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« Reply #400 on: June 29, 2005, 11:56:57 AM »

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Hey guys..something is really bugging me and has piqued my curiosity...Just night before last Jug and Beth were on and they were infuriated with the release of PVDS, and rightly so IMHO..However, last night he sort of seemed a little calmer and was asked about his change of heart, as I am sure you guys already know..Then, it was followed up with, " is there a reason why you feel better? so  do you know something we do not that you  have found out today?"..His response was .."yes...something has been brought to my attention today that makes me feel we are moving in the direction we need to be..."(paraphrasing)... I just wonder..what this is..any ideas as to what couldve manifested quite so quickly?


Nikki, you are a nurse. Could the difference be Prozac?



LOL..not with that dramatic of a change...it would HAVE to be stronger...LOL
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« Reply #401 on: June 29, 2005, 11:58:07 AM »

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I heard Mickey say that he wasnt sure who else was considered to be "family" but that the father was definitely involved.  This was on Greta - how come I am seemingly the only one who heard that statement??


i heard that as well mishj. he actually said the same thing in two different ways - possibly a language issue.


Hey Lex Prof--I was born in Lex! Just wanted to say hi--haven't seen you around here before.

Regarding your statement: I must have missed Mickey saying he wasn't sure who else was considered family. I wonder what that means. How many people were involved in making up the original story?
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« Reply #402 on: June 29, 2005, 11:58:23 AM »

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Yes they did, Professor. The "lead in" story was....next we have an interview with one of the released security guards, Mickey John, who said that Paulus VDS was involved in making up the cover story. Then they went to the tape. It is the misleading lead-in that infuriates me!


While it is admittedly distorting the precise language Mickey used, please share with us any other plausible inference in the use of the word "family" that does NOT implicate Paulus as well.

Scott...calm down. My point was...I didn't like the lead-in being stated that MJ SAID the father was involved in the cover story. Then when you actually see the tape, Greta asks him 2-3 times and each time he does NOT say father...until the last time and I believe (could be wrong) that Greta states father first..and then MJ agrees. MY opinion was that maybe Greta's pressing MJ made him include the word father? This would also be based on the fact that I was sent FOM's phone conversation with MJ which happened earlier in the day.

My second point was on SC. He is driving away and Greta is in his face with a microphone asking questions and it is obvious that he wants to not only drive away but that he is somewhat confused at either her fats-talking or he is just plain "dumb" (based on the facts of his arrest I will go with the latter).

So, YES...I am fully aware that English is MJ's first language. No need to be so condescending. I am merely stating my opinion that maybe on SC the language barrier (or fast talking) was an issue and that on MJ it could have been the approach.


He told me she kept trying to get him to say fatherr
I noticed also how primer was misleading..still he says everyone know pvds involved from the start but by family it "could be tom/dick/harry"


THANK YOU, FOM. Obviously I was not speaking clearly enough.


If he could tell u himself he would
HOW is it we were not aware big cover --we went thru this..he says everybody knows, man.../maybe this info was never taken seriously for a reason?? The lady Gtera interviewd after seemed non chalant about it IMO any one else see her?? Dark hair can't think of name...they were sitting in captains chairs outside right after mickey on w/ greta.

Marianne Croes or the reporter from the Aruban paper?
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« Reply #403 on: June 29, 2005, 11:58:30 AM »

Can they keep the "suspects" in custody and charge them with a crime without a body?
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« Reply #404 on: June 29, 2005, 11:59:50 AM »

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Yes they did, Professor. The "lead in" story was....next we have an interview with one of the released security guards, Mickey John, who said that Paulus VDS was involved in making up the cover story. Then they went to the tape. It is the misleading lead-in that infuriates me!


While it is admittedly distorting the precise language Mickey used, please share with us any other plausible inference in the use of the word "family" that does NOT implicate Paulus as well.

