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« Reply #720 on: June 28, 2005, 07:50:42 PM »

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Scott, is cuffing someone to the floor and allowing him to urinate or defecate on himslef not extreme physical abuse?  has anybody ever done that to you?  would you like it if someone did it to your loved one?  do unto others as you would have them do unto you   and don't buy off on the redefinition of torture being sold by the us government.  it is torture by any accepted norm.   it is torture, not rough interviewing.


NO, that is NOT by any definition 'extreme physical abuse'!!!

You have no idea what actions by that prisoner precluded the necessary measures taken.

I, strongly, in the most emphatic of terms endorse and advocate any means necessary to break down those terrorists at Guantanamo, to ascertain the identity of everyone they know, everywhere they've been, everything they've done, and everything they know that is planned or has been proposed for the future....We don't go far enough!!!

There are NO reported or confirmed deaths at Guantanamo.

They are illegal combatants who are NOT entitled to the protections afforded by the Geneva Convention.

Neither I nor any loved one wishes death and destruction upon the civilized world, as those detained there do.

It must warm your heart knowing these monsters are being fed honey-glazed chicken and rice pilaf, reading their Qurans, and playing soccer.


Why is this "discussion" here?


Because we don't delete post but we tell people to move or attempt to get the conversation back on track.
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« Reply #721 on: June 28, 2005, 07:50:48 PM »

Has anyone figured out how many cell towers are on Aruba?
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« Reply #722 on: June 28, 2005, 07:50:51 PM »

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Edited for pornographic content- ABSOLUT

this guy is from missouri, didn't i read somewhere that ms holloway moved to alabama 5 years ago from clinton missouri? saw an article in the clinton newspaper I think... from her best friend there writing about natalie. how beth twitty lived there.  food for thought!



Don't click....I did like afool but my computer is well protected



sorry..i just copied and pasted the link from an earlier post on this website many pages back. ( from RI here too Boy) didn't mean to offend and have it edited. oops..thought it was kind of weird that this porn guy was from the exact town where natalie and beth lived 5 years ago..
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« Reply #723 on: June 28, 2005, 07:50:56 PM »

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Can I ask a question. If somebody told me that they saw the brothers doing something suspicious but not illegal in and of itself, should I tell the cops? Even though a month has passed. I want to emphasize that I did not see it, but it was told to me. I assumed that this person told the cops, but turns out that that didn't happen.


Yes I think ya should.

Even more, can ya elaborate? Lol.  Wink


Yeah, no kidding.  Don't be a tease, Arubagirl  Wink
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« Reply #724 on: June 28, 2005, 07:50:59 PM »

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Hi guys/gals ,
back for a while....I just read a newspaper article here, and anita says; Why he has left natalee on the beach I don`t know but there were adults there! I don`t know what to think about that......

it`s from http://www.ad.nl


I would be interested to learn what efforts have been made to track down and identify those adults.


Is there anyway you could translate the article and post it here?  This seems really interesting to me.
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« Reply #725 on: June 28, 2005, 07:51:06 PM »

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Yeah, these Kalpoe bros are a true mystery to me. Doesnt sound like they had any fun at all that night.
they get to enjoy...

1) picking up Joren
2) taking Joren to a bar to p/u nat
3) 1/2 at bar?
4) chauffer Joren and Nat around the Isle (while they smooch).
5) drop Joren and Nat off
6) bugged for a ride at 3am?
7) bugged with another call even later?
 
nice nite boys. does Joren have pictures of them or something? And their reward? Prison.


This strikes me as a very important observation.  Perhaps Joran had promised them some other reward in return for them satisfying his mobility needs?


I'm kinof going along this line that something about this scenario doesnt make sense.  I mean, not to influx a New York angle into this, but this is almost mob mentality. And I dont mean to suggest that the mob is involved. what I mean is, growing up in Ozone Park/Howard beach in NYC..I've seen a lot of this type of behavior..where "wannabe's" hang out with someone who is in a position of ...authority...closer to the mob...someone who is involved...and the wannabees will hangout...take the upstart wiseguy somewhere and ..then just sit in a car and wait for hours....until he comes out and tells them what else he wants them to do or where to go..like it is a rite of passage almost...Now, not to suggest that this is mob, but ...if this is what indeed took place then its mob mentality...meaning that these brothers felt that Joran was in a position of authority....perhaps aspiring authority...and didnt mind obeying him , chauffering him...as a dues paying rite. Bottom line goes back to the dutch boy being a player, or an aspiring player  in some forum..that these others where playing up to him and doing whatever he (his family?) said. In order to get inside. "They" wernt supposed to be having fun that night. They were just supposed to be doing what they were told to do.
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« Reply #726 on: June 28, 2005, 07:51:36 PM »

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Can I ask a question. If somebody told me that they saw the brothers doing something suspicious but not illegal in and of itself, should I tell the cops? Even though a month has passed. I want to emphasize that I did not see it, but it was told to me. I assumed that this person told the cops, but turns out that that didn't happen.


