RBN #29 6/27/05 Monday

[Dallas Also]

Sorry, been out for an hour and catching up...so what was with the "hit" by the dogs and  then divers? Did this pan out? was it false and never happened? is it ongoing? do we simply not know?...tks anyone...

gaijin, the news broke about 12:40 Eastern Daylight Time that the dogs had made a hit at a quarry. There are three quarries on the island, and there has been some debate about which one.  

Divers were sent in.  The MSM was asked to chill, not make big announcements.  Even so, the Dutch media tried to press in, even tried to get into the water for photos.  A small press conference was held to re-emphasize that the media had to stay back and let the dogs and divers pursue the hit.

[Terry]

Here is an interesting post on Riehl......just a post.


I can tell you that their is a story that she was taken back to his apartment. It is believed she was not cohearant enough to understand what was going on and believed she was being taken back to the hotel. Probably drugged. She had asked to go back the hotel directly form the Lighthouse. It is thought that never happened.
Posted by: Justin T | June 27, 2005 01:23 PM

This is what I've always believed... I think she did refuse to get out of the car, just like Deepak stated. (because she knew something was up) She wasn't at the hoteland she knew it.

No, wasn't that when she wouldn't get out of the car, when her friends asked her to? According to the DPAK email?

Well it was also stated that she told Joran to leave her alone or something to that effect. I am wondering if the statements are correct just the locations were lies. Just trying to figure this out. You are right, though, I do believe he said it was at C&C's that she refused to get out. Wouldn't you think that someone from MB would have come out and said something about that by now? Maybe not.

Well, imo, this is probably when she wouldn't get out, but due to all the lies, and misinfo, who really knows anymore.
I do not think we should boycott Aruba, but storm it. I no longer know what to believe. And it makes me wanna puff puff pass.  

[ajmac57]

Is this fresh water or sea water? How deep is the water?

It would be brackish water - this water contains sea salt but not as much as the open sea.

Will brackish water speed or slow down decomposition?
If this is deep water, the water tempature could be cold, I know cold water will slow down the decomposition.

[gaijin]

Sorry, been out for an hour and catching up...so what was with the "hit" by the dogs and  then divers? Did this pan out? was it false and never happened? is it ongoing? do we simply not know?...tks anyone...

gaijin, the news broke about 12:40 Eastern Daylight Time that the dogs had made a hit at a quarry. There are three quarries on the island, and there has been some debate about which one.  

Divers were sent in.  The MSM was asked to chill, not make big announcements.  Even so, the Dutch media tried to press in, even tried to get into the water for photos.  A small press conference was held to re-emphasize that the media had to stay back and let the dogs and divers pursue the hit.

many tks...

[da wench]

Natalee has not been killed on the night of may 30 th but later. And I have a suspicion that the real person involved left messages on this blog.

Was it you?

I would really like to know who on this blog you think is involved here...or are we leaving it up to LE to discover??

[m.a. johnson]

I cannot speculate to the actual depth, just going by prior information gathered earlier in the day. I think that the depth that was being talked about would be less than 200'.

>>The quarry is very deep.

OK, how deep is 'very deep'? 200 feet is pretty 'very deep' as far as a diver is concerned.

[Vander F]

allas Also

Posts: 317
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 5:46 pm    Post subject:   
"Van Der Sloot translates to "Van of the Ditch" in English. This has probably been mentioned on this board, I wasn't sure..."

Sorry, 'van der Sloot' translates as ' from the the ditch', coming from: *John* 'living close to the ditch'.
I'm Dutch native, I'm sure.

[Kshe78]

Here is an interesting post on Riehl......just a post.


I can tell you that their is a story that she was taken back to his apartment. It is believed she was not cohearant enough to understand what was going on and believed she was being taken back to the hotel. Probably drugged. She had asked to go back the hotel directly form the Lighthouse. It is thought that never happened.
Posted by: Justin T | June 27, 2005 01:23 PM

This is what I've always believed... I think she did refuse to get out of the car, just like Deepak stated. (because she knew something was up) She wasn't at the hoteland she knew it.

Plays right into my theory last night that I don't think they went to the Marriott Beach.  I didn't figure out WHERE they went (though I've suspected the apartment), but I don't think it was the Marriott Beach.

[inthepacific]

That is good to hear...I was worried it might be too deep for the divers to get right down to the bottom.

I cannot speculate to the actual depth, just going by prior information gathered earlier in the day. I think that the depth that was being talked about would be less than 200'.

>>The quarry is very deep.

OK, how deep is 'very deep'? 200 feet is pretty 'very deep' as far as a diver is concerned.

[Ting]

I think Steve Croes' attorney needs to have a chat with Fox News.

Twice today I have heard them say that Steve "lied to police to cover for his friend," however according to the attorney, he heard Deepak say something, reported that to the authorities, and was arrested.

I don't know what the laws regarding any civil recourse he may have are in Aruba, but at the very least his lawyer could get Fox to stop maligning his name.

[dl3fan]

Is this fresh water or sea water? How deep is the water?

It would be brackish water - this water contains sea salt but not as much as the open sea.

Will brackish water speed or slow down decomposition?
If this is deep water, the water tempature could be cold, I know cold water will slow down the decomposition.