Scott...calm down. My point was...I didn't like the lead-in being stated that MJ SAID the father was involved in the cover story. Then when you actually see the tape, Greta asks him 2-3 times and each time he does NOT say father...until the last time and I believe (could be wrong) that Greta states father first..and then MJ agrees. MY opinion was that maybe Greta's pressing MJ made him include the word father? This would also be based on the fact that I was sent FOM's phone conversation with MJ which happened earlier in the day.

My second point was on SC. He is driving away and Greta is in his face with a microphone asking questions and it is obvious that he wants to not only drive away but that he is somewhat confused at either her fats-talking or he is just plain "dumb" (based on the facts of his arrest I will go with the latter).

So, YES...I am fully aware that English is MJ's first language. No need to be so condescending. I am merely stating my opinion that maybe on SC the language barrier (or fast talking) was an issue and that on MJ it could have been the approach.


He told me she kept trying to get him to say fatherr
I noticed also how primer was misleading..still he says everyone know pvds involved from the start but by family it "could be tom/dick/harry"


THANK YOU, FOM. Obviously I was not speaking clearly enough.


If he could tell u himself he would
HOW is it we were not aware big cover --we went thru this..he says everybody knows, man.../maybe this info was never taken seriously for a reason?? The lady Gtera interviewd after seemed non chalant about it IMO any one else see her?? Dark hair can't think of name...they were sitting in captains chairs outside right after mickey on w/ greta.

Marianne Croes or the reporter from the Aruban paper?



Reporter if female then ...thanx Kerin
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« Reply #405 on: June 29, 2005, 11:59:54 AM »

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Hey guys..something is really bugging me and has piqued my curiosity...Just night before last Jug and Beth were on and they were infuriated with the release of PVDS, and rightly so IMHO..However, last night he sort of seemed a little calmer and was asked about his change of heart, as I am sure you guys already know..Then, it was followed up with, " is there a reason why you feel better? so  do you know something we do not that you  have found out today?"..His response was .."yes...something has been brought to my attention today that makes me feel we are moving in the direction we need to be..."(paraphrasing)... I just wonder..what this is..any ideas as to what couldve manifested quite so quickly?


Nikki, you are a nurse. Could the difference be Prozac?


wtf? Everybodys on drugs now.  Prozac takes WEEKS to work professor not instant like xanax.


I don't think it has anything to do with drugs.  Even though I wouldn't blame them for taking a sedative of some sort.  I DO think it has to do with their meetings yesterday with Aruban officials. They were told something there.  

Also, I think Beth Twitty is depressed...she isn't powered by the huge initial searches involving tons of people. Yes, she has her family and friends which is huge...but, now has quiet moments to deal with her loss and pain.  It's all very sad, and as a mother of four...it breaks my heart to watch her.  She is also an inspiration and example of great maternal strength.  She is very courageous.
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« Reply #406 on: June 29, 2005, 12:00:20 PM »

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Hey guys..something is really bugging me and has piqued my curiosity...Just night before last Jug and Beth were on and they were infuriated with the release of PVDS, and rightly so IMHO..However, last night he sort of seemed a little calmer and was asked about his change of heart, as I am sure you guys already know..Then, it was followed up with, " is there a reason why you feel better? so  do you know something we do not that you  have found out today?"..His response was .."yes...something has been brought to my attention today that makes me feel we are moving in the direction we need to be..."(paraphrasing)... I just wonder..what this is..any ideas as to what couldve manifested quite so quickly?


Nikki, you are a nurse. Could the difference be Prozac?


wtf? Everybodys on drugs now.  Prozac takes WEEKS to work professor not instant like xanax.


Hey, what do I know. I'm not on the stuff. Yet.



And Professor, i knew you were being facetious, however, Taz is right..it does take 2 -6 weeks to develop a level of prozac in your bllod for it to be effective..But, i wouldnt doubt it at all if Beth is not medicated...I know if I were her I would HAVE to be..without a doubt, her endurance is something I could only dream to have... Very Happy
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« Reply #407 on: June 29, 2005, 12:00:30 PM »

Nancy...do you have the link that some posted to reduce the size of an avatar?
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« Reply #408 on: June 29, 2005, 12:01:44 PM »

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I heard it too...looking now for video of it on foxnews.com.  

