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« Reply #280 on: June 28, 2005, 03:13:20 PM »

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With Natalee, another American girl, he likely transferred that abandonment rage upon her.


I wonder what the former American girlfriend looks like, if she resembles Natalee at all?  Far-fetched maybe, but if they do look alike he could have taken Natalee's rejection and another rejection by a past girlfriend that left him.

Just thinking out loud!!!


You read my mind.  Along those lines, I would like very much to know who SASHA is.

Joran posted numerous photos of "Sasha's" 15th birthday blowout.  It startled me how much she looks like a younger Natalee, one that's still more adolescent than woman.  

If the theory of transference is valid -- as you suggest -- then I'd like to know the link between Joran and Sasha.

From the photos, I doubt she's the American ex.  But if she is a relative, her resemblance to Natalee -- and Joran's romantic pursual of Natalee -- is beyond creepy.

http://album.pancayente.com/displayimage.php?album=19&pos=42

At the time of this posting, the link is still working.


The last time I brought up Sasha, I got trounced.  "She's a minor.  Why would you want to bring her into this?"
I do think there's a story to be told in these pictures.
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« Reply #281 on: June 28, 2005, 03:14:09 PM »

Nova reportage highlights.From the Dutch T.V.

-Paul van der Sloot released  because evidence presented was not sufficient according to magistrate .

-Prosecuter highly disappointed at the release of PvdS.

-Investigators highly disappointed as they concidered the detainment as a breaktrough in the case.

-Investigators suspect joran and the kalpoe brothers due to many contradictionary statements given by them .
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« Reply #282 on: June 28, 2005, 03:15:29 PM »

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Per Fox.. Sources say SC is part of the cover up.. I bet he is NOT off the hook yet..and also repeated about Kalpoe brothers being knee deep again because by now they would have said something..ughhh


Hey Angie...it was funny in that report a minute ago how the reporter said that SC's story (when jailed) matched up with the Kalpoe's story...but that the Kalpoe's then CHANGED their story. I am thinking they forgot to send SC the memo on that!! LOL


I thought the same thing Kerin..and I almost bet SC ends up back in jail as well... This gets more bizzare as time goes by.
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« Reply #283 on: June 28, 2005, 03:16:38 PM »

Is anyone else looking into the theory that gets talked about in the middle of the night here about possibly uncle Tom VP (relatives) at AMSouth, the articles release on June 2nd, the connection of money laundering?
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« Reply #284 on: June 28, 2005, 03:18:12 PM »

Angie...can't hang out for long today but if any of our Aruban friends come back in would you ask something? There is another post from today that says truth serum is legal to use in Aruba. Would you find out if that is true? Just wondering....
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« Reply #285 on: June 28, 2005, 03:20:23 PM »

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Is anyone else looking into the theory that gets talked about in the middle of the night here about possibly uncle Tom VP (relatives) at AMSouth, the articles release on June 2nd, the connection of money laundering?


I read it Absolut....and for my mind to even "go there" I would have to abandon every scenario I have thought about for a month and go completely in a different direction. It just does not IMO make sense....but I am sure to some it may.
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« Reply #286 on: June 28, 2005, 03:20:59 PM »

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Who is MR Pink, and why does the link to his yukky sites keep coming up in posts, did I miss something other than the Aruban Prostitute thing? I was just wondering what the link to Natalee was.....

Remember Geraldo's purported porn movie scenario?
Remember the mysterious Lorenzo rumored to be involved in porn?  Drugs rumored too.  
Rumors of the "underground" parties?  (Which I think Arubagirl did say she found hard to imagine could be kept secret)
I suppose this goes more in rumor and speculation than the fact catagory, but I cannot help feeling that these DO tie in with Natalee...exactly how I do not know.
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« Reply #287 on: June 28, 2005, 03:21:39 PM »

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Is anyone else looking into the theory that gets talked about in the middle of the night here about possibly uncle Tom VP (relatives) at AMSouth, the articles release on June 2nd, the connection of money laundering?


I haven't heard this theory--I'm sad I have to miss the discussions that go on in the middle of the night; I'm usually asleep then.

Can you post a link to this theory, or tell us daytime monkeys where to find it?
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« Reply #288 on: June 28, 2005, 03:22:03 PM »

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Angie...can't hang out for long today but if any of our Aruban friends come back in would you ask something? There is another post from today that says truth serum is legal to use in Aruba. Would you find out if that is true? Just wondering....


Sure Karin..I dont know how long I will be here as well.. I have to pick my son up from work when he calls..BUT.. I will do that..and perhaps if anyone else reads this post.. they will do the same!!
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« Reply #289 on: June 28, 2005, 03:23:24 PM »

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With Natalee, another American girl, he likely transferred that abandonment rage upon her.


I wonder what the former American girlfriend looks like, if she resembles Natalee at all?  Far-fetched maybe, but if they do look alike he could have taken Natalee's rejection and another rejection by a past girlfriend that left him.


There was an interview with a girl who knew Joran (can't remember where I saw it) and she said Joran had a thing for girls who were blonde and American tourists. I think she said his first girlfriend (the one who went to his school and dumped him) was blonde and an American.
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« Reply #290 on: June 28, 2005, 03:23:32 PM »

Lausa,
I will have to go back to some old notes but if I recall, Sasha is related to Joran (maybe a cousin?). Joran had a link from his myspace or tickle account if I recall with even more photos. (no longer working)
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« Reply #291 on: June 28, 2005, 03:23:37 PM »

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I would have to abandon every scenario I have thought about for a month and go completely in a different direction.


