Lively Case Discussion #509 8/9 - 8/10/2006

[klaasend]

Sheeesh!

In terms of 'reading comprehension' they are both saying the same damn thing.

Bottom line....'it is possible'....'could have shown'

Which ALSO means that Joran possibly could be lieing as well.

What are the odds of Joran lieing?

Or does my statement need to be re-translated as well

THANK YOU KLAAS AND SCARED MONKEYS FOR GETTING US THE ROUGH TRANSLATIONS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

My entire problem with Van Der Stratten's statement at the bottom of the report is that he is such close friends with the VDS family.  Of course he's going to make an excuse for it.

[terryd270]

Hi anidac, Anna, Dana, Leslie, Nut44x4, Rooscrew, thirdstrike!  I guess we wanted some news and now we are getting it..  With this latest scared of bombing of our airplanes and the news that we are getting from the island, I would think they might be bankrupt before they can pay Paulus off..  Is Joran still over in Aruba?  Is John Q. Kelly over in Aruba?

[terryd270]

Is there anything on the stations about the case besides N.G tomorrow night.. Do we know if its something new or just a rehash of a prior program of her's?

[terryd270]

I'm curious but some of the members of the PIMPS are here in Florida if I heard right, well can't the FBI bring them in for an interview?  Just curious..

[klaasend]

Is there anything on the stations about the case besides N.G tomorrow night.. Do we know if its something new or just a rehash of a prior program of her's?

It appears to be a rehash.  I did send Nancy Grace a link to the statements we are posting however, so maybe she'll discuss those too:

Friday 8/11/06 - Nancy Grace CNN Headline News:

[2NJSons_Mom]

From This Weeks Dana Pretzer Show thread in the Lounge:

Next Live Shows

August 11th 9pm et- Tim Miller From Texas Equusearch

August 13th 10pm et- Ed Lozzi from Edward Lozzi and Associates What really happened to Superman George Reeves.

[Tylergal]

I need to get some work done so I'll be lurking and not posting.  BBL

Scoop's sister, the one with the funny Indian accent from Michigan which is Margaritaville north, said 'da cah was in da cop shop da next morning.'  I never asked her which car because her IQ is such that I cannot reach that high, (and she told me that).  

[WidgetTheMidget]

Rammsteins correction of the bottom part of our rough translation:

At the bottom of his second page van der Straten writes:

Looking at the results of the measurements, it is possible that the suspect Joran van der Sloot was indeed walking from the Marriot to the Wyndham and that this could still have resulted in reverse order picking up/registering of the cell-phone ID's.

Then Ramm adds:

In dutch it says that even though it looks like he was walking from the Wyndham towards the Marriot when first looking at the mobile-phone ID records, actual measurements have shown that Joran could have been walking (as he was saying) from the Marriot towards the Wyndham and still get the results that the ID records have shown.

In other words, Joran could have just as easily been telling the truth about walking from the Marriot to the Wyndham, the phone ID-records in this are not conclusive according to the measurements.

In Between The Ton Of Lies ............

There Lies An Ounce Of Truth ..........

 

[WidgetTheMidget]

I'm curious but some of the members of the PIMPS are here in Florida if I heard right, well can't the FBI bring them in for an interview?  Just curious..

Terry You Have A Car Like Tony Soprano ..........

Pay Them A Visit ...........

Make Sure You Bring An Italian Friend ............

 

[WidgetTheMidget]

From This Weeks Dana Pretzer Show thread in the Lounge:

Next Live Shows

August 11th 9pm et- Tim Miller From Texas Equusearch

August 13th 10pm et- Ed Lozzi from Edward Lozzi and Associates What really happened to Superman George Reeves.

DANA SHOULD GET BAILS & ALYSE ON THE SHOW ..................

 

[WidgetTheMidget]

Is there anything on the stations about the case besides N.G tomorrow night.. Do we know if its something new or just a rehash of a prior program of her's?

It appears to be a rehash.  I did send Nancy Grace a link to the statements we are posting however, so maybe she'll discuss those too:

Friday 8/11/06 - Nancy Grace CNN Headline News:

hEY kLAAS .............

gREAT wORK ............

dO yOU kNOW wHERE jUG iS hIDING ................

 

[Jacqueline]

HEY Third....did you check out the sports related thread of Piazza in the Lounge yet?

[2NJSons_Mom]

Just wondering what the strategy was having van der straaten, Jacobs and Croes question Joran, and Kelly and others whose names I can't recall at the moment question the 2Ks...

Tylergal, I do believe I remember that post about the cah..

[Tylergal]

If I recall, Joran was supposed to be playing tennis with Guido and then they went to the casino that night... so I'm thinking Guido was with Joran.  I also think we now know why he fled the island within a few days.

