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« Reply #320 on: June 29, 2005, 10:51:02 AM »

Hmmm...not sure what to think about the change in the official spokesperson from Croes to Jansen.
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« Reply #321 on: June 29, 2005, 10:53:01 AM »

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Hmmm...not sure what to think about the change in the official spokesperson from Croes to Jansen.


I missed that report.  Maybe she got "too cute" for them!  LOL
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« Reply #322 on: June 29, 2005, 10:53:21 AM »

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Hmmm...not sure what to think about the change in the official spokesperson from Croes to Jansen.


Some on here will be very disheartened to learn of this change but not because of the case.
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« Reply #323 on: June 29, 2005, 10:54:34 AM »

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I suspect that there may be former date-rape victims of Joran van der Sloot lurking on this forum. If you are such a person, then I would advise you to contact the FBI or to send a private message to one of the founders of this forum. As a participant on this forum, I can attest that the founders of this forum are people of integrity and are people whom you can trust. You may wish to work out an agreement with them as to how you want that information to be handled, but I would urge anyone who has been victimized by this man, or who feels that she may have been given a date-rape drug by him, to have your voice heard. I will make a similar announcement at Riehl World.


It seem to be fishing for this, the last couple of weeks now, would we get more mileage if more MB students came forth to give an idea of the state of mind of Natalee, the sighthings of Joran in the Casino, the parties at SBF? We know nothing about the the friends that were there...I don't get the motive of 2 best friend of Nat, leaving at 12 o clock, I think it was Byrd and McVay, said they left CnC at 12 why? We do not know what the fighting in CnC was all about nor a previous fight before that?   I hear CnC creates a criminal environment conducive to some nefarious kidnapping/sex trade/drug scenario.  Yet most of the MB went there for the several visit, one even said it a nice place to hang out...
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« Reply #324 on: June 29, 2005, 10:54:48 AM »

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A couple things really bother me:

I do believe the Renfro confirmation on Joran being on the bus at 6:50...given that THIS IS A VERY TIGHT TIMELINE!!!  Even tighter than I originally thought.  I have to believe if Joran was engaged in foul play with Natalee that he had HELP from above (meaning dear old dad).  I think it's significant that reports are that he is a brilliant legal mind and can find all kinds of loop holes in the law, etc.  

I'm also very concerned about Steve Croes, what knucklehead just comes forward out of the clear blue!! I don't buy it for a second.  It's possible...there are airheads everywhere.  But, I doubt this is the case.

Also, I'm pissed LE had such little respect for Mickey that they didn't even get a statement from him regarding info Deepak told him. That info may well have moved the interrogations forward, AND possibly kept daddy behind bars.


I agree Nancy Drew....  I think PVDS will go back to jail anyday and SC perhaps as well.. I remember hearing on FOX the other day that they arnt out of the clear yet.. they are STILL suspects and can be easily arrested again. If my memory serves me right.. SandraK said that she is friends with someone who is firends with SC.. she said he dont know JVDS.. but never made mention of the other 2 boys..
  Hmm reporter on now saying SC was looking for reward money.. and thats not the case and he could be somehow complicit in the crime.. I guess the boys forgot to send him a memo that they changed his stories..
  They think PVDS helped by telling the boys not to say anything when MJ was arrested..  and he knows much more then he is telling.
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« Reply #325 on: June 29, 2005, 10:54:53 AM »

I am getting mad at FOX. They are showing Mickey's interview again and prefaced it by saying that Mickey John SAID PVDS was involved. If you watch Mickey, at first he does NOT say daddy was. (per Deepak)
Can it be, with both Mickey and SC, that the language barrier is such that when Greta is in your face asking questions, maybe they don't understand this "fast talking" journalist and misunderstand the question?
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« Reply #326 on: June 29, 2005, 10:55:45 AM »

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Hmmm...not sure what to think about the change in the official spokesperson from Croes to Jansen.


I missed that report.  Maybe she got "too cute" for them!  LOL


Yep Nancy...that must be it!  Very Happy
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« Reply #327 on: June 29, 2005, 10:56:57 AM »

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Hmmm...not sure what to think about the change in the official spokesperson from Croes to Jansen.


Some on here will be very disheartened to learn of this change but not because of the case.


Can you blame us?  She was cute.  She was not forth coming with a lot of information but neither will Jansen.
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« Reply #328 on: June 29, 2005, 10:58:02 AM »

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daniel, that is just semantics........he has enough information to form an opinion, info we can't see, so it is reasonable to believe his opinion is on the path of conclusion
It might well be, but until he can prove that she is either dead or alive, he can only express a belief. It would be very unprofessional to do otherwise.