Morally, yes you should.  Realisticly, be careful.  Is it possible to phone it in as an anyomous tip?
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« Reply #727 on: June 28, 2005, 07:51:43 PM »

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Per PVDS's own mouth, the back seat of the car.............of course he could be as much a liar as his son, the boy had to learn it somewhere


KackyLacky,

That could very well be the truth.  It get's crazier and  crazier everyday.  What I want to know is why didn't PVDS come forward sooner and announce this?  Does anyone else think this is odd?  All of a sudden he is brave...not that means anything...[/quote]

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I so totally agree. I guess that is why it rubbed me the wrong way, and sounded very self-serving. He is aware the public does not have information specific to this case, because it is against the law for it to be released. But he comes forth with a story, and we are just supposed to accept it as gospel. Especially when the story he tells makes no sense. Finding Natalee is most important-but he doesn't help look for her; tells his son not to help a missing girls parents; says he is not a suspect while the prosecutor's office says he is, the making love in the back seat just to besmirch Natalee's name.
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« Reply #728 on: June 28, 2005, 07:51:45 PM »

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Can I ask a question. If somebody told me that they saw the brothers doing something suspicious but not illegal in and of itself, should I tell the cops? Even though a month has passed. I want to emphasize that I did not see it, but it was told to me. I assumed that this person told the cops, but turns out that that didn't happen.


Is this just a hypothetical question or are you really asking because it has actually happened in relation to this case? You don't have to answer that to me, I am just wondering. I wouldn't answer this if I thought it was hypothetical......

I'd say, yes, tell the cops, it might be helpful, it might not, but tell them anyway. Just tell them you didn't see it yourself but you believe the person that told it you. If you think the cops will want to question the person who told it to you, give them the heads up if you think you should....

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« Reply #729 on: June 28, 2005, 07:52:16 PM »

Somebody saw the car of the brothers (the person is very familiar with the car, sees it almost daily, saw the brothers on the road at two am, going TO the direction of Montanja.


I'm going to call my cousin and let her know. She's a cop. And no, that's not the reason why I'm so gung-ho about defending the cops from corruption accusations. We're not that close.
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« Reply #730 on: June 28, 2005, 07:52:39 PM »

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Can I ask a question. If somebody told me that they saw the brothers doing something suspicious but not illegal in and of itself, should I tell the cops? Even though a month has passed. I want to emphasize that I did not see it, but it was told to me. I assumed that this person told the cops, but turns out that that didn't happen.


Yes I think ya should.

Even more, can ya elaborate? Lol.  Wink


Yeah, no kidding.  Don't be a tease, Arubagirl  Wink
Lol. Pweese? Wink
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« Reply #731 on: June 28, 2005, 07:53:22 PM »

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sorry..i just copied and pasted the link from an earlier post on this website many pages back. ( from RI here too Boy) didn't mean to offend and have it edited. oops..thought it was kind of weird that this porn guy was from the exact town where natalie and beth lived 5 years ago..


They are from Mississippi not Missouri.

I would have removed the links from everything earlier but my job was more important than verifying it was porn. Sorry for the confusion.
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« Reply #732 on: June 28, 2005, 07:53:26 PM »

nevermind.
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« Reply #733 on: June 28, 2005, 07:53:44 PM »

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Can I ask a question. If somebody told me that they saw the brothers doing something suspicious but not illegal in and of itself, should I tell the cops? Even though a month has passed. I want to emphasize that I did not see it, but it was told to me. I assumed that this person told the cops, but turns out that that didn't happen.


Morally, yes you should.  Realisticly, be careful.  Is it possible to phone it in as an anyomous tip?


Anonymous tip, a BETTER idea probably...but would it be taken seriously?

I assume this means the brothers were seen doing something suspicious around the time Natalee went missing? Such as maybe hanging around or seen carrying something, or loitering somewhere? ?? Having lunch with PVDS?
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« Reply #734 on: June 28, 2005, 07:53:45 PM »

So at 2 am they were going to Joran's?
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« Reply #735 on: June 28, 2005, 07:54:12 PM »

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Somebody saw the car of the brothers (the person is very familiar with the car, sees it almost daily, saw the brothers on the road at two am, going TO the direction of Montanja.


I'm going to call my cousin and let her know. She's a cop. And no, that's not the reason why I'm so gung-ho about defending the cops from corruption accusations. We're not that close.


That would be a very important piece of information for the investigation. If they were heading toward Montajna and not toward home, that blows their story.
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« Reply #736 on: June 28, 2005, 07:54:30 PM »

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Sorry for repeating... is this old news?

Security guard was shown on Fox saying that Deepak told him that Paul vdSloot helped concoct the Holiday Inn story with the three boys.


Holy crapoly.  I was just pokin my head in to see if there was any news.  This is new news to me.  Anything else going on??


I thought I was being ghosted.

Everyone here is debating whether Natalee had sex or not, in the car, on the beach, at the lighthouse, in a plane, on a boat, under a bridge, and on and on. Like it matters.
Welcome to my world Cav..LMAO. you are right, does not even matter.

What else to talk about with no news?


It doesn't matter if it was consensual.
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« Reply #737 on: June 28, 2005, 07:54:56 PM »

DIRECTION of his house. Direction. Direction. It's not as if the car was seen in front of the house.
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« Reply #738 on: June 28, 2005, 07:55:11 PM »

I've washed my car at 5:00 am on the weekends, at the local self serve car wash, on my way to work early or because it can get way too busy on the weekend, long lineups.......

mind you I've not vacuumed it at that time of night but then again I never vaccum at the self serve because I have a vaccum outlet in my garage,

then again it did sound like Deepak was obsessive compulsive about his car, according what his mother has said in interviews, I think she said he wouldn't let Satish drive it lest Satish get his car scratched
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« Reply #739 on: June 28, 2005, 07:55:23 PM »

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it crossed my mind that a way to pressure joran would be to put a tv monitor in his cell tuned to fox 24/7.  that would push him over the edge in nothing flat.  would it be comparable to the zaanse method?
Worse. Much, much worse.  Good idea.
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