I would venture to guess that the water in aruba is not cold due to their warm climate.  Brackish water should preserve any findings more so than salt water.

[Dallas Also]

Is this fresh water or sea water? How deep is the water?

It would be brackish water - this water contains sea salt but not as much as the open sea.

Will brackish water speed or slow down decomposition?
If this is deep water, the water tempature could be cold, I know cold water will slow down the decomposition.

Salt preserves things.

[DT]

Sorry, been out for an hour and catching up...so what was with the "hit" by the dogs and  then divers? Did this pan out? was it false and never happened? is it ongoing? do we simply not know?...tks anyone...

gaijin, the news broke about 12:40 Eastern Daylight Time that the dogs had made a hit at a quarry. There are three quarries on the island, and there has been some debate about which one.  

Divers were sent in.  The MSM was asked to chill, not make big announcements.  Even so, the Dutch media tried to press in, even tried to get into the water for photos.  A small press conference was held to re-emphasize that the media had to stay back and let the dogs and divers pursue the hit.

many tks...

I'd hasten to add that none of this has been confimred.  And arubgirl said that she spoke with one of the members of the texas team who told her nothing had been found.  

Remember folks, this comes from Dan Riehl, the guy who still though Steve Croes was an EMT long after it had been confimred he wasn't.

[igsigs]

I have reasons to believe he is innocent.

Main reasons
lack of facial scars on his face .
To short a timeframe 2 hours 40 min to kill and move the body.
Natalee has not been killed on the night of may 30 th but later .
And I have a suspicion that the real person involved left messages on this blog.
 


What's that common phrase? K.I.S.S?
If Nat is alive, the 3 amigos do not tell that initial lie because she can disprove it. If they know Nat is not alive they can lie all they want. And they did.

[Belle]

We have several quarries in our area--lime rock used as a base to build highways was mined for years.  These are fresh water. No I'm not in Aruba.  They are stocked with fish and the water is very clean for swimming.  These are about 35-40 feet deep --how far the rock could be mined from.  Cars have been found in the one by the highway--detected when oil was seen floating on top of the water.  In time nature has reclaimed them-very beautiful--not like the picture of the one posted in Aruba.

[absolut]

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[arubagirl]

Which pictuere was posted?

[inthepacific]

Sorry, been out for an hour and catching up...so what was with the "hit" by the dogs and  then divers? Did this pan out? was it false and never happened? is it ongoing? do we simply not know?...tks anyone...

gaijin, the news broke about 12:40 Eastern Daylight Time that the dogs had made a hit at a quarry. There are three quarries on the island, and there has been some debate about which one.  

Divers were sent in.  The MSM was asked to chill, not make big announcements.  Even so, the Dutch media tried to press in, even tried to get into the water for photos.  A small press conference was held to re-emphasize that the media had to stay back and let the dogs and divers pursue the hit.

many tks...

I'd hasten to add that none of this has been confimred.  And arubgirl said that she spoke with one of the members of the texas team who told her nothing had been found.  

Remember folks, this comes from Dan Riehl, the guy who still though Steve Croes was an EMT long after it had been confimred he wasn't.

LOL, yes we must be careful about this 'so called breaking news', it could not be fact at all from the Riehl site. This could be why there has been no report from the MSM today regarding this.

[m.a. johnson]

Here is an interesting post on Riehl......just a post.


I can tell you that their is a story that she was taken back to his apartment. It is believed she was not cohearant enough to understand what was going on and believed she was being taken back to the hotel. Probably drugged. She had asked to go back the hotel directly form the Lighthouse. It is thought that never happened.
Posted by: Justin T | June 27, 2005 01:23 PM

This is what I've always believed... I think she did refuse to get out of the car, just like Deepak stated. (because she knew something was up) She wasn't at the hoteland she knew it.[/quote

Plays right into my theory last night that I don't think they went to the Marriott Beach.  I didn't figure out WHERE they went (though I've suspected the apartment), but I don't think it was the Marriott Beach.

I was thinking along the same lines as you as one of my own possible theories.  This has possibly been nothing more than an elaborate smokescreen to compromise investigation.

[gaijin]

Sorry, been out for an hour and catching up...so what was with the "hit" by the dogs and  then divers? Did this pan out? was it false and never happened? is it ongoing? do we simply not know?...tks anyone...

gaijin, the news broke about 12:40 Eastern Daylight Time that the dogs had made a hit at a quarry. There are three quarries on the island, and there has been some debate about which one.  

Divers were sent in.  The MSM was asked to chill, not make big announcements.  Even so, the Dutch media tried to press in, even tried to get into the water for photos.  A small press conference was held to re-emphasize that the media had to stay back and let the dogs and divers pursue the hit.

many tks...

I'd hasten to add that none of this has been confimred.  And arubgirl said that she spoke with one of the members of the texas team who told her nothing had been found.  

Remember folks, this comes from Dan Riehl, the guy who still though Steve Croes was an EMT long after it had been confimred he wasn't.

Actually , this is part of what confused me. To listen to ArubaGirl, and fit together all the crosscurrents, it sounded as thought there were a ground search today and a water search , and I wasnt clear as to which ArubaGirl was referring to when she said that "nothing had been found". And whether that implied that the RieldWorld "reports" were "false" or mislead. Probably, in truth, none of us know.