RBN #28 6/26/05 Sunday Evening

[TTownMike]

I was just thinking along the lines of that being considered discrimination towards Joran. I would think all Deans wouldn't allow him to attend, but then again there is the discrimination factor.

You mean like a minority gambler or something?

I don't know that th deans would keep him out but the student body is a whole nuther questeurn!

[Kkial]

Hannie,,,did you see the article in Dutch paper today?   I think somebody posted it earlier today,,, de telegraf ....or something like thal

[writenow]

I was just thinking along the lines of that being considered discrimination towards Joran. I would think all Deans wouldn't allow him to attend, but then again there is the discrimination factor.

You mean like a minority gambler or something?

Umm no...I mean like an Arubian trying to attend a US college, that has no criminal record. Only a suspect. Big differenc between the two,.

He's not an American. He can't sue for discrimination. Colleges don't have to take foreign students. As a matter of fact, border patrol can make it very uncomfortable for him to ever enter this country. They could require mandatory strip searches every time he enters, hold him up for hours interrogating him, then refuse him entry. He's a threat to homeland security. they'd flag his name and he'd get stopped every time.

[TTownMike]

Like Mark Furman said tonight. The simple fact that the boys made up the story about dropping her off at the Holiday Inn.

Why did they have to make that story up?

Why is it so hard to get the truth (from him or them) once this lie has been exposed?

This island is very scary to me if they can't figure this thing out.

If nothing incriminating to hide, they should be spillin it by now!  Them amigo(s) is hidin sumpin they did thats real bad! Sotaspeak!

[writenow]

I was just thinking along the lines of that being considered discrimination towards Joran. I would think all Deans wouldn't allow him to attend, but then again there is the discrimination factor.

You mean like a minority gambler or something?

I don't know that th deans would keep him out but the student body is a whole nuther questeurn!

I'm sure Mr. Macho would love a crack at those student bodies.

[~TAZ_MAN~]

I was just thinking along the lines of that being considered discrimination towards Joran. I would think all Deans wouldn't allow him to attend, but then again there is the discrimination factor.

You mean like a minority gambler or something?

Umm no...I mean like an Arubian trying to attend a US college, that has no criminal record. Only a suspect. Big differenc between the two,.

He's not an American. He can't sue for discrimination. Colleges don't have to take foreign students. As a matter of fact, border patrol can make it very uncomfortable for him to ever enter this country. They could require mandatory strip searches every time he enters, hold him up for hours interrogating him, then refuse him entry. He's a threat to homeland security. they'd flag his name and he'd get stopped every time.

Hed have better luck attending the University of Iraq

[TTownMike]

I have been reading alot but I don't know your opinion about a couple of questions.
Has there been a concensus of opinion that you think PVDS already knew that Natalee was missing when Beth and Jug went to his home that first morning?  No

Did PVDS go with the Twittys to the casino or did he stay at home?  yes

If you think PVDS didn't know Natalee was missing do you think he just told the Twittys that Joran was at the casino to stall the Twittys so he would have time to talk to Joran since he knew Joran was actually at home? This would have given him time to ask Joran what all of this was about..  Yes

no  he was with them at the casino and tehn went back with them and joran to the HI and thenback to the house all the while interrupting Joran and reminding him he did not need to speak at all.  The cops were doing the questioning at first.  this was a very threatening situation seen from the persprecive of a lawyer,prosecutor and judge.  he was right but he could not control the sitation and it spiraled ot of hand into a majot pissing contest,  Paul was right but he did not offer an alternative.

theyall went back to the house and then back to the Hi after PVDS got a call for Joran telling him he was at home//  another one too,,,it was PVDS told Deepak that he did not have to talk,,,NOT Deepak telling Joran he did not have to talk,,,for what this is worth

 

somebody in the family,  "jug",  i think, described both paul and deepak telling joran he did not have to say anything while he blabbed on.  to me that was sociopathic behaviour thinking he can talk (lie) his way out.  so why did he not use his charm on Beth too?

LOL!  He said "sociopathic"!  LOL!

[iquitos]

nite monkeys.  it has been tense.  guess i won't make my thousand today but getting close.  then i can retire.  i will never get sucked into this whirlpool again  it is worse than a full time job.

[Kkial]

Obviously they don't care about the "Ugly Americans" except for our money,,,again want to attend out schools,,,,,,,,,If they do not solve this case,  I will never go there again,,,,will absolutely become a isolationist.
Make it at home and Keep it at home and I think a lot of peole feel the same way...just won't admit it.  We are getting a raw deal,,,

Nobody wants to convict a innocent person,,,NEVER,,,,,but we do want JUSTICE for Natalee!