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I heard Mickey say that he wasnt sure who else was considered to be "family" but that the father was definitely involved.  This was on Greta - how come I am seemingly the only one who heard that statement??
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MJ said " I don't what the family consists of, I know the father was involved" they just showed the tape again
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« Reply #409 on: June 29, 2005, 12:01:56 PM »

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I don't think it has anything to do with drugs.  Even though I wouldn't blame them for taking a sedative of some sort.  I DO think it has to do with their meetings yesterday with Aruban officials. They were told something there.  

Also, I think Beth Twitty is depressed...she isn't powered by the huge initial searches involving tons of people. Yes, she has her family and friends which is huge...but, now has quiet moments to deal with her loss and pain.  It's all very sad, and as a mother of four...it breaks my heart to watch her.  She is also an inspiration and example of great maternal strength.  She is very courageous.


Youre right nancy I think they have been given some pieces of information from investigators that provide more conclusively that Natalee isnt alive.  I think they have resigned to that now and its showing in their faces. Nothing we are hearing says Natalee could be alive anymore.
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« Reply #410 on: June 29, 2005, 12:02:27 PM »

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Nancy...do you have the link that some posted to reduce the size of an avatar?


No, I just used my own program to reduce the size.  I'm happy to do it again, if anyone needs it.

nancy_drew@mac.com (underscore between nancy and drew)

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« Reply #411 on: June 29, 2005, 12:02:40 PM »

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I don't think it has anything to do with drugs.  Even though I wouldn't blame them for taking a sedative of some sort.  I DO think it has to do with their meetings yesterday with Aruban officials. They were told something there.  

Also, I think Beth Twitty is depressed...she isn't powered by the huge initial searches involving tons of people. Yes, she has her family and friends which is huge...but, now has quiet moments to deal with her loss and pain.  It's all very sad, and as a mother of four...it breaks my heart to watch her.  She is also an inspiration and example of great maternal strength.  She is very courageous.[/quote]

The family has shown amazing strength...I know that whatever happened to NH she fought hard-as hard as her mom is...Amazing people.
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« Reply #412 on: June 29, 2005, 12:02:42 PM »

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I've been thinking...

Mickey Johns comments to Greta might well open the door to bringing Anita in as a witness/suspect.  Not that I think she's involved...but, since Johns refers to "family"....she could/should be brought in for questioning about any possible "family" conversations took place after the evening Natalee went missing.

I think that woman would CRACK big time under bright lights and interrogation.


Anita was not home when the lie was initiated.
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« Reply #413 on: June 29, 2005, 12:03:19 PM »

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Hey guys..something is really bugging me and has piqued my curiosity...Just night before last Jug and Beth were on and they were infuriated with the release of PVDS, and rightly so IMHO..However, last night he sort of seemed a little calmer and was asked about his change of heart, as I am sure you guys already know..Then, it was followed up with, " is there a reason why you feel better? so  do you know something we do not that you  have found out today?"..His response was .."yes...something has been brought to my attention today that makes me feel we are moving in the direction we need to be..."(paraphrasing)... I just wonder..what this is..any ideas as to what couldve manifested quite so quickly?


Don't flame me, but Jug seemed as though he might have had a drink or two to calm himself.  Maybe some kind of medication.
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« Reply #414 on: June 29, 2005, 12:03:39 PM »

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Hey guys..something is really bugging me and has piqued my curiosity...Just night before last Jug and Beth were on and they were infuriated with the release of PVDS, and rightly so IMHO..However, last night he sort of seemed a little calmer and was asked about his change of heart, as I am sure you guys already know..Then, it was followed up with, " is there a reason why you feel better? so  do you know something we do not that you  have found out today?"..His response was .."yes...something has been brought to my attention today that makes me feel we are moving in the direction we need to be..."(paraphrasing)... I just wonder..what this is..any ideas as to what couldve manifested quite so quickly?