Guido also sold the car that he owned on the night of 5/29 and bought a new one within days of Natalee's disappearance.

[terryd270]

From This Weeks Dana Pretzer Show thread in the Lounge:

Next Live Shows

August 11th 9pm et- Tim Miller From Texas Equusearch

August 13th 10pm et- Ed Lozzi from Edward Lozzi and Associates What really happened to Superman George Reeves.

DANA SHOULD GET BAILS & ALYSE ON THE SHOW ..................

 

I wonder if the FBI has talked to Bails and Alyse about the case..  Don't the FBI have authority to talk to people about this case are they not allowed.. They are here in the US..  

Widget,

I hate South Beach, its too fake for me..  I haven't been there in 30 years and I think it has a lot of the same stuff that makes Aruba attractive to some..

[Tylergal]

I wouldn't be surprised that Paulus, Anita and others in power had nightly meetings on the case and how they could spend it.. They spoon fed Joran with information that he needed to stay away from and point the fingers at the Kalpoe's..  I guess my problem is that I don't think the Kalpoe's are very smart and that if it was them, they would of already been convicted..  They are greedy but I don't think they are smart..  The Sloots are smart but not too greedy, I think they do things like a chess match and some of the posting and information we get are from that group..  They know how to give misinformation..  It was Joran that said hey you guys we just need to say we dropped that girl off at the HI and keep to our stories..  Yes Deepak being STUPID adds the details about the securities guards because he wants to be accepted as one of Joran's friends and not just a taxi ride..  Well hopefully we will see the answers to this but it seems the biggest lies have been from Joran and thats why he was in jail two more months than Deepak and Satish.. I'm sure they checked the phone calls and computer records of these two and they only found small errors where with Joran they couldn't find any truth..

Sad to say I guess I feel that if there is any truth its in between the lies of the Kalpoes vs no truth and all lies of Joran..  "He moved her underware to the side and stuck in his index finger, and then another finger".. But on the beach she told him that she was a good french kisser, I would assume kissing would come first before the other part..  If you can just picture Joran as I describe him that some felt I was being mean spirited, I think you will see that he is exactly like I describe his appearance..  He gets away with his lies because people only see the facade he had on the outside and not what he really looks like (inside and outside)..

I was told by an Aruban, upper middle-class, shopowner, that she lived near Ben (Voc)King and the VanderSloots were staying at the Ben King house during Joran's time at KIA.  Guess who was in charge of KIA?

[WidgetTheMidget]

From This Weeks Dana Pretzer Show thread in the Lounge:

Next Live Shows

August 11th 9pm et- Tim Miller From Texas Equusearch

August 13th 10pm et- Ed Lozzi from Edward Lozzi and Associates What really happened to Superman George Reeves.

DANA SHOULD GET BAILS & ALYSE ON THE SHOW ..................

 

I wonder if the FBI has talked to Bails and Alyse about the case..  Don't the FBI have authority to talk to people about this case are they not allowed.. They are here in the US..  

Widget,

I hate South Beach, its too fake for me..  I haven't been there in 30 years and I think it has a lot of the same stuff that makes Aruba attractive to some..

The Last Night In Aruba Probably Applies To All 20 .............

Date Rape Drugs Probably Applies To All 20 ............

Where Did The Other 19 Wake-Up The Next Morning ..........

 

[JuJu]

From This Weeks Dana Pretzer Show thread in the Lounge:

Next Live Shows

August 11th 9pm et- Tim Miller From Texas Equusearch

August 13th 10pm et- Ed Lozzi from Edward Lozzi and Associates What really happened to Superman George Reeves.

DANA SHOULD GET BAILS & ALYSE ON THE SHOW ..................

 

iF ONLY WE COULD FIND SOME OF THEM

I wonder if the FBI has talked to Bails and Alyse about the case..  Don't the FBI have authority to talk to people about this case are they not allowed.. They are here in the US..  

Widget,

I hate South Beach, its too fake for me..  I haven't been there in 30 years and I think it has a lot of the same stuff that makes Aruba attractive to some..

The Last Night In Aruba Probably Applies To All 20 .............

Date Rape Drugs Probably Applies To All 20 ............

Where Did The Other 19 Wake-Up The Next Morning ..........

 

[terryd270]

Tylergal,

I can here Ben King telling Joran "Find mess you got us into now Joran" but its ok we know what to do, just be more careful next time..

[terryd270]

I think I will go for now but its a lot of information that we are hearing now and its sad..  Is this all being released because the civil case was dismissed here?  I guess I'm still wondering why are we getting this stuff 13 months later..  I assume someone took a big chance releasing this information to us.. I just wished it was 13 months ago but then we thought they might have a trial, yea right..