Lively Case Discussion #509 8/9 - 8/10/2006

[klaasend]

I Will not be back because but I do hope you find the justice you are all looking for.. Klaasend you can remove me, I have nothing to add..

Bye and all have a great night.. Its the weekend and hopefully you all will do something fun and realized that life is short and thank God we live here and not in Aruba..

Terryd - what happened?  No, I will not remove you!  You get back here!

[Kat_Gram]

I Will not be back because but I do hope you find the justice you are all looking for.. Klaasend you can remove me, I have nothing to add..

Bye and all have a great night.. Its the weekend and hopefully you all will do something fun and realized that life is short and thank God we live here and not in Aruba..

Terry, please re consider. You are an asset to this cage.

[Frijole]

JORAN'S JUNE 24, 2005 STATEMENT AS POSTED AT BFN:

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=193

Klaas there were 2 from the 24th... one was taken later in the day... that was the one that really got to me.  This is one sick  kid.

[Frijole]

I'm sure Klaas will add this to the link but here is the 2nd statement from 6/24 as posted on BFN:



PROCES-VERBAAL

We, Dennis Domenico JACOBS and Luigi Angelo Giovanni CROES, head-officer and officer-first class with the Korps Politie Aruba, first mentioned attaced to the robbery project team (Atraco Team) and the latter with the section often occurring crimes district 2, declare the following.

On Friday, June 24th, at approximately 18.40 hours, we, the reporting officers, interrogated/interviewed the suspect:

Joran Andreas Petrus van der SLOOT born in Arnhem, the Netherlands on August 6th 1987, without occupation student (International School of Aruba) and living Montanja 19 on Aruba, for further information.

His statement that was given in Papiamento was translated and transcribed by me, JACOBS, into dutch and goes as follows.

Before we, the reporting officers, started the interview, I, JACOBS, informed the suspect that he was not obliged to make any statement.

I, JACOBS, also informed the suspect that this interview is being taped.

"You are informing me that you have several questions for me and want to hear an answer to those questions. I am prepared to give them.

To your question whether I know a girl named "Karen" and whether I had a sexual relation with her, I answer you the following. Ik know the girl named "Karen". I do not know Karen's last name. I had a sexual relation with her but I do not remember the time period. (With Karen we mean the witness "Karen Theresa Paulina MARTINA"; remark JACOBS).

To your question whether I had a sexual relationship with Karen during "Carnaval" this year, I answer you in the affirmative. During the "fakkeloptocht" this year I was dancing in the "Last-Lap". I think it was near the bridge of the "Renaissance Hotel" when I saw Karen. I saw that Karen went to dance with Jaime CAARASQUILLA, nickname "Beto". I suspect that Karen was drinking at that moment in time but I did not see that. After the "fakkeloptocht" "Jaime CARRASQUILLA", "Freddy ZEDAN", "Karen" and myself walked to "Carlos & Charlies". According to me "Koen GOTTENBOS" was also with us when we were walking to Carlos & Charlies. Inside Carlos & Charlies Karen and I walked upstairs and started french kissing. After that Karen and me walked outside and walked to the "Pier" due east of Carlos & Charlies. When we were standing on the "Pier" I asked Karen if she could give me a "blow-job". Karen agreed to this and started sucking my penis. I do not remember if I was standing upright or if I was lying down on the ground when Karen gave me the blow-job. I have to state that I wanted to have a sexual relationship with Karen but that I did not have a condom on me at that precise moment. After Karen had given me the blow-job Freddy ZEDAN called me on my mobile phone. Freddy told me that they were going to go home and asked me how I would get home. According to me Freddy also told me that he was at that moment in time sitting in the car of "Chato". The name of "Chato" is "Leonardo" but I do not know his last name. According to me Chato is from Mexico. Freddy, Karen and me got a ride from Chato. Chato and Freddy were in the front and Karen and me got into the back. When Karen and me were sitting in the back I think I asked whether I had a sexual relation with her, I answer you the following. I know the girl named "Karen". I do not know Karen's last name. I had a Karen to give me another blow-job, something that she did then do. Chato saw then that Karen was giving me head in his pick-up. Chato drives a green 4-door pick-up of the Ford make when he brought us three, meaning Freddy, Karen and myself a ride to my house. I do not know the license plate of Chato's pick-up. When we arrived at my appartement the 4 of us went inside the appartement. Chato had a hip flask containing whiskey. Chato and Karen drank from the contents. I have to say that I am not sure any more if "Freddy ZEDAN" or "Fernando VIANA" was in the appartement with us. Karen and I went to lie down on the sofa-bed and had put a blanket over us. Karen and I started fondling and having "foreplay". Chato tried to pull the blanket off of us to see what we were doing. Chato asked me to ask Karen if he and I could have sexual relations with Karen together. On Chato's request I asked Karen if she was willing to have sex with me and Chato together. Karen told me that she did not want to have sex with me and Chato. After that Chato and Freddy left. I do not know where Chato and Freddy went to. Karen and I were on the sofa-bed. We started kissing and I fingered Karen. After that I had taken my clothes off. Karen then took off her clothes. At that point I was told by Karen to put on a condom. I went to my drawer and took out a condom and put it on. After that we had sex with each other. I do not know if Karen bled when I had sex with her. At no time did Karen say to me that she did not want to have sex with me. I can also not tell you anymore what the condition was of Karen when I had sex with her in my appartement. She had been drinking but I also had been drinking. We had also both drank from Chato's hip-flask. I don't remember right know what kind of alcoholic drink was in that hip-flask. After Karen and me had sex I went to the bathroom and threw the condom into the toilet. I have no recollection of what happened after that.

