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« Reply #640 on: June 29, 2005, 02:54:26 PM »

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Did anyone else hear this, late last night?

At the top of the hour, at 1 a.m. EST, here in the USA, on ABC RADIO news, I heard it stated that a young woman had come forward and stated that when she had been vacationing in Aruba, she remembers quite very well that Joran 'hit' on her and was trying again & again & again to LURE HER AWAY.

The report did not identify the young woman.

They ended up stating that Aruban LE authorities would now investigate as to whether Joran has a long history as a predator upon foreign female tourists visiting Aruba.

Newshound, funny you should mention that as Caligirl and I were able to uncover some examples of that by following Joran's "friends" through the web of his tickle and myspace accounts before they were changed/deleted. Luckily we cached the sites and passed them along..not saying they will help but maybe so.
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« Reply #641 on: June 29, 2005, 02:55:04 PM »

Please do not quote a post with a link you don't agree with, if it is considered to be spamming the board, it will take forever to get ride of all of the references.
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« Reply #642 on: June 29, 2005, 02:55:26 PM »

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if the ex-boyfriend was on trip, that would make sense....but jug????????
wasn't he miles away? and the only other possiblities(business related) seem to be long shots.
If I understand correctly, there have been rumors online somewhere that I read about, that prior to the HS graduation trip, that a large insurance policy was taken out on Natalee- which included a kidnapping clause.

On different forums, I've noticed posters asking IF this is true, and HOW to determine if such a thing was true.

I do not know where the rumor originated.


Many days back the company was listed on here, but I believe it was a policy that originated  with the travel agency.


I don't believe any of the insurance scam scenarios but for what it is worth Natalee's father, Dave, is a State Farm insurance agent.  Not saying that is where the policy was purchased, if one at all, just where he works.
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« Reply #643 on: June 29, 2005, 02:56:08 PM »

Wow!!!!  What has happened to this board?  Ban Aruba?  Stepdaddy?  Ok this is getting nuts.  Kerin, what is the story with the Mcvea kid?
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« Reply #644 on: June 29, 2005, 02:56:27 PM »

I don`t think that a lot of people have seen the interview last night of the vdsloots....Paul said he didn`t make a story up for the boys, the only thing he said what was misunderstoud over and over again, is; b/c he knows as an attorney himself how the procedure is, he said that if notting occured then stick with your story! Also he knows that you as a witness can become a suspect. He didn`t want them to panic and just tell the truth..nothing more nothing less, it`s all blowing again out of proportions. By the way he didn`t know at the time that they were lying!
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« Reply #645 on: June 29, 2005, 02:57:45 PM »

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Kerin!
You solved it, UBL has her! Bet he needed her to clean his cave!  These rumors about insurance scams, reports of beth reporting her missing before she was missing, Dad being secret service and a foriegn gov took her, sex slavery, drug queen, whatever......sometimes really sound ridiculous to me. As you notice I don't answer them or respond to them.
But I have watched enough TV to know odd things happen. However, if UBL or a colombian drug lord wanted her, why did joran and the bros kalpoe make up a lie before they even needed a lie? Why did they implicate 2 innocent men in a crime and go about their lives while innocent men sat in jail?

Kacky, thanks for posting that and being the voice of reason. I was away taking blood pressure meds.  Wink


 Arrow maybe silly question but who/what is UBL???
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« Reply #646 on: June 29, 2005, 02:58:16 PM »

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"Deep, I am just wondering...if only Joran was dropped at the beach why would all 3 need to be in on Daddy's story? Also, if they figured Natalee would show up in the next few days, why would they even have the need to make up a story? In that sceanrio, why wouldn't daddy just have Joran admit he was on the beach with her? I would have thought in that scenario that the worst daddy would have thought Joran did was rape/have sex with Natalee and that he may need to make up a story for THAT (possible rape charges).




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That's exactly right, There is no reason for the 3 to lie and make up a story with daddy VDS help if "something bad" sis not occur! I keep going back to the AP breaking report that stated that Joran confessed that "something bad" happened and that he wa taking the police to the dump site."

1 - "something bad happened" was not said by the boys but by a reporter and then carried by the MSM

2 - put yourself in the boys place.  You get out of school on Monday afternoon, meet up with buddies and see a TV somewhere or get a call that says "hey - you btter watch the Tele".  When you see who is missing - OH MY GOD!  Then the converations with your buddies really start.  They all knew they were the last ones with her and people had seen them and they also knew that Joren was with her last.  They probably questioned him at length about what happened on the beach and he repeatedly said "nothing!".  Then they went to poppa VDS and asked what to do.


