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« Reply #340 on: June 27, 2005, 10:59:29 PM »

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1. the van der Sloot home wasn't searched May 31? Was there a search warrant? Not that we know of, but surely it wouldn't have been hard to get one!
2. the clothes of Joran, Paulus, Deepak and Satish from that night weren't taken? How do you know that they weren't taken? We don't, although those would require a search warrant as well, right?
3. the vehicles weren't seized immediately? Good question  Smile
4. they waited 10 days? The question that everyone has been asking
5. the prosecutor has yet to interview Beth, Jug, or any of his friends who have vital information pertinent to this case? How do you know they haven't?  Greta interviewed Beth and Jug tonight, and they stated that they have not spoken to the prosecutor, and that may be something that they need to do.  They aren't sure.


My point is: The police in Aruba aren't the brightest ever, (sorry Jossy Mansur), but they are NOT NOT NOT covering up for the three boys.

You can call them inept, you can call them stupid, because imho opinion they have shown evidence of that. But they're covering up? I don't buy it. I don't see any reason to. Paul v/d S doesn't have any influence, despite his lawyer status.


Arubagirl, I'm not buying the cover-up story either, just wanted to add to the post.  I also know you don't get Fox, so you wouldn't even know that Beth and Jug just said they haven't spoke to the prosecutor.   My fear is that a lot of evidence was ruined / lost / gotten rid of in the amount of time that it took them to really start investigating.  Not a cover-up, perhaps just some inexperience.  Inexperience that could/would happen in many small towns right here in America, so please don't take offense!   Smile
 the twittys would not normally talk to the prosecutor.  any information they have would be given to the police and they have been working with the police since day one.
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« Reply #341 on: June 27, 2005, 11:00:01 PM »

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Did I hear this newspaper freak correctly, that there will be more arrests in a few days?

Don't get too excited about what he says, or any of the Aruban media, or government officials. They are required to protect Aruba's image.


Required as in "required by law" ???????  Confused
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« Reply #342 on: June 27, 2005, 11:00:57 PM »

Ok people... We have been here pouring over and spouting our rumors and concerns over this case. It's time to take action and pressure our elected officials in the USA to turn up the heat in this case.

I have just sent emails to my elected officials, the FBI and the Dutch government offices in the Netherlands and Washington DC. Tomorrow I start my telephone calls to the same, and will keep calling and resending each day.

Let's go, all of you seem fairly capable of contacting these offices as well.

Here's a head start on contacts:

http://www.netherlands-embassy.org/location.asp

 Netherlands Consulate
New Orleans, la
<edited phone numbers - no phone numbers allowed on the board>
netherlandsconsulate@mcglinchey.com (email)

 Netherlands Embassy
Washington, DC
<edited phone numbers - no phone numbers allowed on the the board>
was@minbuza.nl (email)
www.netherlands-embassy.org (website)

FBI
http://www.fbi.gov/contactus.htm

US Government contacts;
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/dbq/officials/


Start sending money to the Holloway fund or Texas Equusearch:

http://www.amsouth.com/special/natalee.asp
http://www.texasequusearch.org/index.htm

Here is more contact info:

http://www.selmatimesjournal.com/articles/2005/06/27/news/letters/letter930.txt

It's time to start loading down other networks, and not just the bloggers. Let's show the US, Aruba and the Netherlands what we are made up. Keep the pressure HIGH!!!!!!!!!!

Please post other offices to contact, along with their phone and web/email addresses.



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« Reply #343 on: June 27, 2005, 11:01:17 PM »

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another monkey, again, I can tell you, that Diario is not at ALL a fan of the current government. Please, read the articles.

WHY in the name of heavens do people think that everyone listens to the Aruban government? Please someone please explain me that.


I think it may be another one of those famous "cultural differences."

Americans are *extremely* loyal to their government, and maybe project that onto other people.
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« Reply #344 on: June 27, 2005, 11:01:49 PM »

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candy_girl, she's certainly smart enough. Her grades were top-notch in highschool. I think she graduated 4th in her year, not positive.


From all appearances, she look like a real smart one and professional.
I'm glad she keeps the important info., tight lipped personally,
I worry that too many leaks out will ruin the case.
I've also been wondering, where is all the info. the media and such getting their info., when they state; from sources close to the case?
Does this in any way hinder or hurt the case?
thanks much for your input? very appreciated.....
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« Reply #345 on: June 27, 2005, 11:02:12 PM »

WHY in the name of heavens do people think that everyone listens to the Aruban government? Please someone please explain me that

Because we listen to our gov't here, Arubagirl.  They're relating it to our own experiences in this country......
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« Reply #346 on: June 27, 2005, 11:02:26 PM »

Anna, the brothers Kalpoe were washing their car at 2 / 3am. I know that y'all have your own system, but in ours, we have to have evidence before we arrest two people for washing a car. This little thing we have, please forgive us.

