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« Reply #740 on: June 28, 2005, 09:34:22 AM »

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Did anyone see Mr. Miller on FoX last night? He said he told BHT that she might want to consider talking to a realtor in Aruba? This am on the Today show BHT said again she thinks Natalee is alive. She also says that it is not so much what the VDS's say, but what they don't say.


I did see that, and I heard that too...but I thought Mr. Miller was trying to inject some levity into the conversation.  Did you notice how weary he looked?

 
I got the impression her was inferring that BHT might want to consider moving to Aruba for a while. This search may take a looooong time!
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« Reply #741 on: June 28, 2005, 09:35:39 AM »

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I know some people in the past have tried to put blame on Natalee. But after watching her mother for the past weeks, I don't see how  anyone can say a bad thing about any of them. Beth has got to be without a doubt the strongest, most patient, caring individual I have ever seen. I know that if I were in her situation there is no way I wouldn't have gotten to the boys and tried to get some answers myself. I know when I go in Sept. if the boys are out and I see them, I may not be able to keep my mouth shut! Mad  Mad


You go girl!!!

(Will we be reading about you when there's "International Incident" headlines?  LOL)
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« Reply #742 on: June 28, 2005, 09:36:46 AM »

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I know some people in the past have tried to put blame on Natalee. But after watching her mother for the past weeks, I don't see how  anyone can say a bad thing about any of them. Beth has got to be without a doubt the strongest, most patient, caring individual I have ever seen. I know that if I were in her situation there is no way I wouldn't have gotten to the boys and tried to get some answers myself. I know when I go in Sept. if the boys are out and I see them, I may not be able to keep my mouth shut! Mad  Mad


As soon as Joran gets out his family is going to leave the country.  I wouldnt go to vacation on aruba if it was free.
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« Reply #743 on: June 28, 2005, 09:37:31 AM »

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I know some people in the past have tried to put blame on Natalee. But after watching her mother for the past weeks, I don't see how  anyone can say a bad thing about any of them. Beth has got to be without a doubt the strongest, most patient, caring individual I have ever seen. I know that if I were in her situation there is no way I wouldn't have gotten to the boys and tried to get some answers myself. I know when I go in Sept. if the boys are out and I see them, I may not be able to keep my mouth shut! Mad  Mad


You go girl!!!

(Will we be reading about you when there's "International Incident" headlines?  LOL)
 Hopefully you will all back me, and try and get me back home.  Wink
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« Reply #744 on: June 28, 2005, 09:41:08 AM »

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how can anyone argue that there is something seriously wrong with the way the arubans have handled this case and trying to serve justice? as well as the serious problems that exist in their justice system.


just think, their current system can't serve justice...it can't even get solid leads to produce evidence, let alone a body. a team from the US is probably going to produce more evidence.


We don't KNOW how they have handled it because their proceedure is to not release information during the investigation.  We don't know what they 'have' and on who.
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« Reply #745 on: June 28, 2005, 09:41:46 AM »

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« Reply #746 on: June 28, 2005, 09:41:47 AM »

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New here so just asking..
I heard someone last night ask Beth Holloway something regarding whether or not anyone in the group with Natalee had been questioned or had seen anything.  Beth just said something like "No"?


My understanding is that the FBI talked to them.


If I recall.. I think Dash also said the FBI spoke to them as well.
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« Reply #747 on: June 28, 2005, 09:43:13 AM »

mominark,


in the beginning i would have accepted that. but now, i think it is a great cover for"we don't have jack!".

come one, if they had anything solid, we would be getting bits and pieces, i hope i am wrong and it is all under wraps. but if they had anything solid, would they be searching more areas physically?
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« Reply #748 on: June 28, 2005, 09:44:58 AM »

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just think, their current system can't serve justice...it can't even get solid leads to produce evidence, let alone a body. a team from the US is probably going to produce more evidence.


According to the 'nutjobs' posting in code on the main page the search team is being led astray.

You really need to read those SM mainpage posts, as far out as they may seem - they also offer a new (+disturbing) perspective

* No lighthouse, no beaches... Natalee was brought to an underground rave or something in a house in the country notorious for all kinds of shady activity
* 'something bad happened there' (drugs/sex), not with Joran involved but the house regulars, possibly drug dealers
* police chief + Joran's father are in the know about the shady activity but look the other way, speculation: they're somehow involved
* Joran 'turned from lamb to scapegoat' + can't talk

It makes sense, esp. when you're clutching at straws, but of course it also could be nothing but a sick joke or planted to divert attention from the real culprits.
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« Reply #749 on: June 28, 2005, 09:49:06 AM »

I accepted "their way" in the beginning, now I don't.

I think it's a coverup, and I think they know exactly where she is and who killed her. Sorry!  Just my opinion.  And yes, I believe that kind of thing happens anywhere but it's not the daily news feature  starring a determined mother who is looking for her child. Guess they picked the wrong child.

