Lively Case Discussion #509 8/9 - 8/10/2006

[Ono]

FROM JORAN'S STATEMENT:

To your question whether I had a relationship with a girl name "Rika", I answer you the following. Rika was my girlfriend but we did not have a sexual relationship with each other. We may have done some french kissing but I did not have sexual relations with her because she is twelve (12) years old. Rika's parents found out about our relationship and that is why we stopped the relationship. I do not know Rika's last name.

He does not know the last name of his 12 year old girlfriend.   He is discusting.

I guess there really is such a thing as Wham! Bam! Thank you ma'am. With such quickie relationships no wonder they don't know anybody's last name on that island.  

Well according to his other statement Paulus has a bad memory.  I wonder if he realized he married Anita.

LOL!    Who IS that woman anyway ??

[Sue]

WHat I am wondering is where all these statements are coming from
and who is leaking them  kinda makes you curious

[2NJSons_Mom]

So, now we know Stephi's last name. I think it is a mis-spelling. Wasn't there an Albert B questioned at the same time as GVC ?
ALBERT BOEKHOUDT ?
.
I just was at work and then the dentist. I am out of it.
.
Alot of things, like Joran's young girlfriend ...12 years old ! !
that we heard about before seem to be true and confirmed...what's next ! !
So, Joe T was hired to rehabilitate this guy's reputation ! ! Because he is an honor student y'know ! !

I found her site and the name was spelled Boekhouwer.

me mistaken... do you have a link ?

http://www.blogger.com/profile/5250413

Sorry, posted too quickly..afterthought...

[Ono]

This is from Deepak's statement.

To your question about the day that myself, Satish and Joran went for a walk at the "Raquet Club" and who had observed this, I can say the following. Koen and Guido certainly saw us. Sander may have seen us, I am unsure about that.

To your question as to what route we walked, I can say the following. We walked around the before mentioned club.

To your question as to how long we walked, I can say the following. It lasted about 5 to 6 minutes. .

To your question as to what the topic was of the conversation, I can say the following. The conversation was about the route, the "Holiday Inn" route and whether or not we could become suspects.
So, they were walking around the club. were they looking for things they might have left behind ? Why don't those Dumb - Asp polis follow Up ?

That was so totally weird ( among other statements )...either hatching alibis, searching for incriminating evidence, or holding hands.

[Shell]

Ladies and Gentlemen, this is not the first, nor the last time this type of crime has happened, spiking a drink and offering to a young lady, video playing on a dvd of porn, and a sexual assault of the young lady with others present. These are sad days, and this can happen anywhere. I have to leave for a while.

[SunFreak2]

FROM JORAN'S STATEMENT:

To your question whether I had a relationship with a girl name "Rika", I answer you the following. Rika was my girlfriend but we did not have a sexual relationship with each other. We may have done some french kissing but I did not have sexual relations with her because she is twelve (12) years old. Rika's parents found out about our relationship and that is why we stopped the relationship. I do not know Rika's last name.

He does not know the last name of his 12 year old girlfriend.   He is discusting.

I guess there really is such a thing as Wham! Bam! Thank you ma'am. With such quickie relationships no wonder they don't know anybody's last name on that island.  

I don't think they are girlfriends in the sense that we use the term in the USA.  In one of Deepak's statements he talks about Natalee being Joran's girlfriend.  I think if they kiss or spend 5 minutes together they call them girlfriends.  

[robots]

i have a friend that just registered about 14 DOMAIN NAMES

LOL, ARUBA is gonna be TICKED OFF


the SITES will explain things nicely, i think, at least according to my friend      

[Ono]

FROM Jaime Carrasquilia Caceres Statement 6/17/05:

To your question whether Joran wanted me to keep something for him, I can state the following. Joran had not given me anything that I should keep for him.

The police are looking for something what are they looking for?

The belt? The shoes? I'll have to go read...haven't seen this statement yet....