Exactly! Very Happy

That sounds like very good advice for everyone interested in the case, in both official and unofficial capacities.
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« Reply #292 on: June 28, 2005, 03:23:50 PM »

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Then that is extremely sad that people would not help frantic parents looking for their daughter because they didn't approach them in the "island" manner. If that's the case, then they are truly cold and heartless for not understand how upsetting it is to have a child disappear.

And you of all people should certainly understand that


TRUER WORDS WERE NEVER SPOKEN!!! How is Natalee's family supposed to know the "island way"?? Rolling Eyes All they know is their daughter is missing, and Joran was last seen w/ her... and by all accounts the VDS were kinda snotty first [/b]
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« Reply #293 on: June 28, 2005, 03:24:24 PM »

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For a totally different perspective:

This is from websleuths. If you look at the responses, MOST people think it has wings:
http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25443

They believe it explains the TWITTY-HOLLOWAY behavior.
It is also posted on Dan Riehl's site.


I've seen that. I think it might explain some of the things we're hearing (or not hearing) from the Twittys and from Mountain Brook, but doesn't explain anything directly related to the investigation.

Why would Beth H-T, just because she thought sex was involved somehow, jump to the conclusion that Natalee was being held by the Van der Sloots? Either she knows something concrete that we don't know, or she's going off of "a mother's intuition." But this really has nothing to do with speculation about Natalee's behavior, and doesn't explain some of the things that poster believes it does.



I went to that site and looked at many of the posts.  They are very very speculative and I appreciate the more objective, fact-based speculations presented at SM.  They seem to blame the Twittys for putting a "gag order" on all the teens on the trip.  Honestly, do you really think you can keep over a hundred 18y/o silent about ANYTHING?  By force nonetheless??  How would they enforce such threats?

Some on the trip have spoken to the media, but very few.  This is an extremely private situation and it is very difficult to talk about/speculate/wonder for all those involved.  Even if those kids knew everything that happened, the public is in no way entitled to that information.  Everything that the kids on the trip know has been relayed to the authorities...whether the police or the kids decide to divulge any information is not up to the public or media.
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« Reply #294 on: June 28, 2005, 03:24:57 PM »

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Is anyone else looking into the theory that gets talked about in the middle of the night here about possibly uncle Tom VP (relatives) at AMSouth, the articles release on June 2nd, the connection of money laundering?


I read it Absolut....and for my mind to even "go there" I would have to abandon every scenario I have thought about for a month and go completely in a different direction. It just does not IMO make sense....but I am sure to some it may.


This is how I feel too.  I can't really go there because then this thing becomes so very big.  I really believe this was a simple crime.  I know there are many on this board that disagree with me and I think they've done some great research on it, but IMO, like Kerin, it just doesn't make sense.
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« Reply #295 on: June 28, 2005, 03:25:57 PM »

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Dutch Marines will be helping with the search and Mr Miller is greatful for the help.


Geraldo Rivera and Bill O'Reilly are to thank for that pressure/suggestion.


On Greta last night Jug was actually begging for HELP....even my hard hearted husband was touched by this outcry......

I don't know who was responsible....but I sure do thank them and will say a special prayer for him/her ronight.


Sunny
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« Reply #296 on: June 28, 2005, 03:26:08 PM »

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With Natalee, another American girl, he likely transferred that abandonment rage upon her.


I wonder what the former American girlfriend looks like, if she resembles Natalee at all?  Far-fetched maybe, but if they do look alike he could have taken Natalee's rejection and another rejection by a past girlfriend that left him.


There was an interview with a girl who knew Joran (can't remember where I saw it) and she said Joran had a thing for girls who were blonde and American tourists. I think she said his first girlfriend (the one who went to his school and dumped him) was blonde and an American.

Hey Write, haven't you just described many teen boys?  Wink
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« Reply #297 on: June 28, 2005, 03:26:13 PM »

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Is anyone else looking into the theory that gets talked about in the middle of the night here about possibly uncle Tom VP (relatives) at AMSouth, the articles release on June 2nd, the connection of money laundering?


I haven't heard this theory--I'm sad I have to miss the discussions that go on in the middle of the night; I'm usually asleep then.

Can you post a link to this theory, or tell us daytime monkeys where to find it?


It isn't as much of a theory but additional "facts" (I use that term lightly in that believe Geraldo kinda way.) that paint kind of a different picture. Is Tom Twitty related? Why didn't the cousins go back to Aruba for the search, they were just there? Was there a kidnapping call made or not?

It has been brought up in peices and at different times. I have not had the time to really develop it into a theory, but would encourage a couple of the brilliant minds here to.
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« Reply #298 on: June 28, 2005, 03:26:20 PM »

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The sites came up during speculation early this mgn that perhaps indeed Joran had indeed done nothing to  harm Natalee ..but had taken her to one of these after-hour, underground "Rave" parties and somehow lost control of the "situation" to the "locals"..drug dealers/porno's, of whoever/where-ever this house was. And "they" were/are perhaps the ones ones responsible for "something bad" happening..and now he (Joran) is in fear of his own life due to reprisals if he reveals details.

Thats what was being kicked around this mgn


Considering Joran was supposed to be leaving very soon for college in Florida, it doesn't seem all that plausible that he would be fearing reprisal.

If Joran, Paulus, Deepak, Satish or Steve aren't talking out of fear, the FBI would instantly guarantee the van der Sloots, Kalpoes and Croes safe new lives in America in the Witness Protection Program.
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« Reply #299 on: June 28, 2005, 03:26:58 PM »

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BTW where is CaliGirl  Question


CaliGirl was scheduled to have spinal surgery either yesterday or today.  Say a prayer for her!
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