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« Reply #380 on: June 28, 2005, 04:49:36 PM »

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Riehl is now reporting that "relaible sources" are suggesting that Joran and the Kalpoe Bros. may be released next Monday. I have no idea how credible this is, but am passing it along.


Hopefull, this is as credible as their report of the "hit" by the dogs yesterday afternoon....

Not sure what you mean by this becuase the "hit" was verified to be true.
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« Reply #381 on: June 28, 2005, 04:49:57 PM »

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Why didn't he do something like other underage kids do everywhere else? Go to the mall, go to a movie, read a book, do sports, go bowling, go swimming, play tennis. Whatever doesn't involve breaking a law and developing a not-so-savory habit of gambling.


Apparently his values are derived from his dad.  I read they were in the casino together on one night, I forget which.  But apparently , since the casino is the first place PVDS looked for his son when confronted by Natalees family, it must have been common practice for JVDS to be gambling underage.  I wonder why it is that PVDS would condone his underage son driving w/o a liscense, drinking underage, and gambling underage.  It was common knowledge on the island, (according to the retired polis) that JVDS did these things and to use his words "he was out of control".  If this is true, why did Paulos ever think he would be given the judgeship? To me, it doesnt say much for the reputation of elder VDS.


True. But I guess as long as he was getting away with it, why change?


I guess my thoughts were down this line, .... If the elder VDS knew of his underage childs shennanigans, and he did not seem to care, even though he worked in the law enforcement area... Then, he must be somewhat "connected" in the LE area.  With that connection, who knows what papa VDS can "make disappear".
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« Reply #382 on: June 28, 2005, 04:52:58 PM »

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Why didn't he do something like other underage kids do everywhere else? Go to the mall, go to a movie, read a book, do sports, go bowling, go swimming, play tennis. Whatever doesn't involve breaking a law and developing a not-so-savory habit of gambling.



Apparently his values are derived from his dad.  I read they were in the casino together on one night, I forget which.  But apparently , since the casino is the first place PVDS looked for his son when confronted by Natalees family, it must have been common practice for JVDS to be gambling underage.  I wonder why it is that PVDS would condone his underage son driving w/o a liscense, drinking underage, and gambling underage.  It was common knowledge on the island, (according to the retired polis) that JVDS did these things and to use his words "he was out of control".  If this is true, why did Paulos ever think he would be given the judgeship? To me, it doesnt say much for the reputation of elder VDS.[/quote]


Apparently the drinking a gambling laws are not strict.
When I was growing up in Chicago in the 70's the drinking laws were not strict either. I started to go to bars when I was 17, the drinking age than was 19. Sometimes I got carded sometimes not. It didn't manor I had fake Id's. Most of the time we did not get carded.

Driving laws must be stricter, it's seem everyone drove Joran around, nothing mentions he was driving.
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« Reply #383 on: June 28, 2005, 04:53:47 PM »

Okay guys fellow monkeys.

I am gonna split, if not my possesive Argentinian girlfriend will put me on afection diet . " i spent more time with you guys then with her "

Nice talking to you all and have a nice day .
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« Reply #384 on: June 28, 2005, 04:54:45 PM »

I just saw the interview on Nove tv with the Van der Sloots


It`s a lot to write here literally what Paul said,so I hope that anyone dutch has seen it also and can translate a little

But a few things he said were;

He was`nt suspended..he ask for a leave of abscence because he said first I`m a father and then an officer of the law And he did want to avoid that people thought that there was something to cover beecause he works there

He told the policeofficers who came with bth and jug that night, that he picked up joran at 11
so not 4.00!

He`s a substitute judge so not a judge.

The only thing he said to the boys was don`t panick stick to your story,and he tried to explain the procedures to them b/c he suspected they come from witnesses to suspects, b/c he knows how the law works.


I`ll go and look at my vcr again to try and come with some more...
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« Reply #385 on: June 28, 2005, 04:54:56 PM »

Here we go again

The drinking underage / driving underage (how do we know he did?) / gambling underage... you don't need to be a "judge's" son to get away with that.