[SunFreak2]

From Deepak's June 13, statement:
At some given moment in time a tourist who was sitting at Joran's table got angry. The tourist thought that we were looking at the cards of other players and signaling/deciding for Joran when he should play or not. It lead to a disagreement between Joran and the tourist. The manager of the Radisson Casino came over and everything calmed down. I drank about four "whisky coke" gedronken in the Radisson Casino. I now that Joran drank more because the waiters were constantly bringing him drinks .I am not sure .what he was drinking. His drinks were of a yellow colour. I think it was “whisky soda" or 'Whisky water". [/b]

And this kid is only 17 years old!!  With this type of complicity no wonder this case is in shambles.  No one on that island has the guts to cross this kid.  Give me a break!    

Didn't Joran have school again the next day?  Why was Joran drinking so heavily that night - something on his mind he was trying to forget? Or was he getting drunk to go do something he didn't look forward to doing?  He had to be drunk when Beth first saw him then if he was drinking like crazy at the Radisson.

[Ono]

Frijole - hope i didn't link porn.

One part appears to be the "police car" tapes.

   

Since I had already hit on the link I went ahead and checked... looks like statements printed in a magazine.  in Dutch of course.  Don't know if they are the same statements or not... perhaps  the site that posted them will translate?  Strange that they are in PRINT somewhere already.

I just never had a response to one of my posts like that

WARNING  WARNING WARNING  

I felt like Homer Simpson manning the controls at the Nuclear Plant

Well, I linked to it without even thinking because I trust you so much!!!  Then I saw Holland's Hard Porn Site and about crapped my pants... Who knows what the dang thing is... but it does appear to be statements.

Sorry - I didn't want anyone to get zapped by the porn police. lol

 

[BIGORANGECRUSH]

BOC on a sweep! No Aruba Sales here!!!

[Kat_Gram]

So, now we know Stephi's last name. I think it is a mis-spelling. Wasn't there an Albert B questioned at the same time as GVC ?
ALBERT BOEKHOUDT ?
.
I just was at work and then the dentist. I am out of it.
.
Alot of things, like Joran's young girlfriend ...12 years old ! !
that we heard about before seem to be true and confirmed...what's next ! !
So, Joe T was hired to rehabilitate this guy's reputation ! ! Because he is an honor student y'know ! !

I found her site and the name was spelled Boekhouwer.

me mistaken... do you have a link ?

http://www.blogger.com/profile/5250413

Sorry, posted too quickly..afterthought...

This Step is a different one than Loco Steph.

[Ono]

FROM JORAN'S STATEMENT:

When we arrived at my appartement the 4 of us went inside the appartement. Chato had a hip flask containing whiskey. Chato and Karen drank from the contents. I have to say that I am not sure any more if "Freddy ZEDAN" or "Fernando VIANA" was in the appartement with us.

They went to his apartment to film a movie that was sold around the island.  They drugged the girl.

Yeah, who's Fernando Viana?  Where did he come from?

I swear...it's like a virus...they're everywhere.    WHO are all these people?

[San]

Joran's statement from 6/24 as posted on BFN:

To your question whether I know the girl named "Stephany BOEKHOUWER", I answer you the following. This year, I don't remember the exact date, Freddy, Jaime and me went to a "Houseparty" in Oranjestad. We drove in Jaime's car to the houseparty. The car of Jaime is famous because we had experienced a lot of things in Jaime's car. Jaime has a 4-door green "Honda". On that day Freddy had sex with Stephany BOEKHOUWER on the backseat of Jaime's car. I gave Freddy a condom before he had sex with Stephany. While Freddy was having sex with Stephany on the backseat, Jaime and myself stood down at the trunk of the car and drank alcoholic beverages.

From Jamie's Satement:

To your question whether I know a Spanish speaking girl named "Stephanie", I answer you affermative. She is a Columbian girl and according to me she is the girlfriend of Joran. According to me Stephanie lives in the hamlet of Moko but I do not know the number of her house.

