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« Reply #760 on: June 28, 2005, 09:57:56 AM »

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Mine to Ting. I think she has said she spoke with them at the very beginning, or at least some of them---that is one of the ways she got the joran name.  I would also think, that if she or members of the family spoke with the kids or chaperones to much, it could be misconstrued and perhaps come back to bite them during a trial. It could be said she and the family influenced testimony....just thinking! Confused


I think she got Joran's name from the Twitty cousin who got into the scuffle with him, didn't she?

And I agree, I imagine the FBI would have advised that she let them do the questioning. Not to mention that she has been quite busy in Aruba since day 1.
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« Reply #761 on: June 28, 2005, 09:58:46 AM »

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Oh My Gosh.. I just looked at that.. what a weirdo!


Porn producer. Anyone knows more ?
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« Reply #762 on: June 28, 2005, 10:00:28 AM »

I just keep feeling that some of the other students on the trip may know more than they have said publicly- or maybe know more than they realize.
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« Reply #763 on: June 28, 2005, 10:01:21 AM »

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* No lighthouse, no beaches... Natalee was brought to an underground rave or something in a house in the country notorious for all kinds of shady activity


http://www.mrpinkproductions.com/

Paul Brough's biz


Oh My Gosh.. I just looked at that.. what a weirdo![/quote]

I agree--that freaked me out a little--then my mind wandering-but don't think we will find NH with MrPink
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« Reply #764 on: June 28, 2005, 10:03:58 AM »

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So who is Paul Brough?


Lorenzo: He my friend


According to the code talkers Natalee was involved with Lorenzo, something the MB crowd denies.

Could it be ?
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« Reply #765 on: June 28, 2005, 10:04:45 AM »

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Another MB kid says that Natalee and J met for the first time the evening of 5/29 at the casino. She also says J had been around all week (actually only 4 days) Also first mention I've seen of Natalee eating dinner at the hotel.

http://www.nbc13.com/news/4658874/detail.html


hmm--this made me think:

The way he came off wasn't at all in a threatening way," Justice said. "He was really naive to everybody."

Justice and many of Holloway's friends thought van der Sloot was a fellow tourist.

"He didn't look like one of the locals and he didn't act like one of the locals," Justice said. "He acted more like he was just down there vacationing."


It was posted before-he was saying or something about him being a foreign exchange student?????  Correct me if I am wrong, please!
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« Reply #766 on: June 28, 2005, 10:05:27 AM »

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Fox News just said the Police Commissioner is Joran's Godfather.


Thank goodness someone else heard that as well.....my heart just sank when I heard it....<sigh>
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« Reply #767 on: June 28, 2005, 10:07:04 AM »

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how can anyone argue that there is something seriously wrong with the way the arubans have handled this case and trying to serve justice? as well as the serious problems that exist in their justice system.


just think, their current system can't serve justice...it can't even get solid leads to produce evidence, let alone a body. a team from the US is probably going to produce more evidence.


Tim from Equasearch said last night he got NO MORE cooperation and help in this country when his 16 yr. old daughter was missing!  They kept treating her as a runaway until 18 months later he read in the Houston (?) paper two bodies were found...he went to the cops...they didn't even have a missing person report on his daughter!!!  It turned out to be her body.

This doesn't make either situation right.  But, mishandled cases are common everywhere...unfortunately.
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« Reply #768 on: June 28, 2005, 10:10:04 AM »

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A US takover would be a breach of all known jurisdictional treaties between the United States and The Kingdom of the Netherlands.


I think you can be sure that the US will do what it feels best serves its interests. That might involve some conflict with the preferences of the Netherlands, or it might involve some conflict with the preferences of Mr. Twitty.

At this point, we don't know yet which way that will go.
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« Reply #769 on: June 28, 2005, 10:10:17 AM »

GOOD MORNING FELLOW MONKEES  Perhaps I am late in posting this but Beth was on Good Morning America this morning.  She spoke very openly about PVDS.  She feels (and still believes) he knows much more than what he is saying.  She also said they were terribly disappointed upon hearing of his release on Sunday.  

My heart went out to her - she now looks so tired.  And extremely discouraged.  

Again sorry if you all have already seen or heard about this.  

Please try to send me emails if something new comes up later (this eve) as I do not plan on being near the computer.   Thankx
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« Reply #770 on: June 28, 2005, 10:10:29 AM »

morning all!  just got settled in for the morning.  what's this about "code talkers"?  whereabouts might i find their posts?  thanks!  

saw beth on "today show" this a.m. - she is a pillar!
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« Reply #771 on: June 28, 2005, 10:13:43 AM »

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how can anyone argue that there is something seriously wrong with the way the arubans have handled this case and trying to serve justice? as well as the serious problems that exist in their justice system.


just think, their current system can't serve justice...it can't even get solid leads to produce evidence, let alone a body. a team from the US is probably going to produce more evidence.


