Lively Case Discussion #509 8/9 - 8/10/2006

[robots]

I can't get my focus off of Joran,  its the Dutch that protect the Dutch and not Satish and Deepak.. Heck they got rid of Dompig because he was saying things about the White Dutch kids and thats why he is gone.. Its Joran and the others might of helped in someway or other but the one that caused her death is Joran...

i agree

[terryd270]

Thinks like the PIMPS.. If you wanted someone to proxy for you, would you rely on Satish and Deepak or Joran(Freddy, Sandor, Koen, etc..)..

Joran was know as someone that can get his way and used that to get people to do what he wants..  I'm pretty sure that Satish or Deepak do not have that power.. They looked like losers and they are losers, they are not leaders..  You are giving these two, way too much credit..

[mrs. red]

My suggestion would be to bypass Greta, Nancy, and send this information that all of you are working so very hard to compile and send it to an Investigator.  Mark Furhman, or someone who has investigative background, but enough noteriety to be able to make things happen.

I don't think the Moxley murder would have ever been solved if not for Mark Furhman.

MSM has their own agenda....

It's all about ratings, and sensationalism....

JMHO

You could be on to something there! We have seen time and time again that MSM has an agenda....

[igsigs]

Cell Phone Info - thanks Klaas

VDStraaten..."Looking at the resulation of the measuring, it is therefore possible that suspect Joran van der Sloot reversed possibly and nevertheless drove by the Marriott to Wyndham and cell-id's were registered."

Is VDStraaten trying to excuse Joran's lie with this statement?

[nonesuche]

Hi everyone-

Just popping in during mr none's nap, I think it's a great idea Jacq has had. If typing skills are necessary I can do some typing for a summary, I know Klaas is doing regular work this week. So just email me if I can help.

Hope all are having a good day.

[Jacqueline]

My suggestion would be to bypass Greta, Nancy, and send this information that all of you are working so very hard to compile and send it to an Investigator.  Mark Furhman, or someone who has investigative background, but enough noteriety to be able to make things happen.

I don't think the Moxley murder would have ever been solved if not for Mark Furhman.

MSM has their own agenda....

It's all about ratings, and sensationalism....

JMHO

You could be on to something there! We have seen time and time again that MSM has an agenda....

Yes, and I think of all the times I have gotten suckered in with their claims of Breaking news crap...and Ohhhh you won't want to miss this bull.

When it is nothing more than a rehash.

Time to travel another road....

And maybe one less publicized...

At night......They Hit us.....

[sharon]

Cell Phone Info - thanks Klaas

VDStraaten..."Looking at the resulation of the measuring, it is therefore possible that suspect Joran van der Sloot reversed possibly and nevertheless drove by the Marriott to Wyndham and cell-id's were registered."

Is VDStraaten trying to excuse Joran's lie with this statement?

I think this is VDStraaten version of 'reasonable doubt'

.

[Sue]

How I read the cell phone record is that DEEPAK calls JORAN at around 7:25pm on May 30th from the Cyberzone.  Also, that Joran said he was in the area of the Radisson/Wyndham but the cell tower near the Lighthouse was picked up.  (I think )

JACKPOT  

The question is..if Joran was up near the Lighthouse around 7:25pm on May 30th..what was he doing there?  Also, who was he with?  Was he with Satish in Deepak's car or was someone else driving him around like Guido?

Was he disposing of evidence?

walked barefoot by himself  

trying to find his missing shoes and the condom that broke

[nonesuche]

yes and straaten also lives next door to one of our former aruban posters, so I have often wondered how much of what we discovered he was given a heads-up on?

igsigs, after reading over these statements, no doubt in my mind that stratten led this cover-up for the ALE.

[terryd270]

When we do find the answers, I don't think they will be that complicated.. I keep pointing my finger at Joran..  If you look at Joran, he looks to some here like an all American kid and the Kalpoe's look seedy, low class, and even their Mother says that all people lie.. Well they were easily gotten to in the beginning with Greta over at the Kalpoe's talking to her and Deepak going to Skeeter thinking he was going on the Dr. Phil and making a lot of money.. These are not rocket scientist, they are most likely slow learners trying to be accepted by these rich Dutch kids that run the island..

