Lively Case Discussion #509 8/9 - 8/10/2006

[Shell]

Joran the "golden boy" in Anita's eyes. The boy who spends his days not working, playing in casinos all the time with money taken from his parents, and probably cheating at cards with his dealer friends and pals coming to watch the game in progress, has a built up tolerance for booze, bullies his younger brother, can't manage his anger, and has no respect for authority figures or women...oh what a gem of a son you have Anita and Paulus.

[Freebird]

Klaas    Have you seen these. Another site describes it as arguments between J2K...

http://www.vkmag.com/media/holloway telefoon1.jpg

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No, can you post the verbage here instead of the link?  I have to work on some more documents right now..

They are in Dutch.

[Ono]

Geez -  I wonder why Beth has been so insistent that these boys are guilty?

I wonder why Jug made the comment he did about shocking the world?

And these people made Dave dig for his own daughter in a landfill?  And made Beth apologise to Deepak and Satish?  

And Greta is inclined to believe this sexual deviant?

Words escape me for the moment..

[Kat_Gram]

Klaas    Have you seen these. Another site describes it as arguments between J2K...

http://www.vkmag.com/media/holloway telefoon1.jpg

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No, can you post the verbage here instead of the link?  I have to work on some more documents right now..

Holy Moley ! ! !  More ! !  
I would like to see these as an insertin a newspaper in Aruba. In Dutch.

[cubbeegirl]

I am thoroughly disgusted!!!!!

[Frijole]

Klaas    Have you seen these. Another site describes it as arguments between J2K...

http://www.vkmag.com/media/holloway telefoon1.jpg

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No, can you post the verbage here instead of the link?  I have to work on some more documents right now..

Holy Moley ! ! !  More ! !  
I would like to see these as an insertin a newspaper in Aruba. In Dutch.

CAUTION I MAY BE WRONG BUT I THINK THIS IS A PORN SITE... IT SAYS HOLLANDS' HARD SITE AT THE TOP AND LINKS TO A MAGAZINE.... I THINK IT IS A BAD JOKE FROM ANOTHER SITE....

[San]

Joe Tacopina must be so proud of himself right now.

[Lala'sMom]

FROM JORAN'S STATEMENT:

To your question whether I had a relationship with a girl name "Rika", I answer you the following. Rika was my girlfriend but we did not have a sexual relationship with each other. We may have done some french kissing but I did not have sexual relations with her because she is twelve (12) years old. Rika's parents found out about our relationship and that is why we stopped the relationship. I do not know Rika's last name.

He does not know the last name of his 12 year old girlfriend.   He is discusting.

I guess there really is such a thing as Wham! Bam! Thank you ma'am. With such quickie relationships no wonder they don't know anybody's last name on that island.  

[cubbeegirl]

Thanks for the warning Beans.... I am on my sons puter tonight....

[robots]

JOE "THE LOAD of BULL" TACO    

[igsigs]

Klaas    Have you seen these. Another site describes it as arguments between J2K...

http://www.vkmag.com/media/holloway telefoon1.jpg

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No, can you post the verbage here instead of the link?  I have to work on some more documents right now..

Bunch of Dutch stuff...

Maybe i can get the link right this time...

http://www.vkmag.com/media/holloway_telefoon1.jpg

http://www.vkmag.com/media/holloway_telefoon2.jpg

http://www.vkmag.com/media/holloway_telefoon3.jpg

http://www.vkmag.com/media/holloway_telefoon4.jpg

[San]

FROM JORAN'S STATEMENT:

To your question whether I had a relationship with a girl name "Rika", I answer you the following. Rika was my girlfriend but we did not have a sexual relationship with each other. We may have done some french kissing but I did not have sexual relations with her because she is twelve (12) years old. Rika's parents found out about our relationship and that is why we stopped the relationship. I do not know Rika's last name.

He does not know the last name of his 12 year old girlfriend.   He is discusting.

I guess there really is such a thing as Wham! Bam! Thank you ma'am. With such quickie relationships no wonder they don't know anybody's last name on that island.  

Well according to his other statement Paulus has a bad memory.  I wonder if he realized he married Anita.

[Lala'sMom]

FROM JORAN'S STATEMENT:

To your question whether I had a relationship with a girl name "Rika", I answer you the following. Rika was my girlfriend but we did not have a sexual relationship with each other. We may have done some french kissing but I did not have sexual relations with her because she is twelve (12) years old. Rika's parents found out about our relationship and that is why we stopped the relationship. I do not know Rika's last name.

He does not know the last name of his 12 year old girlfriend.   He is discusting.

I guess there really is such a thing as Wham! Bam! Thank you ma'am. With such quickie relationships no wonder they don't know anybody's last name on that island.  

Well according to his other statement Paulus has a bad memory.  I wonder if he realized he married Anita.

Clean up on monitor 3!!  Clean up on monitor 3!!  

[Frijole]

Joe Tacopina must be so proud of himself right now.

San,  I don't think Joe Taco gives a rats' you know what cuz he already cashed the check.  Case cold.  He did his "job" and "won".  That's all he cares about.  He is as bad as Joran.

[Lala'sMom]

Just as a matter of clarification for me, who is this John Charles CROES that Deepak keeps referring to?  Any relation to cell phone Croes? TIA

[sb]

I am wondering if we don't have kind of a "good cop-bad cop" thing happening here. Some posters who know the island say there is a strong DIVISION within the polis over Natalee, and that SOME want Joran punished because they know the truth.

I think that faction may be leaking info to try to keep the case going.

Apart from that, I don't want to speculate how all this is coming to light, although I have ideas.

[Angiex911dsptchr]

LaLas,,   Huggin NEMO for you.....

[igsigs]

Frijole - hope i didn't link porn.

One part appears to be the "police car" tapes.

[Ono]

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Does anyone else ever get that sinking feeling that maybe all these
docs are being released because they are going to you-know-what the case?  

To be honest, (am sorry if my call is negative), realistically, after wirnessing all we here have observed, I have not held out any hope of Lady Justice presiding on Aruba at this point in Time.  Arubs is in severe distress...The truth will out, however, I feel certain.

The truth is outting, but will justice? I feel downright ill over this.

I, too, feel quite ill.  Well, one thing is sure and that is these deviants will wear a millstone around their necks forever amongst good & decent society: their names are mud...their reputations are ruined and their paths are dark and hopeless.  Joran is a sporter, alright....he is a sportsex champion devoid of morals.  Can we say: predator? No conscience.

[Frijole]

Frijole - hope i didn't link porn.

One part appears to be the "police car" tapes.

   

Since I had already hit on the link I went ahead and checked... looks like statements printed in a magazine.  in Dutch of course.  Don't know if they are the same statements or not... perhaps  the site that posted them will translate?  Strange that they are in PRINT somewhere already.