[igsigs]

If you think PVDS didn't know Natalee was missing do you think he just told the Twittys that Joran was at the casino to stall the Twittys so he would have time to talk to Joran since he knew Joran was actually at home?  This would have given him time to ask Joran what all of this was about..[/quote]

You very posibly jes answered your own question![/quote]

:::DING DING DING:::: Go Belle!!![/quote]

 What a missed opportunity that night was! If the LE on the scene would have been more agressive they could have questioned and taken a full statement from Joren that night. right in front of their eyes they have 2 of the 3 people who were last seen with a missing girl. and the story that they tell is raising such suspicion with the girl's family that they almost come to blows and have to be seperated.

[HannieC]

Mark Fuhrman?? You got to be kidding me??


Wasn`t he spit out 11 years ago b/c he lied on the stand?? Oeps....

Is he now the most credible source there? jeezz that`s what I mean that you can make bucks in the US, not in Holland tho we are to small for that
lmao sorry.. Not to generalize people please  JMHO

[SoccerDad]

We believe in evidence hard evidence and we don`t try to ruin peoples lives with speculations...

The Dutch culture is wonderful--the people we've met are awesome! But you have to admit, Hannie, that many, many legal experts in the Netherlands are "speculating" about Joran. Not saying he's guilty or innocent, but we know he's a liar at least.

[clevfan1234]

The owner of the internet cafe is Angelina Reppas.

we don't know she own it, we know she is his boss

[~TAZ_MAN~]

Any locals online that can tell me about the area between Boca Prine and Indian Cove?

[KerinTX]

Just rambling, but mostly thinking of the possibility that Natalee was in Joran's room for a time -- and for a time period longer than we might've contemplated.

I had those thoughts too...with all the lack of supervision that apparently went on IMO...but the thought is too much to bear so I put her back on the beach

[Belle]

Seems like they know the Dutch law "no body -- no crime".  Just keep quite and hope no body is found.  Or if they know Natalee is off the island they just hope no one talks.

I just can't believe the boys and VDSloots aren't bending over backward to tell all they know if they know that they didn't harm Natalee.  The boys will serve jail time for lying but at least they are alive.

Has anyone searched all the hotel rooms?

[writenow]

writenow wrote:

I'm sure the Netherlands won't have any problem allowing him to attend their universities. He'll be free to prey on unsuspecting girls again, but I think it's more acceptable there.

But now Daddy may be looking for a new line of work. Of course, if the Hak. website is to be believed, the justice department in Holland wasn't thrilled with his work and was looking for a reason to get rid of him. He may have to go back to teaching. Nothing like working for years to have a career go down the drain.

But if they move back to Holland I feel sorry for Valentijn and his little American girlfriend Natalie. That'll be the end of their cute little love story. It's really kinda sad.

There's something kinda weird. Reports out of Holland say Papa v.d.Sloot has been in Aruba 17 years, but the mother and kids have been there 10 years (what both Val. & Joran's websites said). For 7 years Paul was living alone on the island? Does Lorenzo factor in anywhere here?

And you know why writenow? Because we don`t judge people by there outfit or what we think we know what they must be!! We are by a long shot not so judgemental...We believe in evidence hard evidence and we don`t try to ruin peoples lives with speculations... I`m sorry but maybe that`s why so much american people come to visit us and like our attitide and that of the antillens and aruba... thought about that? :wink:  :lol:

Actually, what I've found on this board lately is that the Dutch, either ex-pat or native, are fiercely defending their own -- Joran, his dad & the Dutch authorities in Aruba -- because it somehow reflects on their national identity and pride. And those same people have been attacking a grieving family, a missing girl and her friends, desperately trying to find ways that a Dutch national would not be responsible for kidnapping an American. So I think you are VERY judgmental, you just aren't when it comes to your own kind.

[TTownMike]

nite monkeys.  it has been tense.  guess i won't make my thousand today but getting close.  then i can retire.  i will never get sucked into this whirlpool again  it is worse than a full time job.

Night, inquitos!

[Kkial]

Just rambling, but mostly thinking of the possibility that Natalee was in Joran's room for a time -- and for a time period longer than we might've contemplated.

I had those thoughts too...with all the lack of supervision that apparently went on IMO...but the thought is too much to bear so I put her back on the beach

Kerin I think Beth felt that she had been there,,,can't remember exactly what she said

[dl3fan]

Just rambling, but mostly thinking of the possibility that Natalee was in Joran's room for a time -- and for a time period longer than we might've contemplated.

I had those thoughts too...with all the lack of supervision that apparently went on IMO...but the thought is too much to bear so I put her back on the beach

I've often thought this also but I imagine if she was there for longer she would have been disposed of, or sent away, before he got home from school that day.  Would be kinda creepy to have a POTENTIALLY dead body in your room for that long.