[klaasend]

Cell Phone Info - thanks Klaas

VDStraaten..."Looking at the resulation of the measuring, it is therefore possible that suspect Joran van der Sloot reversed possibly and nevertheless drove by the Marriott to Wyndham and cell-id's were registered."

Is VDStraaten trying to excuse Joran's lie with this statement?

Sure reads that way to me.  Also, now that I think about it, isn't it confirmed that Joran was with Guido around 7pm on May 30th?  So it would be Guido driving Joran around.

[Jacqueline]

yes and straaten also lives next door to one of our former aruban posters, so I have often wondered how much of what we discovered he was given a heads-up on?

igsigs, after reading over these statements, no doubt in my mind that stratten led this cover-up for the ALE.

Hey None....Glad to see you here....while I am here....

But now I'm leaving for the day....

See you all later...

I too, would love to help out with any typing that needs to be done...

Just lemme know.

[klaasend]

Hi everyone-

Just popping in during mr none's nap, I think it's a great idea Jacq has had. If typing skills are necessary I can do some typing for a summary, I know Klaas is doing regular work this week. So just email me if I can help.

Hope all are having a good day.

I do agree, that is a great idea to send information to Mark Furman.  I have never the less, sent the information to Nancy Grace since she will be covering the case tomorrow night.

[sharon]

yes and straaten also lives next door to one of our former aruban posters, so I have often wondered how much of what we discovered he was given a heads-up on?

igsigs, after reading over these statements, no doubt in my mind that stratten led this cover-up for the ALE.

I remember one of our initial Aruba posters SWEARING that VenderStraaten was an 'up and up' guy.

I think she even said that 'he was so honest, he would arrest his own mother if he had to'.

I don't think the poster was lieing -- I think she really believed it.

And she was wrong.

.

[nonesuche]

Jacq, good to see you too HUGS

Klaas, as always you're all over it, thanks!

sharon, you are correct and that poster is young and naive as well.

[Nut44x4]

Thank you to all involved in getting this info out there!! BFN and SM are giving RU some major palpatations......HAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!
Welcome to Best Smileys  
For Message Boards (Copy & Paste) below text Graphic That Will Show

I LOVE IT!! KEEP IT COMING!

[nomad]

Cell Phone Info - thanks Klaas

VDStraaten..."Looking at the resulation of the measuring, it is therefore possible that suspect Joran van der Sloot reversed possibly and nevertheless drove by the Marriott to Wyndham and cell-id's were registered."

Is VDStraaten trying to excuse Joran's lie with this statement?

Sure reads that way to me.  Also, now that I think about it, isn't it confirmed that Joran was with Guido around 7pm on May 30th?  So it would be Guido driving Joran around.

Am going by memory, but didn't Jossy in his Dana interview say Joran was with Guido and Dos Santos the entire evening?

[Frijole]

If I recall, Joran was supposed to be playing tennis with Guido and then they went to the casino that night... so I'm thinking Guido was with Joran.  I also think we now know why he fled the island within a few days.

[igsigs]

Cell Phone Info - thanks Klaas

VDStraaten..."Looking at the resulation of the measuring, it is therefore possible that suspect Joran van der Sloot reversed possibly and nevertheless drove by the Marriott to Wyndham and cell-id's were registered."

Is VDStraaten trying to excuse Joran's lie with this statement?

Sure reads that way to me.  Also, now that I think about it, isn't it confirmed that Joran was with Guido around 7pm on May 30th?  So it would be Guido driving Joran around.

I think you're right. We could ask Glenda or Scoop about it. Seems they have been mighty quite since the docs have been released, though.

[Frijole]

Cell Phone Info - thanks Klaas

VDStraaten..."Looking at the resulation of the measuring, it is therefore possible that suspect Joran van der Sloot reversed possibly and nevertheless drove by the Marriott to Wyndham and cell-id's were registered."

Is VDStraaten trying to excuse Joran's lie with this statement?

That is my take.  We need Metro!!!!