[robots]

PAULUS you must be PROUD


and ANITA, youre DELICIOUS SON is GROSS

[Lala'sMom]

From Deepak's June 13 statement:
At approximately 02:40 uur, we had arrived at his house, but no-one was there. Joran phoned his father. The father had left with the police to meet with us at the Wyndham. Joran's father told him to stay at the house and that he was going to come back to the house now. I had turned up the volume of the music in my car to loud. At some point the woman that lives next door to Joran came out and called Joran over to her. The neighbor told Joran to turn the volume down of the music, she had a baby in the house and the music was too loud. Joran came over to me and told me to turn the volume down. Then borrowed Joran's phone and called Satish. I told Satish what Joran had told me. The conversation lasted about 3 to 4 minutes.

So I thought Miko was home alone...okay, where does this woman live and has she been questioned by the ALE? You know, things like, do you ever see Joran leave his house late at night?  Does he usually leave with Deepak?  Have you ever heard Deepak's loud muffler?  Do you have any idea if Paulus had been home during the last week of May?  Did you see any of Joran's brothers with him during this weeK?  Does Anita often go away and the daddy play?  Okay, I will be good. Just one more thing, I am beginning to think Deepak needs a hearing aid with all this loud music.

[Ono]

BOC on a sweep! No Aruba Sales here!!!

Thank goodness!  It's one dangerous place.

[2NJSons_Mom]

So, now we know Stephi's last name. I think it is a mis-spelling. Wasn't there an Albert B questioned at the same time as GVC ?
ALBERT BOEKHOUDT ?
.
I just was at work and then the dentist. I am out of it.
.
Alot of things, like Joran's young girlfriend ...12 years old ! !
that we heard about before seem to be true and confirmed...what's next ! !
So, Joe T was hired to rehabilitate this guy's reputation ! ! Because he is an honor student y'know ! !

I found her site and the name was spelled Boekhouwer.

me mistaken... do you have a link ?

http://www.blogger.com/profile/5250413

Sorry, posted too quickly..afterthought...

This Step is a different one than Loco Steph.

Yes, my first thought was Loco Steph, then tried the Aruba phonebook and didn't find anything, so I googled....it's a local girl, apparently.

[Ono]

From Deepak's June 13 statement:
At approximately 02:40 uur, we had arrived at his house, but no-one was there. Joran phoned his father. The father had left with the police to meet with us at the Wyndham. Joran's father told him to stay at the house and that he was going to come back to the house now. I had turned up the volume of the music in my car to loud. At some point the woman that lives next door to Joran came out and called Joran over to her. The neighbor told Joran to turn the volume down of the music, she had a baby in the house and the music was too loud. Joran came over to me and told me to turn the volume down. Then borrowed Joran's phone and called Satish. I told Satish what Joran had told me. The conversation lasted about 3 to 4 minutes.

So I thought Miko was home alone...okay, where does this woman live and has she been questioned by the ALE? You know, things like, do you ever see Joran leave his house late at night?  Does he usually leave with Deepak?  Have you ever heard Deepak's loud muffler?  Do you have any idea if Paulus had been home during the last week of May?  Did you see any of Joran's brothers with him during this weeK?  Does Anita often go away and the daddy play?  Okay, I will be good. Just one more thing, I am beginning to think Deepak needs a hearing aid with all this loud music.

There has to be an ulterior motive for all this loud music coming from Deepak's car which seems to take on a life of it's own at odd times...sort of like disguising a girl's cries for help...?  I'm all for a great music system but this music situation in his car is weird..when he could easily turn it down like any normal person would do...he doesn't. It's like his car has a mind of it's own and he can't control it.  

[robots]

i think the MONKEY SOUND that was heard on the PHONE MESSAGE
was from the RADIO in the K2 KILLER car


shock the monkey- peter gabriel

perhaps