Tim from Equasearch said last night he got NO MORE cooperation and help in this country when his 16 yr. old daughter was missing!  They kept treating her as a runaway until 18 months later he read in the Houston (?) paper two bodies were found...he went to the cops...they didn't even have a missing person report on his daughter!!!  It turned out to be her body.

This doesn't make either situation right.  But, mishandled cases are common everywhere...unfortunately.


Yes too true. His daughter was murdered 21 yrs. ago by the still at large I 45 serial killer. A lot of things have changed in 21 yrs. and yes there are mistakes made in every police dept. in every country. This just touches my heart sooo deeply, I want desperatly for NH to be found alive!
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« Reply #772 on: June 28, 2005, 10:14:08 AM »

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you are right on the money.  The only way I see that the case will turn around is if the US state department puts pressure on Aruba and the Netherlands.  If this is not done, as soon as the media goes away this case will die and the suspects will go free.


A US takover would be a breach of all known jurisdictional treaties between the United States and The Kingdom of the Netherlands. There are already highlevel talks between the US and the dutch government about this case so the pressure is already high.
Further, any evidence gathered by a team lead by a US lawenforcement agency, is very hard to bring  into court. The defence can argue that the US gathering evidence on Aruban/ Dutch soil is illegal.  A dismissal and therefore release of the suspects because of 'lack of evidence' becomes a possibility. There are very strickt rules in the 'dutch system' and one must abide by them if this case will eventually lead to a conviction.

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You mis understood my quote.  I am not saying that the US should take over the case but put political pressure on the Netherlands and Aruba to solve the case or it will die when the media coverage stops.
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« Reply #773 on: June 28, 2005, 10:18:04 AM »

One of my concerns is if the media covering this runs out of breaking stories, they'll put back. Sure there's an audience now...but, the audience is dependent on new info and news.

Last night Greta said to Beth they're saying the same things over and over everyday.

I'm hoping Equaseach gets more hits and that something moves this case...but, Joran is gonna stay quiet...he has no reason not to...there's no body, without that he walks.
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« Reply #774 on: June 28, 2005, 10:20:26 AM »

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morning all!  just got settled in for the morning.  what's this about "code talkers"?  whereabouts might i find their posts?  thanks!  

saw beth on "today show" this a.m. - she is a pillar!



go to the main monkey page, click on "afternoon update", scroll down a bit till you see "shango" talking...
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« Reply #775 on: June 28, 2005, 10:22:44 AM »

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Quote from: "GreatOwl I saw this yesterday.  It just appears that  it is a type of code which HSers use to communicate with each other.  It isn't too cryptic at all.  Just as the hand signals[/quote


How can you be certain that this is a HS code?  And even if it is, whose to say they don't know something. So far, this "investigation" has led to nothing. I say investigate anything.  Maybe someone is trying to get the word out without being fingered and possibly sent to jail or worse.

We don't know how other's minds work and if this is a joke, it is a pretty sick one at that but interestingly, some of these things have not been explored (fully) and maybe should be.


sorry, I have been away from the computer.  I never said it wasn't significant or that it should not be investigated.  I merely said it sounded like it came from HSers or near that age.  I work with those types often and they just happen to develope their own code.  Each seems to be unique according to locale.

I would agree with many of the therories put forth as to name association.  Especially if the police chief happens to be left handed.
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« Reply #776 on: June 28, 2005, 10:22:52 AM »

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what's this about "code talkers"?  whereabouts might i find their posts?  thanks!


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« Reply #777 on: June 28, 2005, 10:22:59 AM »

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One of my concerns is if the media covering this runs out of breaking stories, they'll put back. Sure there's an audience now...but, the audience is dependent on new info and news.

Last night Greta said to Beth they're saying the same things over and over everyday.

I'm hoping Equaseach gets more hits and that something moves this case...but, Joran is gonna stay quiet...he has no reason not to...there's no body, without that he walks.
I agree 100%.  Time is on Joran's side unless Equasearch finds something.  It looks to me like the case is at a dead end unless new evidence is found.
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« Reply #778 on: June 28, 2005, 10:24:04 AM »

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Last night Greta said to Beth they're saying the same things over and over everyday.

I'm hoping Equaseach gets more hits and that something moves this case...but, Joran is gonna stay quiet...he has no reason not to...there's no body, without that he walks.


I noticed that too - and unless something gives soon, Greta will be back home.  That puts a unique pressure on Equusearch, i think.
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« Reply #779 on: June 28, 2005, 10:24:56 AM »

PM of Aruba was just on FOX rtalking to Geraldo.. but I couldnt understand WTH he was saying  ughhh.. sounded like he said he was going to call Dutch Government.. anyone else hear him on FOX??
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