RBN #29 6/27/05 Monday

[dragonfly]

sorry guys for being stubborn , joran is innocent . Although it would be a big breaktrough for the case if it would be the body of natalee. I doubt it it is going to be her body.

He's only Innocent Until proven GUILTY!   I beleive the prosecutors have alot more info,. on Joran than we're aware of.  With the hearings, they only have to show a small amount of evidence against him to retain him. With each appearance, they show alittle more.  I'm willing to bet, they have alot of info. that would increase its value with a body. We'll wait and see......
Prayers for Natalee!

According to Satish's attorney at the last hearing, they still have only the same evidence that they started with. Nothing.

Which sounds to me exactly like what every defense attorney says.  What else can they say?  "They have a ton of evidence against my client but I think with luck on our side we may win."  A defense attorney would say nothing else but "there is no evidence".  And remember that he is the attorney for Satish, and there very well could be little evidence against him, but his lie keeps him detained.

[Lausa]

If a body has been in the water 30 days, wouldn't decomposition have set in to the point that identification would most likely  be made by dental records, dna testing?

[Terry]

I have reasons to believe he is innocent.

Main reasons
lack of facial scars on his face .
To short a timeframe 2 hours 40 min to kill and move the body.
Natalee has not been killed on the night of may 30 th but later .
And I have a suspicion that the real person involved left messages on this blog.
 

No scars on his FACE, but what about elsewhere?

Almost 3 hours is a long time...

Who might have posted? This info should be forwarded to the proper authorities, IMO.

No way, no way in hell. Well I hope.  

[boxopen]

European Space Agency satellite image of Aruba: The area covers the Lago de Maracaibo and the Guajira and Paraguand peninsulas in Venezuela, with the island of Aruba (top middle) and Curacao in the Caribbean.
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http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/envisat/Venezuela_MER_FR_Orbit05318_20030307_20030324.jpg

[bendex]

Lets wait and see what they dig up from quarry. If it is  natalee I am death wrong.

But I think many leeds have been generated on this Blog and been investigated  due to public demand .

[alpha_fruit]

candygirl for you....

[westiehouse1]

Here is an interesting post on Riehl......just a post.


I can tell you that their is a story that she was taken back to his apartment. It is believed she was not cohearant enough to understand what was going on and believed she was being taken back to the hotel. Probably drugged. She had asked to go back the hotel directly form the Lighthouse. It is thought that never happened.
Posted by: Justin T | June 27, 2005 01:23 PM

[da wench]

I have reasons to believe he is innocent.

Main reasons
lack of facial scars on his face .
To short a timeframe 2 hours 40 min to kill and move the body.
Natalee has not been killed on the night of may 30 th but later .
And I have a suspicion that the real person involved left messages on this blog.
 

sorry guys for being stubborn , joran is innocent . Although it would be a big breaktrough for the case if it would be the body of natalee. I doubt it it is going to be her body.

Well unless YOU did something to Natalee.....how could you possibly KNOW that Joran is innocent??  I would just like to know what makes you so sure?

Really now?  I would be interested in reading those posts?  Are they from bendex?  lol

[Lausa]

European Space Agency satellite image of Aruba:
(http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/envisat/Venezuela_MER_FR_Orbit05318_20030307_20030324.jpg

That is way cool!

[littletxlady]

Lets wait and see what they dig up from quarry. If it is  natalee I am death wrong.

But I think many leeds have been generated on this Blog and been investigated  due to public demand .

bendex
I second the motion. I agree with you on most of your points but I am hoping she is still alive. I think we have been on the same page since the beginning, if I am reading you right.

[candygirl]

candygirl for you....

thank-you soooo very much, you're sweet!  Altho' it was back in '82, he was only 25 and a father of a 4mth old.  Sorry to get off topic, just wanted to make the point that the parents should nOT see her at all!
if this comes to be...Natalee

[~TAZ_MAN~]

La Cavalier:

Most of the cases you mentioned regarding the dogs were ones where Live scent dogs were used..ie:  dogs searching for one persons particular scent.. The dogs used by equisearch are cadaver dogs trained in recognizing any decomposing body and the gases emitted during this process.

[pinemeadows]

Does anyone know if the divers are still down???  

Teo left a message I didn't quite understand...he was translating a few minutes ago.

It's been awhile - just wondering.

[candygirl]

Here is an interesting post on Riehl......just a post.


I can tell you that their is a story that she was taken back to his apartment. It is believed she was not cohearant enough to understand what was going on and believed she was being taken back to the hotel. Probably drugged. She had asked to go back the hotel directly form the Lighthouse. It is thought that never happened.
Posted by: Justin T | June 27, 2005 01:23 PM

OMG! whoever is responsible, are ANIMALS!

[candygirl]

If a body has been in the water 30 days, wouldn't decomposition have set in to the point that identification would most likely  be made by dental records, dna testing?

Yes DNA and dental records are used, but they take time. I meant for any kind of immediate (assummable) identification would be other's mentioned earlier.

[spab]

Does anyone know if the divers are still down???  

Teo left a message I didn't quite understand...he was translating a few minutes ago.

It's been awhile - just wondering.

..arubagirl had posted a message earlier that the divers were due back in
the water at 5:45 (Aruba time)

[spab]

If a body has been in the water 30 days, wouldn't decomposition have set in to the point that identification would most likely  be made by dental records, dna testing?

Yes DNA and dental records are used, but they take time. I meant for any kind of immediate (assummable) identification would be other's mentioned earlier.

.. I would assume her hair would still be intact. That would be a fairly
telling sign IMO..

[klaasend]

Here is an interesting post on Riehl......just a post.


I can tell you that their is a story that she was taken back to his apartment. It is believed she was not cohearant enough to understand what was going on and believed she was being taken back to the hotel. Probably drugged. She had asked to go back the hotel directly form the Lighthouse. It is thought that never happened.
Posted by: Justin T | June 27, 2005 01:23 PM

This same poster appears to be in Aruba.  He was asked if the family was aware of the "hit" at the quarry, etc.  He said that the family has asked that nothing be announced to the media unless there's a positive identification.

[SunnyinTX]

bendex
I second the motion. I agree with you on most of your points but I am hoping she is still alive. I think we have been on the same page since the beginning, if I am reading you right.[/quote]

What page is that may I ask? What do you 2 seem to know that the rest of us don't?


"bendex"]I have reasons to believe he is innocent.

Main reasons
lack of facial scars on his face .  - I really don't see the what this is supposed to mean?....so he has no scars on his face??  Are you saying Natalee would have scratched him on his face?  Perhaps....perhaps not....hs is a big guy and she a little lady....

To short a timeframe 2 hours 40 min to kill and move the body.  - huh....why do you think this...I know of several place within 3-4 miles of my home that I could hide a body...
Natalee has not been killed on the night of may 30 th but later . - now just how in the world do you know this??? Were you involved?  And I have a suspicion that the real person involved left messages on this blog. HUH?????  If this is the truth and not merely an attention getter,  ....if you beleive this have you reported your suspecions to authorities??  I am sorry but your reasons have lots of holes as far as I am concerned.....

[ajmac57]

If a body has been in the water 30 days, wouldn't decomposition have set in to the point that identification would most likely  be made by dental records, dna testing?

Yes DNA and dental records are used, but they take time. I meant for any kind of immediate (assummable) identification would be other's mentioned earlier.

.. I would assume her hair would still be intact. That would be a fairly
telling sign IMO..

Is this fresh water or sea water? How deep is the water?