RBN #28 6/26/05 Sunday Evening

[~TAZ_MAN~]

Someone noted at least 6 story changes in all by these 3 but yet people still want to claim they are being unfairly persecuted.

[AZLady]

Someone noted at least 6 story changes in all by these 3 but yet people still want to claim they are being unfairly persecuted.

To me, that is the most telling thing of all.

[Itawamba]

Well, who knows?  Maybe Satish has been sneakin' out with Deepak's pimped out ride when Deepak doesn't know about it!  He probably closes his door (and locks it) so D will think he's home and asleep in bed!

[~TAZ_MAN~]

Unfortunately, they are going to lie until some hard evidence is introduced.  I think at this point the boys are at such odds, they should put them in a room together with some phone records and watch the sparks fly.  Produce some evidence to the weakest link.  They've already lied.

I'd love to know what kind of evidence they do have from phone and internet records. I wonder about Deepak's ability to lay a false trail because of his computer experience. Still, it seems like a lot of fore planning for a gang rape if that is what happened. Could Natalee's disappearance have something to do with the scuffle with the MB teens earlier? Some form of retaliation?

I dont think the scuffle was intense enough to warrant such harsh retaliation.  I just think it was rough sex gone bad.

[Tiptoes]

Unfortunately, they are going to lie until some hard evidence is introduced.  I think at this point the boys are at such odds, they should put them in a room together with some phone records and watch the sparks fly.  Produce some evidence to the weakest link.  They've already lied.

I'd love to know what kind of evidence they do have from phone and internet records. I wonder about Deepak's ability to lay a false trail because of his computer experience. Still, it seems like a lot of fore planning for a gang rape if that is what happened. Could Natalee's disappearance have something to do with the scuffle with the MB teens earlier? Some form of retaliation?

I work on computers and I don't think think Deepak is that sophisticated to revise internet records and he has no access to phone records.  I don't think anything was planned.  I don't think any of these bozo's (including the father) is smart enough.  Joran changes his stories more often that I change my shoes.

[AZLady]

Unfortunately, they are going to lie until some hard evidence is introduced.  I think at this point the boys are at such odds, they should put them in a room together with some phone records and watch the sparks fly.  Produce some evidence to the weakest link.  They've already lied.

I'd love to know what kind of evidence they do have from phone and internet records. I wonder about Deepak's ability to lay a false trail because of his computer experience. Still, it seems like a lot of fore planning for a gang rape if that is what happened. Could Natalee's disappearance have something to do with the scuffle with the MB teens earlier? Some form of retaliation?

I dont think the scuffle was intense enough to warrant such harsh retaliation.  I just think it was rough sex gone bad.

Yeah, the conspiracy theories are getting thicker than smoke.  The reality is most likely that this is just what it appears to be--a spoiled kid and his self-concerned buddies who raped a tourist.  If Nat is anything like her mother, she fought them off, and they silenced her.  I'm sure that explains Joran's "what do you want me to do about it?" attitude.  Joran's sense of entitlement would lead in that direction.

[jane]

I work on computers and I don't think think Deepak is that sophisticated to revise internet records and he has no access to phone records.  I don't think anything was planned.  I don't think any of these bozo's (including the father) is smart enough.  Joran changes his stories more often that I change my shoes.

I definitely agree with you that Joran is an unsophisticated offender. I haven't seen enough about the other two to say.

[Tiptoes]

Unfortunately, they are going to lie until some hard evidence is introduced.  I think at this point the boys are at such odds, they should put them in a room together with some phone records and watch the sparks fly.  Produce some evidence to the weakest link.  They've already lied.

did you hear when they brought all 3 together in a room. Joran said, I called Deepak to come pick me up and deepak said "why are you lying" and then Joran said ok I called Satish.

Really?  What was Satish's response to that?

No one has said.  That's another interesting thing -- they only reveal portions of an event or conversation.  Invariably, something is left out or omitted and very seldom does anyone note this.  Odd.

What is the source of this info?

[AZLady]

Unfortunately, the legal system and law enforcement on the island also have a sense of entitlement.  They are less concerned with finding the truth than with finding the most expeditious way out of this mess.

[~TAZ_MAN~]

What is the source of this info?

Greta talked about this 3 way confrontation on fox one day last week.