I'm rooting for Beth!  Find your daughter, Beth!
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« Reply #750 on: June 28, 2005, 09:50:07 AM »

* No lighthouse, no beaches... Natalee was brought to an underground rave or something in a house in the country notorious for all kinds of shady activity[/quote]

http://www.mrpinkproductions.com/

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« Reply #751 on: June 28, 2005, 09:51:02 AM »

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A compilation of different posts by a mysterious poster:
June 27th, 2005 at 9:51 pm
DirtyHand walks with the Babylons, the Arawaks and is consort to the fallen elder

The gods are talking

Shango Says:

June 27th, 2005 at 9:57 pm
Outsiders brought into the Arawak tribe walk in many circles, nameless

Shango Says:

June 27th, 2005 at 9:59 pm



DirtyHand can bring down all houses

DirtyHand is the key

His reach is long

He walks in all circles

consort to all, except for the gods

He knows the sacrifice is not responsible

Now just go with me for a minute here...
Dirty Hand= Chief of Police
Babylons and Arawaks= Americans and Arubans
Fallen elder= PVDS
Outsiders are going in circles, can't find a name of who did this
Dirty Hand is more powerful than we know
He is involved with a lot of wrongdoing
He (the chief of police) knows Joran (the sacrifice) is not responsible

back to first line: Consort to the fallen elder
knows PVDS is responsible
I know this might be far fetched but this guy really spooked me enough to take a closer look.


I agree pretty hefty stuff..Babylons= dutch
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« Reply #752 on: June 28, 2005, 09:51:18 AM »

I know most of my posts go unnoticed, but I just wanted to post about a couple things:

I noticed on that Freddy's site http://connect.tickle.com/profile/index.html?id=UluyZ7YF1qeAFh62 Jorans brothers pic is not available-I know his blog was still up and running with pics-not his is gone too.  More pics available of Joran--seems like a Huge Wanna Be P.I.M.P!!

This Godfather thing-this investigation keeps getting more and more crazy.  But, if I get flamed-I can handle it-strong & stubborn Polish/Italian Girl here, WE, the US have a lot of cover ups.  I lived in Chicago and I personally knew guys/girls whose parents/relatives/friends were cops--they could speed, drive drunk, get in fights-whatever extreme-but they knew what to/not to do/say and they would get out of it.

This is all over, not just in Aruba. Higher ups or if you have tons of $$ to pay it off-the investigation gets lost/vanishes.

I want this resolved with Natalie just as everyone does.  Those posters yesterday make me get goose bumps and shudder.  The breaking news makes my heart drop--I feel for the family and friends--it is horrible.  But arguing on here or criticizing others, especially those who live in Aruba and are giving us info before anyone else-we should show more respect. We need to stick together--see what we find or what theories we come up with-like how it started when I first was on--I think we lost our focus why we are on SM and NH board!!!
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« Reply #753 on: June 28, 2005, 09:51:48 AM »

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New here so just asking..
I heard someone last night ask Beth Holloway something regarding whether or not anyone in the group with Natalee had been questioned or had seen anything.  Beth just said something like "No"?


My understanding is that the FBI talked to them.


Mine to Ting. I think she has said she spoke with them at the very beginning, or at least some of them---that is one of the ways she got the joran name.  I would also think, that if she or members of the family spoke with the kids or chaperones to much, it could be misconstrued and perhaps come back to bite them during a trial. It could be said she and the family influenced testimony....just thinking! Confused
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« Reply #754 on: June 28, 2005, 09:52:31 AM »

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Paul Brough's biz


So who is Paul Brough?
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« Reply #755 on: June 28, 2005, 09:52:57 AM »

Quote from: "GreatOwl I saw this yesterday.  It just appears that  it is a type of code which HSers use to communicate with each other.  It isn't too cryptic at all.  Just as the hand signals[/quote


How can you be certain that this is a HS code?  And even if it is, whose to say they don't know something. So far, this "investigation" has led to nothing. I say investigate anything.  Maybe someone is trying to get the word out without being fingered and possibly sent to jail or worse.

We don't know how other's minds work and if this is a joke, it is a pretty sick one at that but interestingly, some of these things have not been explored (fully) and maybe should be.
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« Reply #756 on: June 28, 2005, 09:53:51 AM »

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* No lighthouse, no beaches... Natalee was brought to an underground rave or something in a house in the country notorious for all kinds of shady activity


http://www.mrpinkproductions.com/

Paul Brough's biz[/quote]

Oh My Gosh.. I just looked at that.. what a weirdo!
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« Reply #757 on: June 28, 2005, 09:54:11 AM »

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Paul Brough's biz


So who is Paul Brough?


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« Reply #758 on: June 28, 2005, 09:56:35 AM »

Another MB kid says that Natalee and J met for the first time the evening of 5/29 at the casino. She also says J had been around all week (actually only 4 days) Also first mention I've seen of Natalee eating dinner at the hotel.

http://www.nbc13.com/news/4658874/detail.html
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« Reply #759 on: June 28, 2005, 09:57:51 AM »

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you are right on the money.  The only way I see that the case will turn around is if the US state department puts pressure on Aruba and the Netherlands.  If this is not done, as soon as the media goes away this case will die and the suspects will go free.


A US takover would be a breach of all known jurisdictional treaties between the United States and The Kingdom of the Netherlands. There are already highlevel talks between the US and the dutch government about this case so the pressure is already high.
Further, any evidence gathered by a team lead by a US lawenforcement agency, is very hard to bring  into court. The defence can argue that the US gathering evidence on Aruban/ Dutch soil is illegal.  A dismissal and therefore release of the suspects because of 'lack of evidence' becomes a possibility. There are very strickt rules in the 'dutch system' and one must abide by them if this case will eventually lead to a conviction.

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