I would surmise it was Greta informing him of Mickey's use of the word "family", thus implicating the father.

Perhaps, he, as I wrongfully presumed, thought that Paulus would have been re-arrested by this morning, at the latest, once Mickey's account of what was said, was corroborated by Deepak.

If Deepak changes his story under questioning, and says he didn't say "family", he risks further implicating himself in Natalee's disappearance.
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« Reply #415 on: June 29, 2005, 12:04:25 PM »

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Hey guys..something is really bugging me and has piqued my curiosity...Just night before last Jug and Beth were on and they were infuriated with the release of PVDS, and rightly so IMHO..However, last night he sort of seemed a little calmer and was asked about his change of heart, as I am sure you guys already know..Then, it was followed up with, " is there a reason why you feel better? so  do you know something we do not that you  have found out today?"..His response was .."yes...something has been brought to my attention today that makes me feel we are moving in the direction we need to be..."(paraphrasing)... I just wonder..what this is..any ideas as to what couldve manifested quite so quickly?


Don't flame me, but Jug seemed as though he might have had a drink or two to calm himself.  Maybe some kind of medication.


Geez, I would need some meds too!
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« Reply #416 on: June 29, 2005, 12:04:39 PM »

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I heard Mickey say that he wasnt sure who else was considered to be "family" but that the father was definitely involved.  This was on Greta - how come I am seemingly the only one who heard that statement??


i heard that as well mishj. he actually said the same thing in two different ways - possibly a language issue.


Hey Lex Prof--I was born in Lex! Just wanted to say hi--haven't seen you around here before.

Regarding your statement: I must have missed Mickey saying he wasn't sure who else was considered family. I wonder what that means. How many people were involved in making up the original story?


hi there BlueKyGirl! i have only been here about a year (professor at UK) but really love it.

As for Mickey's comment I had a mental image of mom and pop van der sloot and the three boys hunched over a table conspiring. if it happen "the night of" obviously mom would not have been there to be involved.
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« Reply #417 on: June 29, 2005, 12:04:40 PM »

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Is it just me, or does it seem a bit too convenient that MJ didn't mention anything about the "family" in his earlier statements (when it would have been useful) and only added that to his story after PVDS had been taken into custody? Seems to me that he just wants to get even or something.

He is surprised that this is news to us at all.  He says "everybody know from start judge know somethin the way he running from the cameras"


Right FOM--- and I posted earlier a couple of live interview transcripts where Mickey says "they" just as he says now.
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« Reply #418 on: June 29, 2005, 12:04:48 PM »

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Hey guys..something is really bugging me and has piqued my curiosity...Just night before last Jug and Beth were on and they were infuriated with the release of PVDS, and rightly so IMHO..However, last night he sort of seemed a little calmer and was asked about his change of heart, as I am sure you guys already know..Then, it was followed up with, " is there a reason why you feel better? so  do you know something we do not that you  have found out today?"..His response was .."yes...something has been brought to my attention today that makes me feel we are moving in the direction we need to be..."(paraphrasing)... I just wonder..what this is..any ideas as to what couldve manifested quite so quickly?

Don't flame me, but Jug seemed as though he might have had a drink or two to calm himself.  Maybe some kind of medication.
wouldn't blame him. Crying or Very sad
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« Reply #419 on: June 29, 2005, 12:04:52 PM »

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Hey guys..something is really bugging me and has piqued my curiosity...Just night before last Jug and Beth were on and they were infuriated with the release of PVDS, and rightly so IMHO..However, last night he sort of seemed a little calmer and was asked about his change of heart, as I am sure you guys already know..Then, it was followed up with, " is there a reason why you feel better? so  do you know something we do not that you  have found out today?"..His response was .."yes...something has been brought to my attention today that makes me feel we are moving in the direction we need to be..."(paraphrasing)... I just wonder..what this is..any ideas as to what couldve manifested quite so quickly?


Perhaps it was the voice analysis test that might occur today.
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