[jane]

Yeah, the conspiracy theories are getting thicker than smoke.  The reality is most likely that this is just what it appears to be--a spoiled kid and his self-concerned buddies who raped a tourist.  If Nat is anything like her mother, she fought them off, and they silenced her.  I'm sure that explains Joran's "what do you want me to do about it?" attitude.  Joran's sense of entitlement would lead in that direction.

That's probably true. By the sound of the attorney, though, it sounds like the Kalpoe brothers were home too soon for them to have been involved.

[AZLady]

Unfortunately, they are going to lie until some hard evidence is introduced.  I think at this point the boys are at such odds, they should put them in a room together with some phone records and watch the sparks fly.  Produce some evidence to the weakest link.  They've already lied.

did you hear when they brought all 3 together in a room. Joran said, I called Deepak to come pick me up and deepak said "why are you lying" and then Joran said ok I called Satish.

Really?  What was Satish's response to that?

No one has said.  That's another interesting thing -- they only reveal portions of an event or conversation.  Invariably, something is left out or omitted and very seldom does anyone note this.  Odd.

What is the source of this info?

FOX reported the three were brought together in a room and questioned, and this was the example they used to show how the questioning was done.

[~TAZ_MAN~]

Yeah, the conspiracy theories are getting thicker than smoke.  The reality is most likely that this is just what it appears to be--a spoiled kid and his self-concerned buddies who raped a tourist.  If Nat is anything like her mother, she fought them off, and they silenced her.  I'm sure that explains Joran's "what do you want me to do about it?" attitude.  Joran's sense of entitlement would lead in that direction.

That's probably true. By the sound of the attorney, though, it sounds like the Kalpoe brothers were home too soon for them to have been involved.

Thats what attorneys are supposed to say.  They could have been home but if they dropped Nat and Joran off at 1:30 or so why did it take them an hour to get home.  There is nothing in this time frame.

[AZLady]

Yeah, the conspiracy theories are getting thicker than smoke.  The reality is most likely that this is just what it appears to be--a spoiled kid and his self-concerned buddies who raped a tourist.  If Nat is anything like her mother, she fought them off, and they silenced her.  I'm sure that explains Joran's "what do you want me to do about it?" attitude.  Joran's sense of entitlement would lead in that direction.

That's probably true. By the sound of the attorney, though, it sounds like the Kalpoe brothers were home too soon for them to have been involved.

I don't know.  It's hard to get a good "feel" for the Kalpoes.  We have so little on them, especially the youngest.

[jane]

Unfortunately, the legal system and law enforcement on the island also have a sense of entitlement.  They are less concerned with finding the truth than with finding the most expeditious way out of this mess.

That does seem to have been the attitude to begin with. Maybe all this partial info that keeps being leaked straight from the jail cells is for the appeasment of the Americans. I hope not.

[~TAZ_MAN~]

I don't know.  It's hard to get a good "feel" for the Kalpoes.  We have so little on them, especially the youngest.

You and I have very similar view points regarding this.  Sure about certain aspects and not so sure about others.

[igsigs]

Unfortunately, the legal system and law enforcement on the island also have a sense of entitlement.  They are less concerned with finding the truth than with finding the most expeditious way out of this mess.

so true

[AZLady]

Unfortunately, the legal system and law enforcement on the island also have a sense of entitlement.  They are less concerned with finding the truth than with finding the most expeditious way out of this mess.

That does seem to have been the attitude to begin with. Maybe all this partial info that keeps being leaked straight from the jail cells is for the appeasment of the Americans. I hope not.

I do believe they are trying to "appease" and the reality is that the family does not appreciate being placated.  They want truth--and that's a slippery thing in the Carribean.

[Tiptoes]

FOX reported the three were brought together in a room and questioned, and this was the example they used to show how the questioning was done.

That is odd.  Especially since Satish was not the one who received the text message.  It was Deepak who received the text message, right?  Why would Joran agree to change his story that quickly?

[AZLady]

I don't know.  It's hard to get a good "feel" for the Kalpoes.  We have so little on them, especially the youngest.

You and I have very similar view points regarding this.  Sure about certain aspects and not so sure about others.

Yes.  I think many people forget to use their good old horse sense about most things.  And when there isn't enough information, be honest enough to say "I don't know."