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« Reply #360 on: June 27, 2005, 11:06:57 PM »

why the preferential treatment
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« Reply #361 on: June 27, 2005, 11:07:34 PM »

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So everything that your government tells you, that's accepted as fact?

Uhm, okay.


arubagirl, to my perception it is more like a very strong religious faith.
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« Reply #362 on: June 27, 2005, 11:08:24 PM »

Nancy, not the same guy, but it was one of his reporters

Companani, did Don Mansur die? I know he was very ill, but I can't seem to recall that he died.

I'm pretty sure that everyone with the last name Mansur has a file.
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« Reply #363 on: June 27, 2005, 11:08:24 PM »

I agree with Geraldo on one thing, if they don't find a body everybody walks.  I think that's the sad truth.
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« Reply #364 on: June 27, 2005, 11:09:20 PM »

Ting, wow. Just....wow
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« Reply #365 on: June 27, 2005, 11:09:29 PM »

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Ok people... We have been here pouring over and spouting our rumors and concerns over this case. It's time to take action and pressure our elected officials in the USA to turn up the heat in this case.

I have just sent emails to my elected officials, the FBI and the Dutch government offices in the Netherlands and Washington DC. Tomorrow I start my telephone calls to the same, and will keep calling and resending each day.

Let's go, all of you seem fairly capable of contacting these offices as well.

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You are so very right!!!! Let's get busy....we can't solve this case, but we sure can help find a resolution!!!!
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« Reply #366 on: June 27, 2005, 11:10:14 PM »

Oh boy...

Geraldo is now asking for O'Reilly's  help to get the Dutch Marines released to help with the search.  They are really going after LE...

Edited twice because my eyes are so tired, I can't type!
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« Reply #367 on: June 27, 2005, 11:10:17 PM »

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BHT tonight said that Natalie's room is on the ground floor with an entry from the beach.  Does this not contradict what Dash said...she said you could only enter the room from the main lobby, over a bridge, etc.?????


I have stayed in many rooms that opened onto the beach, but you would have to climb over railing to get to the beach,,,The casino is on the 1st floor,,,IMO, think room opens, but does not walk out onto the beach
 

the question is could you get in there from the beach?  I guess you could.   but then all those hundreds of mountain brook kids with night vision out there all night would see you.
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« Reply #368 on: June 27, 2005, 11:11:06 PM »

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So everything that your government tells you, that's accepted as fact?

Uhm, okay.


We get both information and disinformation from our government, imo.  Certain areas I question more than others.

(repeat question:  anyone know when Caligirl's surgery was?  Today?  Tomorrow?)
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« Reply #369 on: June 27, 2005, 11:11:50 PM »

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If the U.S. government steps in,<snip for brevity>. The U.S. government thinks they can solve this? Let them, but we're not going to help and get bashed by American(s)


ArubaGirl, don't take all the stupid comments to heart,  our media is pissing me off too.....I'm American born and raised, and this is just my own humble opinion, but the US Govt should work on some things on our own soil before stepping out into others. We have had many major screwups here and it ticks me off to see all these people (NOT specifically here, more on tv that I am referring to) yapping about how the Arubans/Dutch are not ahdnling this case properly, like WE can step in and "get it done". We have thousands upon thousands of missing-persons that have turned to cold cases. 1 happens in Aruba, and suddenly we are like "They aren't doing it right, they could be doing so much more, they should let US handle it"....yeah right!

I think truthfully, the Holloway-Twittys are just very frusrtated and using whatever means they have available out of fear that if they don't turn up the heat and raise hell, Natalee will be among these many missing people who are never found. They might be projecting some bitterness toward Aruba and using our media to do so, our media are down there fanning the flames....but for the Holloway family, they are running on pure emotion right now. Any rational person can see that there are just a lot of people jumping on the wagon due to all the media coverage this is getting.

I PRAY for Natalee's safe return and for at least her family to find her and find the truth. When I see all the mothers on tv, I feel bad for them. Steve Croes's mother made me cry as does Natalee's mom especially.

But you know, I get sort of angry at society as a whole that a very select few missing people get such large media coverage while others get none. For various reasons, if you don't have resources to hound the media or if your missing loved one is not "marketable" you don't get the coverage and the prayers of the masses and financial help etc. I'm not knocking this case, just sorta saying I hate our media. And the way some of us run our mouths lashing out at Aruba when we have so many problems here.  Idea   We should just be grateful that most Arubans have been very nice to deal with. Our media is being a MAJOR pain in the ass down there.