Because trust me, the jails would be full to bursting.
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« Reply #386 on: June 28, 2005, 04:56:07 PM »

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This is an extremely private situation and it is very difficult to talk about/speculate/wonder for all those involved.  Even if those kids knew everything that happened, the public is in no way entitled to that information.  Everything that the kids ...  know has been relayed to the authorities...whether the police or the kids decide to divulge any information is not up to the public or media.


Just an experiment, readers:
Without checking back to see which kids the poster references, how do you feel about this post?

If it's Joran & co., are you furious?
If it's the Americans... how do you feel?

Not making a judgment call.  Just curious.


I was refering the blogger that was linked above.  It was the MB kids on the trip.  Also, if charges are made or the case goes to trial...obviously all of the details will emerge.  But before this is done, the public does not have to be made privy to any of the information.  I think we as Americans are used to knowing a lot more cases before they go to trial.
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« Reply #387 on: June 28, 2005, 04:56:17 PM »

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Ok, back to this Paul Brough guy. First of all, we know he connects to prostitution in Aruba from his websites down there, so now after doing a little bit more sleuthing, I see he also owns a little boat tour company:www.doaruba.com

Domain name: doaruba.com


I'm almost afraid to ask....do we know the name of his tour boat(s)?
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« Reply #388 on: June 28, 2005, 04:58:44 PM »

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Riehl is now reporting that "relaible sources" are suggesting that Joran and the Kalpoe Bros. may be released next Monday. I have no idea how credible this is, but am passing it along.


Hopefull, this is as credible as their report of the "hit" by the dogs yesterday afternoon....

Not sure what you mean by this becuase the "hit" was verified to be true.


Then I stand corrected. I never heard about it again and it sounded/seemed like the whole thing got dropped.
So then what was the outcome of the hit?
thanks.
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« Reply #389 on: June 28, 2005, 04:59:34 PM »

"Was a florida state law or a National law, that nowadays you can protect your self in your house and car and counter with equal or deadly force when you feel threathened. And you won't go to prison."

KerinTX replied:

That is true in FL (don't think nationwide) BUT if you shoot someone who is, for example, attempting to enter your home you better make sure he lands "inside" the house when shot. I mean you can't just go around shooting people who set foot on your property.



Kerin, your comments were true until the 2005 Fl legislative session when new - and contoversial - legislation was passed.

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20050427-014730-6497r.htm
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« Reply #390 on: June 28, 2005, 04:59:53 PM »

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Riehl is now reporting that "relaible sources" are suggesting that Joran and the Kalpoe Bros. may be released next Monday. I have no idea how credible this is, but am passing it along.


How can they possibly do this with all the lies they have told?
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« Reply #391 on: June 28, 2005, 05:00:08 PM »

<<Was a florida state law or a National law, that nowadays you can protect your self in your house and car and counter with equal or deadly force when you feel threathened. And you won't go to prison.>>


What would qualify as "equal" force to match a blaring car horn?  Something tells me that a sniper from the bedroom window would be excessive.
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« Reply #392 on: June 28, 2005, 05:00:08 PM »

From what I understand, the prosecutor is from Holland.  Greta said last night that the prosecutors are sent to Aruba from Holland for 4 year terms.  Releasing the father, PVDS, was a slap in the prosecutorial face.  It essentially said, publicly, that the prosecutor's evidence, although accepted by Judge No. 1, was just not enough, according to Judge No. 2 (wonder why they brought in a different judge?  Judge No. 1 must not have been making the right calls, eh?)

If they release the 3 suspects on Monday, wouldn't that be an all-out, in-your-face insult to the prosecutor and her office?  Don't tell me there aren't politics involved here.  Wonder what the Dutch agency who sends the prosecutors every four years will say?  Interesting.  Gee, maybe that's what it will take to get the Netherlands involved in this -- a real slap-in-the-face and stay out of our money-laundering, corrupted little island, please.
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« Reply #393 on: June 28, 2005, 05:00:10 PM »

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Here we go again

The drinking underage / driving underage (how do we know he did?) / gambling underage... you don't need to be a "judge's" son to get away with that.