Deep - they wouldn't know that they were the last ones with her unless they knew what happened to her and that no one else had seen her.  You're assuming that they KNEW they were the last ones to see her.  A person of any reason would have seen what was on TV and said I better call the cops and let them know what I know.

Give the cops the REAL story (not a lie) and then help with the search.  A reasonable person does not automatically assume they have something to hide unless they do have something to hide.
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« Reply #647 on: June 29, 2005, 02:58:32 PM »

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Wow!!!!  What has happened to this board?  Ban Aruba?  Stepdaddy?  Ok this is getting nuts.  Kerin, what is the story with the Mcvea kid?


Hey Shell!!!  I've got to go for a minute but will be back in a few.  Good to see you, haven't seen you on in a few days, but maybe we have just been on at different times!!   Very Happy
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« Reply #648 on: June 29, 2005, 02:59:25 PM »

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Did anyone else hear this, late last night?

At the top of the hour, at 1 a.m. EST, here in the USA, on ABC RADIO news, I heard it stated that a young woman had come forward and stated that when she had been vacationing in Aruba, she remembers quite very well that Joran 'hit' on her and was trying again & again & again to LURE HER AWAY.

The report did not identify the young woman.

They ended up stating that Aruban LE authorities would now investigate as to whether Joran has a long history as a predator upon foreign female tourists visiting Aruba.
Yes, I saw a picture of her. She appeared to be a little over weight.

WTH???? You did NOT just say that!!!!!!
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« Reply #649 on: June 29, 2005, 02:59:41 PM »

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Did anyone else hear this, late last night?

At the top of the hour, at 1 a.m. EST, here in the USA, on ABC RADIO news, I heard it stated that a young woman had come forward and stated that when she had been vacationing in Aruba, she remembers quite very well that Joran 'hit' on her and was trying again & again & again to LURE HER AWAY.

The report did not identify the young woman.

They ended up stating that Aruban LE authorities would now investigate as to whether Joran has a long history as a predator upon foreign female tourists visiting Aruba.
Yes, I saw a picture of her. She appeared to be a little over weight.


If it was on the radio, where is a picture of her, so I can see and read this story. Thanks


I cannot remember if it was on the net or on televison last night. I did not hear it on the radio.  If I run across the article I will ping you to it.
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« Reply #650 on: June 29, 2005, 03:00:05 PM »

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If I understand correctly, there have been rumors online somewhere that I read about, that prior to the HS graduation trip, that a large insurance policy was taken out on Natalee- which included a kidnapping clause.


But Natalee's father Dave Holloway SELLS INSURANCE. He's with State Farm. I'm sure if there's one thing both the Holloways and Twittys have is good insurance. And everyone gets trip insurance, especially if they travel to a foreign country. That's just common practice. I don't see that that's a motivation for her disappearance.
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« Reply #651 on: June 29, 2005, 03:00:28 PM »

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Wow!!!!  What has happened to this board?  Ban Aruba?  Stepdaddy?  Ok this is getting nuts.  Kerin, what is the story with the Mcvea kid?


Hey Shell!!!  I've got to go for a minute but will be back in a few.  Good to see you, haven't seen you on in a few days, but maybe we have just been on at different times!!   Very Happy


Yeah I had to go to a party Monday, just now recovering!!!!!
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« Reply #652 on: June 29, 2005, 03:00:47 PM »

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Kerin!
You solved it, UBL has her! Bet he needed her to clean his cave!  These rumors about insurance scams, reports of beth reporting her missing before she was missing, Dad being secret service and a foriegn gov took her, sex slavery, drug queen, whatever......sometimes really sound ridiculous to me. As you notice I don't answer them or respond to them.
But I have watched enough TV to know odd things happen. However, if UBL or a colombian drug lord wanted her, why did joran and the bros kalpoe make up a lie before they even needed a lie? Why did they implicate 2 innocent men in a crime and go about their lives while innocent men sat in jail?

Kacky, thanks for posting that and being the voice of reason. I was away taking blood pressure meds.  Wink


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 Arrow maybe silly question but who/what is UBL???
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« Reply #653 on: June 29, 2005, 03:00:56 PM »

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Did anyone else hear this, late last night?

At the top of the hour, at 1 a.m. EST, here in the USA, on ABC RADIO news, I heard it stated that a young woman had come forward and stated that when she had been vacationing in Aruba, she remembers quite very well that Joran 'hit' on her and was trying again & again & again to LURE HER AWAY.

The report did not identify the young woman.

They ended up stating that Aruban LE authorities would now investigate as to whether Joran has a long history as a predator upon foreign female tourists visiting Aruba.
Yes, I saw a picture of her. She appeared to be a little over weight.

WTH???? You did NOT just say that!!!!!!