Of course, when they KNOW that she is either dead or alive and telling that won't hurt the investigations, he will say so (after informing the parents and US authorities).
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« Reply #329 on: June 29, 2005, 10:58:31 AM »

Hey All!!!!!!  Anything new?  Did her mom say she had info that makes her think she is still alive?
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« Reply #330 on: June 29, 2005, 10:59:36 AM »

The reporter on Fox also said IF there was a homicide.. and a body placed on the western part of the island.. it would not wash to shore...the currents are too strong.
 SO.. if that COULD be the case.. are they seraching the area where a body could possibly wash up?
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« Reply #331 on: June 29, 2005, 11:01:43 AM »

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I will make a similar announcement at Riehl World.


It seem to be fishing for this, the last couple of weeks now, would we get more mileage if more MB students came forth to give an idea of the state of mind of Natalee, the sighthings of Joran in the Casino, the parties at SBF? We know nothing about the the friends that were there...I don't get the motive of 2 best friend of Nat, leaving at 12 o clock, I think it was Byrd and McVay, said they left CnC at 12 why? We do not know what the fighting in CnC was all about nor a previous fight before that?   I hear CnC creates a criminal environment conducive to some nefarious kidnapping/sex trade/drug scenario.  Yet most of the MB went there for the several visit, one even said it a nice place to hang out...


As has been posted on this site. Their statements given at this time may be --revised -- from what they might have seen earlier because of contact and exposure to opinions of others. I would suggest leaving them alone at this time. It has been reported that the FBI interviewed all earlier.
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« Reply #332 on: June 29, 2005, 11:02:43 AM »

Good morning everyone.  Trying to read through all posts since I left yesterday!  How is everyone?
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« Reply #333 on: June 29, 2005, 11:02:59 AM »

I don't buy it. I think it's just "island mentality." I think the Arubans were protective of Paul and Joran van der Sloot, because he was "one of them," and they didn't care how Mickey John was treated because wasn't "one of them." He was Grenadan. And I think that the corruption that we see in the police department goes way beyond just a "few bad cops." On this incestuous island, it seems to seep into every nook and cranny of island life. That is why we have Steven Croes coming forward to offer a false alibi for his homey, and why we have women lining up to hand flowers and potted plants over the van der Sloot's front gate. And that is why, when Deepaks story started to unravel, he started to refer to Joran as "the Dutch boy." (Meaning: Not from Aruba) And that is why the life of one "tourist" is less important than the "tone" used in addressing one of the island's permanent residents. Just a hunch.

And, by the way, the police were with the Twittys. And they didn't even knock on the door. They waited patiently, outside the gate, and beeped the horn for 30 minutes.
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« Reply #334 on: June 29, 2005, 11:03:34 AM »

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The reporter on Fox also said IF there was a homicide.. and a body placed on the western part of the island.. it would not wash to shore...the currents are too strong.
 SO.. if that COULD be the case.. are they seraching the area where a body could possibly wash up?


LOL Now I am quoting myself.. they just said that the Dutch marines will search the ocean..the more difficult areas that the average person can get to!
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« Reply #335 on: June 29, 2005, 11:06:40 AM »

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SC "just wanted to meet" deepak and offered up a false statement to LE in order to be with him.


Now that is just strange. Even on his way to the airport, annoyed with Greta, Steve said he knew Deepak as a client. Not clear if he meant that he, Steve, uses the internet cafe, or if Deepak had used Steve as a DJ but  "wanting to meet him" just sounds bizarre on a tiny island that does not have hundreds of internet cafes or party boat DJs.

Wouldn't most people who ever used either cafe or boat know both Steve and Deepak as clients?


I know, but Julia says SC did not know deepak, and wanted to meet him, he had heard deepak on the phone, and SC walked up to him and said, yea I saw that girl stumble that night in front of HI---what is even more interesting is that deepak knew it was a lie when SC said that, and he let SC go forth to LE with the lie.
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« Reply #336 on: June 29, 2005, 11:08:12 AM »

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Hi KackyLacky &  < Hi Angie Very Happy

No nothing new so far, only the article in the newspaper wich NL put on this board a couple of post back. And the interview yesterday of the vds on national tv here on Novatv but i guess you`ve heard about it already.

Nothing new about the dogs 'hit' ?


Thank you Cat for your post Wink


no I have heard nothing yet.
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« Reply #337 on: June 29, 2005, 11:08:48 AM »

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WHEW...NANcY thank you!! Kerin, thank you!! I have a monkey!!!!

I love That Monkey  Very Happy
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« Reply #338 on: June 29, 2005, 11:11:15 AM »

I suspect that the spokesperson was changed because the Dutch media is now involved.
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« Reply #339 on: June 29, 2005, 11:12:25 AM »

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is there a possibility that the body could have been cremated? is it crazy to think that the level of this could include someone having powerful enough connections and payoffs to do something on this level?


At this point.. nothing would suprise me anymore.


Did you ask this question last night?  Or was that someone else?  Anyway, when the question was raised, I did a Google on crematorium in Aruba, and not-so-surprisingly, there was information on one being built in 2004.

Perhaps either pops or the Godfather had access.
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