Because trust me, the jails would be full to bursting.

Hi Arubagirl!  Got a question for you...do you know who this person is?
http://www.mrpinkproductions.com/worldofpink.htm
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« Reply #394 on: June 28, 2005, 05:01:28 PM »

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Ok, back to this Paul Brough guy. First of all, we know he connects to prostitution in Aruba from his websites down there, so now after doing a little bit more sleuthing, I see he also owns a little boat tour company:www.doaruba.com

Domain name: doaruba.com


I'm almost afraid to ask....do we know the name of his tour boat(s)?


Windriders (Windriders are 17' trimarans that can sail 5 adults)
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« Reply #395 on: June 28, 2005, 05:02:44 PM »

<<The most troubling news now beginning to be discussed and said to have come from "reliable sources" close to the investigation point to a possible release of all suspects currently being held at the time of their next hearing, believed to be this coming Monday.>>


I guess we can expect an eviction of the Holloways and the Twittys by Bastille Day.  If only Natalee's godfather ran the hotel...
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« Reply #396 on: June 28, 2005, 05:02:57 PM »

No, I don't, klaassend. I'm sorry, but what in the hell?
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« Reply #397 on: June 28, 2005, 05:03:04 PM »

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Here we go again

The drinking underage / driving underage (how do we know he did?) / gambling underage... you don't need to be a "judge's" son to get away with that.

Because trust me, the jails would be full to bursting.

Hi Arubagirl!  Got a question for you...do you know who this person is?
http://www.mrpinkproductions.com/worldofpink.htm
Mr Pink, LMFAO.

Very interesting I must say.

I am gonna sign up to see what happens...  Wink
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« Reply #398 on: June 28, 2005, 05:03:28 PM »

As far as Aruba is concerned, I have come to regard the term "reliable source" as an oxymoron of the HIGHEST order.

I hope more details will be forthcoming about the radar! That would indicate that removing Natalee from the island or putting her into the water would be very difficult. But one question...

WHO IS IN CONTROL OF THE RADAR SYSTEM...
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« Reply #399 on: June 28, 2005, 05:03:42 PM »

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This is an extremely private situation and it is very difficult to talk about/speculate/wonder for all those involved.  Even if those kids knew everything that happened, the public is in no way entitled to that information.  Everything that the kids ...  know has been relayed to the authorities...whether the police or the kids decide to divulge any information is not up to the public or media.


Just an experiment, readers:
Without checking back to see which kids the poster references, how do you feel about this post?

If it's Joran & co., are you furious?
If it's the Americans... how do you feel?

Not making a judgment call.  Just curious.


I was refering the blogger that was linked above.  It was the MB kids on the trip.  Also, if charges are made or the case goes to trial...obviously all of the details will emerge.  But before this is done, the public does not have to be made privy to any of the information.  I think we as Americans are used to knowing a lot more cases before they go to trial.


Yes, I know you specified the kids on the trip.  I just meant that if this had been said by a Joran-supporter, it sure wouldn't fly.

Doesn't really fly for the MB kids or the family either.  

If the media directs the eyes of the world at Aruba, it must also examine *all* aspects of the case.  If the Holloway cause benefits from the media, it must also face its scrutiny.  I believe Natalee has nothing to hide.  But silence on the part of her friends calls that into question.  That's not good.

Btw, I also followed that link to the other blogger.  The discussion there was the dumbest I've ever read.



I completely agree with you about the other blogger but I do not agree with you the privacy issue.  Yes, the media has certainly put pressure on the case and brought worldwide attention.  Just because of this, I don't believe that Natalee friends and tripmates should be considered "hiding" something if they don't want to speak to national press.

This could fly for either Joran or Natalee "sides."  Everything that people connected to the case know has been relayed to the authorities.  Some of this information may be vital to the case and hurtful if released to the media.  Trust me, I want to know everything I can, just like everyone else.  But we can't demand people talk to the media or insist the govt give the media all the facts of the case.  However, if they are holding things back from the Twittys...that is different entirely.
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