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« Reply #200 on: June 27, 2005, 09:58:47 PM »

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Help me out guys...I need posters that blamed Natalee.  I am having to justify myself.  Who were the people who talked about the drinking and Natalee's clothes?



   if you go to the SM home page, and click on "comments" beneath the various updates, there are a number of posts that have been really trashing Natalee. I don't want to repeat some of what was said.
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« Reply #201 on: June 27, 2005, 09:58:49 PM »

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So, help me out here.  Did Steve Croes just come forward on his own, out of the blue to lie for Deepak?  Or, did Deepak ask him to lie?  This is really important, IMO.  If Deepak asked him to lie, then I would "guess" Deepak is somehow involved.  Otherwise why would he ask his friend to cover for Joran?

And, why would Croes just go to the police with a lie?  This does not compute?


Thats the point, I dont think we know anything regarding everything that incriminated these guys.  The story keeps changing as to why everyone got arrested and who said what. I dont think it will be known when and if someone is charged and Natalie is found.

Example:  The rumor Croes shipped a 100 lb box to South America. Thats pretty funny.


That is funny!

One more thing, is that Jug confirmed tonight that Deepak was there with Joran when the family showed up.  Another report had pooh poohed that.  But, why would Deepak be with Joran to offer support if he wasn't invovled?  Yikes.  What time was that?
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« Reply #202 on: June 27, 2005, 09:58:49 PM »

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Ok here goes.


I have gotten from 5 seperate sources, yes one is fox the phone, and text timeline. It has to have been leaked in the last 24 hours. Possibly because PVDS got out. The outcry of the info would get him back in.


Why not post the info you received?
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« Reply #203 on: June 27, 2005, 09:59:14 PM »

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I have been out for several hours - wcould some one fill me in on the quarry search - thank you


Sandy, this is what we know from Tim Miller on tv tonight:  The dogs got a slight hit in/by a lake.  They are going back tomorrow.  They have also identified bodies of water near the Kalpoe's home, so that will also be an area to be searched.

Nothing else new really...Beth was on NG tonight, as was Tim Miller.  Mr. Miller appears to be a compassionate man who puts his money where his mouth is - he will stay there with Beth as long as she wants to stay there.  Beth seemed as well as can be expected, and better than in recent days, IMO.
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« Reply #204 on: June 27, 2005, 09:59:27 PM »

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Ok here goes.

I believe the brothers story of dropping JVDS and NAT at Marriott Beach. Something happens (no idea if she was predrugged, drugged at all or killed by JVDS, or some other means.) JVDS freaks calls dad. Dad comes with now the 2nd car she is in (in whatever condition) dad either has JVDS help him or takes JVDS home and disposes of the body (very well I might add) JVDS makes sure that people at school and the brothers are on the same page about HI etc. But he doesn't tell them what happened either.

The emails we read could very well be that cover in writing.

The only thing that brings me back to this is the following,

I have gotten from 5 seperate sources, yes one is fox the phone, and text timeline. It has to have been leaked in the last 24 hours. Possibly because PVDS got out. The outcry of the info would get him back in.


SO SPILL THE BEANS ON THE PHONE AND TEXT TIMELINES....PLEASE!!!!!! Exclamation
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« Reply #205 on: June 27, 2005, 10:00:47 PM »

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The attorney for one of the brothers said that Joran called at 2:40AM to say that he was walking home and leaving Natalee on the beach.

Does anyone really believe that this was the purpose of this call?  Don't people sleep in Aruba on a Sunday night/ Monday morning when they have school and jobs to get up for Monday morning, so that such an inconsequential call would be unbelievally irritating?  How many of you or your teenagers get calls at 2 in the morning that are not serious emergencies?

Joran was calling for another ride for himself and a dead Natalee.  

The follow up text message 40 minutes later alleging that he was now home safely is classic as a coverup, and makes the first call look even more obviously a call for help.  Would Satish or Deepak really give a rats ass to know that Joran got home safely, and is Aruba so dangerous that there would be a question that one could not walk safely from the Marriott to Jorans home?

Give me a break.


I doubt guys call guys to let them know they got home ok...sounds rather femine and "planned"  thats why I dont believe the bogus got home at such and such and feel Deepak has more to do with this than we think.


True. I can think of 50 better stories concerning the 2 calls that the lawyer could have said. Yet he went public with this one? these boys are the worst liars i have ever heard. LE must be going crazy.
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« Reply #206 on: June 27, 2005, 10:01:01 PM »

My hunch is that the brothers dropped off Joran and Nat at the Mariott beach, Joran had given her a rape drug, which led her to have some kind of reaction (asthma attack or similar?) and she died as a result.  He panicked, phoned the brothers to get them to give him a lift home, they refused, so he phoned his father, who helped him get rid of the body and come up with a cover story, and told him to send the text message.  That is pure speculation, but what else can one do right now?
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« Reply #207 on: June 27, 2005, 10:01:21 PM »

Anyone know where the Kalpoe's home is located?
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« Reply #208 on: June 27, 2005, 10:02:06 PM »

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Someone wrote me about these posts and I forgot to search for them.  Weren't they posted the other night, late?  Can you direct me to them?  Are they on their own thread?