And let me tell you that I'm getting BEYOND tired of having to explain ourselves over and over and over and over again to people who have not been here for more than a month at the most.

Anna, seriously, if an Aruban girl went missing in the States, would it be allright with you if the Aruban police stepped in? That'd be just peachy, right? The families plan to sue your prosecution's office, that's logical too, right?
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« Reply #347 on: June 27, 2005, 11:02:42 PM »

Icey    What do you want to be when you grow up?
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« Reply #348 on: June 27, 2005, 11:03:47 PM »

Beth and Jug seemed really demoralized by Paulus van der Sloot's release.  They were much more critical of the investigation than they have been in recent days.
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« Reply #349 on: June 27, 2005, 11:03:49 PM »

bendex check your PMs.
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« Reply #350 on: June 27, 2005, 11:04:10 PM »

So everything that your government tells you, that's accepted as fact?

Uhm, okay.
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« Reply #351 on: June 27, 2005, 11:04:18 PM »

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!. Natalee is an adult, there was no reason to believe she was a victim of a crime on 5/31.


The hell there wasn't!!!  Natalee was supposed to be back home by then.  She was a missing person on a small island, and there was every reason to believe, on strictly the reaction of Joran and Paulus, that foul play was involved.  

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I really hope that in the US, police are not permitted to enter people's homes and search in such circumstances. Maybe the law protects criminals, but it also protects innocent people. The government should not be allowed to search your property at will.


Who said anything about searching at will???  That's what a search warrant is for, and there were more than enough grounds of reasonable suspicion to issue one immediately.
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« Reply #352 on: June 27, 2005, 11:04:22 PM »

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another monkey, again, I can tell you, that Diario is not at ALL a fan of the current government. Please, read the articles.

WHY in the name of heavens do people think that everyone listens to the Aruban government? Please someone please explain me that.


Noticed some hedging in his responses to Gretta...how'm I doin', out of lurk mode.  So much to think about and nothing definite in the process.
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« Reply #353 on: June 27, 2005, 11:04:32 PM »

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BHT tonight said that Natalie's room is on the ground floor with an entry from the beach.  Does this not contradict what Dash said...she said you could only enter the room from the main lobby, over a bridge, etc.?????


I have stayed in many rooms that opened onto the beach, but you would have to climb over railing to get to the beach,,,The casino is on the 1st floor,,,IMO, think room opens, but does not walk out onto the beach
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« Reply #354 on: June 27, 2005, 11:05:09 PM »

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Jossey Mansur - Relatively sure that more arrests are coming.


Jossy Mansur sure comes accross as a prosecutioner, judge and hangman for the suspects.  Rightly or Wrongly, I wish he did not interject his personal opinion.  Im sure the FBI has a file on Jossy somewhere...and if I believe correctly one of his brothers use to be called Don.
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« Reply #355 on: June 27, 2005, 11:05:51 PM »

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edit to give up on making the quotes come out right, it is a paste of quotes within quotes[/quote]\\

That's the ticket, Ting.  A flag went up when I heard that....not that it means anything...[/quote]

Well the school kids were there for a few days, and I doubt many of them spent a lot of time in their rooms, and Mrs. Beth has been in the room for almost a month, so...[/quote]

Typing in color, b/c I can't figure out how to eliminate some of the quotes, but not others.  Anyway, People magazine did report that you could walk out from a sliding glass door, which BHT confirmed tonight.  That being said, I stay in hotels a lot, and most, especially first floor rooms, lock automatically for safety reasons.  Anybody been to the hotel that could confirm that?
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« Reply #356 on: June 27, 2005, 11:05:57 PM »

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Scott, okay, but why?


I'm sorry...what are you asking? Why what?
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« Reply #357 on: June 27, 2005, 11:06:13 PM »

News media reporters are using Cherry Picker trucks to get a view "over the fence" of the jail and get photography of VDSs and Kalpoes.

Telearuba

http://nataleeholloway.tripod.com/


Also showed videotape of scuba divers searching pond at MOKO (aka quarry at MOKO - just east of Montana - location of Joran's house - see map at http://www.arubatoday.com/week/monday/).
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« Reply #358 on: June 27, 2005, 11:06:50 PM »

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candy: 10:51 pm I have it on my computer.


it was Monkey C who asked, but thanks I was wondering that too. It's 10:11pm in iowa
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« Reply #359 on: June 27, 2005, 11:06:52 PM »

Plus, if I'm not mistaken this is the same guy who said they was chasing a car with Natalee in it.
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