowned out. It was awful to watch.


Jane, unfortunately I have not been on here a lot in the past 2 days (unusual for me I know...hush TT). But can you tell me when this happened to Dash and do you remember who was involved? Just for my own info....
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