I'd be willing to bet that these posts were made by four or five individuals just looking for attention & to divert our attention.[/quote]I asked about them on this forum wondering who in the world these people were and why they were "out there" instead of "in here."  That's where I found the crazy post by some guy talking about seeing Natalee walk into the ocean (I'M NOT SAYING THAT, this guy was just spouting off I guess.)
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« Reply #209 on: June 27, 2005, 10:02:29 PM »

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Help me out guys...I need posters that blamed Natalee.  I am having to justify myself.  Who were the people who talked about the drinking and Natalee's clothes?



   if you go to the SM home page, and click on "comments" beneath the various updates, there are a number of posts that have been really trashing Natalee. I don't want to repeat some of what was said.


GUY WITH DOG:
Here you go...
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« Reply #210 on: June 27, 2005, 10:02:58 PM »

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Ok here goes.

I believe the brothers story of dropping JVDS and NAT at Marriott Beach. Something happens (no idea if she was predrugged, drugged at all or killed by JVDS, or some other means.) JVDS freaks calls dad. Dad comes with now the 2nd car she is in (in whatever condition) dad either has JVDS help him or takes JVDS home and disposes of the body (very well I might add) JVDS makes sure that people at school and the brothers are on the same page about HI etc. But he doesn't tell them what happened either.

The emails we read could very well be that cover in writing.

The only thing that brings me back to this is the following,

I have gotten from 5 seperate sources, yes one is fox the phone, and text timeline. It has to have been leaked in the last 24 hours. Possibly because PVDS got out. The outcry of the info would get him back in.

Your theory of events makes more sense to me than any other.  I hope they find her body.
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« Reply #211 on: June 27, 2005, 10:03:02 PM »

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I always was wondering why there are two types of message boards...can maybe a moderator explain.  

To Geraldo....it really creeped me out when he fixed the DJs mothers hair...ewwwwwwwwwww!


One is attached to Tom and Red's blogs entrys as comments. The other is the forum extention. (here) We are working to incorporate one directly with the other, thanks for the question.
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« Reply #212 on: June 27, 2005, 10:03:04 PM »

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Current version of this story (not suggesting it is the true or last) has it that Steve Croes overheard Deepak on the phone at the internet cafe and went to the police with what he heard.  He does't know Deepak.[/quote]

Actually, the lady from Current Affair on Geraldo said that they (SC and Deepak) were friends, and that SC said that he didn't realize how big of a deal it was to give false information to the police to cover for his friend (which implies to me that he KNEW it was false).  SC said the lie wasn't worth trying to protect a friend.
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« Reply #213 on: June 27, 2005, 10:04:18 PM »

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Ok here goes.


I have gotten from 5 seperate sources, yes one is fox the phone, and text timeline. It has to have been leaked in the last 24 hours. Possibly because PVDS got out. The outcry of the info would get him back in.


Why not post the info you received?


It's the same as the fox info.
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« Reply #214 on: June 27, 2005, 10:04:25 PM »

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My hunch is that the brothers dropped off Joran and Nat at the Mariott beach, Joran had given her a rape drug, which led her to have some kind of reaction (asthma attack or similar?) and she died as a result.  He panicked, phoned the brothers to get them to give him a lift home, they refused, so he phoned his father, who helped him get rid of the body and come up with a cover story, and told him to send the text message.  That is pure speculation, but what else can one do right now?

 Confused Hmmmm. Plausible yet.... Wouldn't S. and D. be up front about such a scenario at this point... many days in jail, questions of murder?? What would keep them from owning up to this scenerio?
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« Reply #215 on: June 27, 2005, 10:04:26 PM »

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Someone wrote me about these posts and I forgot to search for them.  Weren't they posted the other night, late?  Can you direct me to them?  Are they on their own thread?


I'd be willing to bet that these posts were made by four or five individuals just looking for attention & to divert our attention.
I asked about them on this forum wondering who in the world these people were and why they were "out there" instead of "in here."  That's where I found the crazy post by some guy talking about seeing Natalee walk into the ocean (I'M NOT SAYING THAT, this guy was just spouting off I guess.)[/quote]

I mentioned that earlier today I could not get on this board and only the one the "cryptic guys/gals" were posting on...maybe they had the same problem and could only post there??  Possible.
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« Reply #216 on: June 27, 2005, 10:04:28 PM »

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That is funny!

One more thing, is that Jug confirmed tonight that Deepak was there with Joran when the family showed up.  Another report had pooh poohed that.  But, why would Deepak be with Joran to offer support if he wasn't invovled?  Yikes.  What time was that?


I think he said it was 5 am that they were finally called and said Joran was home from the bogus casino.  TOday is the first day I heard that Deepak was there too.  Not sure if that is verified yet.
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« Reply #217 on: June 27, 2005, 10:04:41 PM »

On Greta's show:  BHT says she has never talked to prosecutors.
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« Reply #218 on: June 27, 2005, 10:06:04 PM »

Since Joran father is a lawyer, do we know anything about some of the cases that he has handled.  Is he considered strong as a criminal attorney or has he handled many murder cases. Just a thought
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« Reply #219 on: June 27, 2005, 10:06:16 PM »

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I always was wondering why there are two types of message boards...can maybe a moderator explain.  

To Geraldo....it really creeped me out when he fixed the DJs mothers hair...ewwwwwwwwwww!


One is attached to Tom and Red's blogs entrys as comments. The other is the forum extention. (here) We are working to incorporate one directly with the other, thanks for the question.


Thanks so much - it's confusing because they are not used as comments - used more like chat/message board.
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