Thanks for saying this......
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« Reply #370 on: June 27, 2005, 11:11:56 PM »

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Ting, wow. Just....wow


My sentiments exactly, when they aren't "YIKES!"

At this point, we are getting off the topic of Natalee, and it is my hope that the subject does not enter the territory of "on-topic," but I am afraid I am not optimistic about that.
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« Reply #371 on: June 27, 2005, 11:12:29 PM »

Guys, uhm, the Dutch can only assist if the Aruban government asks them too. It's a police investigation, not pertaining to defense or foreign affairs.
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« Reply #372 on: June 27, 2005, 11:13:17 PM »

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Ting, wow. Just....wow


My sentiments exactly, when they aren't "YIKES!"

At this point, we are getting off the topic of Natalee, and it is my hope that the subject does not enter the territory of "on-topic," but I am afraid I am not optimistic about that.


Just don't diverge too far and we're cool Smile
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« Reply #373 on: June 27, 2005, 11:13:28 PM »

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I agree with Geraldo on one thing, if they don't find a body everybody walks.  I think that's the sad truth.

That's why I think Joran is holding out.  Why confess if there's a chance he can get away with it?
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« Reply #374 on: June 27, 2005, 11:14:02 PM »

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Sorry, don't mean to rant but I am overdosed on being told what is wrong with my own country as an answer for why this case was so bungled if it was not a deliberate cover up.  And a little research might just show that there were no leads, no DNA to take and no knows suspects in many of those which is certainly not the case in this instance.


 You go, girl!  Your heart is in it.
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« Reply #375 on: June 27, 2005, 11:14:07 PM »

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So everything that your government tells you, that's accepted as fact?

Uhm, okay.


I question most everything, especially the government.
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« Reply #376 on: June 27, 2005, 11:14:32 PM »

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Ok people... We have been here pouring over and spouting our rumors and concerns over this case. It's time to take action and pressure our elected officials in the USA to turn up the heat in this case.


You are so very right!!!! Let's get busy....we can't solve this case, but we sure can help find a resolution!!!!

I hate to burst your bubbles, but we are not the only people involved who know all the answers or care about Natalee and her family.

You make matters worse when you flood these offices with calls demanding the obvious.  The people in Aruba will make mistakes, as we all do, but they are bright, caring, and are working with our FBI.
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« Reply #377 on: June 27, 2005, 11:15:32 PM »

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BHT tonight said that Natalie's room is on the ground floor with an entry from the beach.  Does this not contradict what Dash said...she said you could only enter the room from the main lobby, over a bridge, etc.?????


I have stayed in many rooms that opened onto the beach, but you would have to climb over railing to get to the beach,,,The casino is on the 1st floor,,,IMO, think room opens, but does not walk out onto the beach
 

the question is could you get in there from the beach?  I guess you could.   but then all those hundreds of mountain brook kids with night vision out there all night would see you.


Hey, only if it was open...just remembered the comment by Dash and asked.  I do not have a valid theory because it does not seem as though Natalee had the opportunity to get that far after C&C and the 'lift' in the silver/gray car.  If I was staying in a room for 4 or 5 days, I think it would be expected you would know that the window was a slider and you could exit to the pool/beach direction.
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« Reply #378 on: June 27, 2005, 11:16:19 PM »

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 Apparantly these kids in Aruba routinely stay out till the early hours of the morning partying and gambling. Rolling Eyes


Really what else is there for them to do? I've read that most of the good beach areas are hogged up by hotels who want to keep locals out and tourists happy. It's a small island, very beautiful, but after living there so long, what is there for the youth to do when they've done it all 1000 times? Can't blame them if they do partake in the tourist spots. OUR kids go there and stay out till all hours gambling and partying, what's the difference?

Not picking on you, just making a point.


You're on a roll tonight....Keep it up !
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« Reply #379 on: June 27, 2005, 11:16:52 PM »

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!. Natalee is an adult, there was no reason to believe she was a victim of a crime on 5/31.


 Rolling Eyes Wow, show some respect for her!

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I really hope that in the US, police are not permitted to enter people's homes and search in such circumstances. Maybe the law protects criminals, but it also protects innocent people. The government should not be allowed to search your property at will.


Ummm no, not at will, every heard of a search warrant?? Rolling Eyes
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