Whether she was overweight or not is not in any way relevant here.
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« Reply #654 on: June 29, 2005, 03:01:13 PM »

Can someone please post the link for Edited for content request IT IS PORN-ABSOLUT?  Also, can someone explain the connection between him, Lorenzo and this case? Thank you.
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« Reply #655 on: June 29, 2005, 03:03:21 PM »

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Hi all.....

Any more news on whether the quarry has been cleared by the Texas Equsearch team?

Thanks......
From what I understand, they will not be announcing much about the Equusearch results, nor tell much about WHERE they are searching.

The reason they do not want such information in the media is that it would be helpful to the criminal perpetrators who would then know where it would be safe to move a body to --- IF they have a body which they need to move.

So too, they do not want to say, "Oh, tomorrow, Equusearch will go to these specific locations..." cuz then the perps could potentially remove a body from that location --- IF, indeed, there was a body or any other type of incriminating evidence to remove.


If they went to the quary and found nothing that means that there hit was not a hit. The dogs may be in a new situation and got confused.  I know they had said, maybe because of Geraldo, gave a 'will find Nat today or tommorow attitude.", just like when Rudy Croes or Jossy Mansur or every cop in Aruba said the famous 'will be solved in 24hours' deal.    I m still not sure if a playa fronting like Joran or a bookworm, softspoken, like Paulus or the softies like Kalpoes are the hardened criminals, cold calculating drug/sex traders pulled this off or not.
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« Reply #656 on: June 29, 2005, 03:03:22 PM »

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if only Joran was dropped at the beach why would all 3 need to be in on Daddy's story? Also, if they figured Natalee would show up in the next few days, why would they even have the need to make up a story? In that sceanrio, why wouldn't daddy just have Joran admit he was on the beach with her? I would have thought in that scenario that the worst daddy would have thought Joran did was rape/have sex with Natalee and that he may need to make up a story for THAT (possible rape charges).


But would Paul even get that upset over Joran facing a rape charge? American culture is different. We tend to be more prude-y than the Dutch about sex. I just don't see Papa getting that upset about it or even worrying about it.

But now kidnapping or death -- those are totally different ballgames.


I agree...pvds would easily dismiss date rape -he would get joran off
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« Reply #657 on: June 29, 2005, 03:03:41 PM »

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Wow!!!!  What has happened to this board?  Ban Aruba?  Stepdaddy?  Ok this is getting nuts.  Kerin, what is the story with the Mcvea kid?

He is a grad of MBHS who may/may not have been on the trip and may/may not have been Natalee's ex boyfriend. Again could be a rumor... but our Aruban friends did say he was discussed on the radio there today and that he may be talked to?
Shell...did the guy you sent a message to on the tickle site ever respond?
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« Reply #658 on: June 29, 2005, 03:06:01 PM »

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2 - put yourself in the boys place. You get out of school on Monday afternoon, meet up with buddies and see a TV somewhere or get a call that says "hey - you btter watch the Tele". When you see who is missing - OH MY GOD! Then the converations with your buddies really start. They all knew they were the last ones with her and people had seen them and they also knew that Joren was with her last. They probably questioned him at length about what happened on the beach and he repeatedly said "nothing!". Then they went to poppa VDS and asked what to do.


This probably was not on TV on Monday afternoon.  In fact I don't think there was much action by police even until that night when Beth showed up and got the information herself about who this kid was and where he lived.  From what I gather, a chaperone stayed behind, got the hotel's help in getting police to make a report that wasn't taken seriously and finally some calls made from Alabama got a DEA agent from another island over to assist the chaperone, but nothing was really done until that night when Beth got there and researched and asked questions until she finally came up with this name and where they lived.  At that point Papa was home in bed and awakened by the police honking.  Doubt anything was on TV until the following couple of days.


dragonfly:  agree this was probably not on TV by Monday afternoon (therefore, not widely available that a girl was missing).  And while Beth is recognized as the one to get the spotlight on JVDS, the chaperone may have heard mention of his name/and or physical description from students who saw her last then gave same to police.  If police had any awareness of JVDS possibly being last seen with NH - prior to Beth's arrival - it would only take a phone call from PVDS' friend inside police dept. (Van Straaten?) to give PVDS a heads up on the situation.  The detail about the chaperone's contacting police around noon about a missing person, that by 10:00 that evening had still not been acted upon, has been disturbing; it's potential significance shouldn't be minimized.


 Rolling Eyes unfortunately LE prob thought she'd show up at crackhouse,too.
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« Reply #659 on: June 29, 2005, 03:06:39 PM »

Oh, that is interesting, her friends have all said she didnt have a bf, but looked funny when asked.  They may had broken up that day.  Anyway I havent checked.  I will though.  I hope he hasnt................lol
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