I only had sex with Karen three times. The first time I had sex with Karen was on the beach close to the "Havana Niteclub". I do not remember the date, but it was during a "Moonlite Party". On the day Karen and me had sex the first time we had both had alcoholic drinks but we were not drunk.

About two months ago I had sex with Karen for the last time. This happened in my appartement and on that day Karen stayed the night with me. According to me I had told my mother that Karen would be staying for the night.

To your question whether or not I had sex with a girl named "Stephania", I answer you that I have not.

To your question whether I know the girl named "Stephany BOEKHOUWER", I answer you the following. This year, I don't remember the exact date, Freddy, Jaime and me went to a "Houseparty" in Oranjestad. We drove in Jaime's car to the houseparty. The car of Jaime is famous because we had experienced a lot of things in Jaime's car. Jaime has a 4-door green "Honda". On that day Freddy had sex with Stephany BOEKHOUWER on the backseat of Jaime's car. I gave Freddy a condom before he had sex with Stephany. While Freddy was having sex with Stephany on the backseat, Jaime and myself stood down at the trunk of the car and drank alcoholic beverages.

To your question whether I had a relationship with a girl name "Rika", I answer you the following. Rika was my girlfriend but we did not have a sexual relationship with each other. We may have done some french kissing but I did not have sexual relations with her because she is twelve (12) years old. Rika's parents found out about our relationship and that is why we stopped the relationship. I do not know Rika's last name.

This is my statement in accordance with the truth".

J.A.P. van der SLOOT

After the suspect J.A.P. van der SLOOT had read the statement he had given, he stated he would persist in it and signed the statement.

The reporting officers,

JACOBS          CROES

[Frijole]

Geez -  I wonder why Beth has been so insistent that these boys are guilty?

I wonder why Jug made the comment he did about shocking the world?

And these people made Dave dig for his own daughter in a landfill?  And made Beth apologise to Deepak and Satish?  

And Greta is inclined to believe this sexual deviant?

[robots]

- that his father suffers from bad memory and that because of that his and his fathers statements would not correspond



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[robots]

Geez -  I wonder why Beth has been so insistent that these boys are guilty?

I wonder why Jug made the comment he did about shocking the world?

And these people made Dave dig for his own daughter in a landfill?  And made Beth apologise to Deepak and Satish?  

And Greta is inclined to believe this sexual deviant?

GRETA MAKES me want to PUKE  

[2NJSons_Mom]

Oh, now Tromp and Ooman want to question Joran and he refuses....he had quite a list of requests.  Wonder how long this actually took.  If it were me, I'd have to have that list of requests written in front of me to get them all in for the statement.  JMHO

[Frijole]

- that his father suffers from bad memory and that because of that his and his fathers statements would not correspond



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Yeah... that's about the worst lie Joran told.  A lawyer with a bad memory? ha ha ha

[robots]

i hope GRETA feels like a JACKASS

cause there are gonna be alot of people that think she SUCKS  

[Lala'sMom]

The more statements from Joran that I read the more I think this site should be rated.  I feel the need to cover my ears on occasion...or would that be my eyes.  

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- that his father suffers from bad memory and that because of that his and his fathers statements would not correspond



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Yeah... that's about the worst lie Joran told.  A lawyer with a bad memory? ha ha ha

i know exactly where this LOAD is leading


here it is..

PAULUS cant remember WHAT TIME he PICKED JORANPIG up at
mcdonalds


NEWSFLASH

we now know HOW JORAN got HOME

PAULUS the SQAULUS PIG        

[Angiex911dsptchr]

I Will not be back because but I do hope you find the justice you are all looking for.. Klaasend you can remove me, I have nothing to add..

Bye and all have a great night.. Its the weekend and hopefully you all will do something fun and realized that life is short and thank God we live here and not in Aruba..

  Terry sweety..  don't go... K?  
 We all want justice.. I may have missed something..
I cant post or read as much as I could before..
I try and keep up as much as possible,... work has been busy as hell.. even when I am not there I get calls at home..
  I try and be there for a special friend of mine who is going through a bad time.. more then one friend.. plus a bridezilla daughter.
  I dont like to see anyone argue..  life is too short.... I dont know what happend here..????????   I read.. and dont post much anymore..
  HUGS to you Terry..

[robots]

We may have done some french kissing but I did not have sexual relations with her because she is twelve (12) years old. Rika's parents found out about our relationship and that is why we stopped the relationship. I do not know Rika's last name.



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what a PIG

nice parenting  ANITA and PAULUS  

[Frijole]

The more statements from Joran that I read the more I think this site should be rated.  I feel the need to cover my ears on occasion...or would that be my eyes.  

No doubt Lalas... it is crude, but at the same time, if we edited Joran's words then we would not really see the true Joran.  We knew he was a bad boy.. now we know just how bad.

And the family have kept their mouths shut and took the high road while knowing this for over a year... disgusting.

[robots]

HERE WE GO
this was the PLAN with Natalee


While Freddy was having sex with Stephany on the backseat, Jaime and myself stood down at the trunk of the car and drank alcoholic beverages.

[Frijole]

HERE WE GO
this was the PLAN with Natalee


While Freddy was having sex with Stephany on the backseat, Jaime and myself stood down at the trunk of the car and drank alcoholic beverages.

yeah and I bet there was a video camera involved also.

[klaasend]

I just added it to the 6/24 Joran statement thread.  Now I have to read it.

[robots]

HERE WE GO
this was the PLAN with Natalee


While Freddy was having sex with Stephany on the backseat, Jaime and myself stood down at the trunk of the car and drank alcoholic beverages.

yeah and I bet there was a video camera involved also.

yep. the PIMPS strike  

[Frijole]

I just added it to the 6/24 Joran statement thread.  Now I have to read it.

Brace yourself.