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« Reply #260 on: June 29, 2005, 10:17:04 AM »

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Good mornin' fellow Monkeys.  The Professor made a good point a couple of pages ago about it being rude/inconsiderate to call after 10:00 pm there.  If that's the case that further corraborates, to me, the fact that Joran wasn't texting/calling Deepak to tell him he got home ok.  That's just BS.

I got you a large latte' Kerin.


I don't know about others but late at night I tend to lower the ringer, the premise that Joran would text msg, could be a: He is considerate of calling late at night and knows Deepak is probably on line alot....b: Deepak cell is turned off c:, Text msg is probably very popular with teens world wide..
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« Reply #261 on: June 29, 2005, 10:17:20 AM »

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I doubt Natalee was sold as a sex slave.  If Joran weren't the last to be seen with her, then maybe.  Also, any worth she might have had would quickly turn to a liability...no one would want to have in their possession a woman whose picture is plastered all over the world.

Joran knows what happened here and he didn't sell her.  IMO


But, think about Amie Bradley abducted in 98, seen at a bar in Aruba in 99 by a soldier.  He went to police.  The award is 250 million.  Seems like a lot of money but evidently not enough to bring her back.  Sex slavery is big business.


need to drop about 3 zeros from that figure, but you are correct, it is a great deal of money.
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« Reply #262 on: June 29, 2005, 10:17:22 AM »

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Good mornin' fellow Monkeys.  The Professor made a good point a couple of pages ago about it being rude/inconsiderate to call after 10:00 pm there.  If that's the case that further corraborates, to me, the fact that Joran wasn't texting/calling Deepak to tell him he got home ok.  That's just BS.

I got you a large latte' Kerin.



dl3fan- I respectfully disagree.  While it is rude for ADULTS to call after 10, there is a whole other side of it with kids.  Cell phone/ texting can be and is done 24/7.


Yes, I agree. And to add to that even Deepak's mom said he was online all night. Which makes sense since he worked a later shift.  I'm sure all his friends knew that...and regularly communicated during those hours.  Just look at the number of pages here on SM overnight?  I fell asleep with my laptop turned on last night, within a  couple hours there were over 20 pages!!!!
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« Reply #263 on: June 29, 2005, 10:17:24 AM »

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Uhhh Nikki....do you really want to use that avatar??  Laughing  Laughing
I would take it and use the program posted above to resize. Or PM me your e-mail address and I will do it for you and send.



what?? you dont like my monkey???? Shocked

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« Reply #264 on: June 29, 2005, 10:17:24 AM »

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I didn't see the interview sorry, but I think anyone who was unjustly arrested is terrible. It happened to my own husband because of the color of his skin.My husband and I were assaulted coming out of a restaraunt by a white man and a woman,  I was 3 months pregnant at the time, the guy had a lengthy record for drugs and assaults but his girlfriend said my husband pushed her and thats why her boyfriend put my husband in the hospital, my husband was arrested after being realeased from the hospital.
The police believe it or not will think the worst of the black man, however with a good attorney and lots of money, we won.
However if we didn't have money and no record it wouldn't have turned out the same.
 I do not have much confidence in the police force here or there.
 But the police did have reasons to pick up the men, they were seen in the area ( security videos,) and one was at the concert the same night as Natalee and they were known to harass tourists, so they had just as much evidence as they did On PVDS.
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« Reply #265 on: June 29, 2005, 10:18:29 AM »

According to a somewhat sleezy Dutch blog site (http://vkmag.com/index.php/weblog/comments/3678), rumour on Aruba is that..:

- Natalee's dad is involved with the war on drugs ('he rolls up drug cartels for a living, he works from the US and Colombia')
- There's an anonymous witness (who doesn't want to go to the authorities because he is a drugs dealer himself), who says he saw Natalee in the night of her disappearance on the beach near the HI hotel in the company of an American guy and a bald Aruban.

It's all rumour and hearsay, but on the off chance that there's any truth to it, I thought I'd post it. It would make for a great Scott Turow thriller, but rather than letting our imaginations run wild, maybe we can try to see how it would fit in with the known facts, like the Holloway's immediate departure to Aruba, the kidnapping suspicion, the quick FBI/DEA involvement and the 'different realm' comments.


Some other observations: In last night's Dutch TV interview with the Vandersloots, mom Vandersloot used wording that suggests that she believes that Natalee disappeared out of her own free will and could turn up again the same way. She repeatedly used the expression 'tevoorschijn komen', i.e. 'to turn up'.

However, police chief Van der Straaten, as per the newspaper interview reproduced here before, has very little hope of Natalee turning up alive. Based on what he knows from leading the investigation, he believes that she is dead.
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« Reply #266 on: June 29, 2005, 10:19:56 AM »

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I am thinking Mickey may need to go into the Witness Protection Program quickly.


I was thinking something along the linesof that last night too after watching his interview. he semes like such a nice..down to earth man. I would hate to see anything happen to him because of what he said!
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« Reply #267 on: June 29, 2005, 10:21:31 AM »

Good morning monkeys  Smile  Has arubagirl been in this am?
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« Reply #268 on: June 29, 2005, 10:22:04 AM »

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But, think about Amie Bradley abducted in 98, seen at a bar in Aruba in 99 by a soldier.  He went to police.  The award is 250 million.  Seems like a lot of money but evidently not enough to bring her back.  Sex slavery is big business.


Not true.
A soldier reported seeing her in a brothel in '99.
He didn't report it for months or years, because he was not supposed to be there.
After he left the service, he told the story.
By the time it was investigated, the brothel had burned to the ground.


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« Reply #269 on: June 29, 2005, 10:22:23 AM »

did anyone else catch the interview with Satish's lawyer last night speaking with Greta?
The interesting thing that I got out of that interview was that according to the attorney for Satish....
Joran is pointing the finger at Satish saying that he was the one who gave him a ride home that night.

ummm so ok.. Joran calls Deepak for a ride at approx 2:30... (according to this new info) Satish picks him up.
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« Reply #270 on: June 29, 2005, 10:22:23 AM »

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"This assumes you're buying the story about the three boys dropping Natalee and Joran off at the Marriot (or there about) beach. Has anyone established this is in fact what happened or are we just going along with it because it was the last story to come out in the MSM?


Actually if one buys this story then one has to buy the story of Mickey John in order to reach this conclusion as well? It is a slippery slope."

There isn't anything else to go on - Deepak told this version to Mickey, Father corroborates it is what was told to him, and isn't Satish telling the same thing?


Therein lies the parts of the story, which we do not know.  If we can't go on the word of any of the four major suspects (minus the SC <s>idiot</s>), we have to assume there are other bits of information that we (Monkeys) don't have.  Unless they are holding the current three just because their stories don't match...I hope that's not the case.  I really hope they (Aruban LE) have more.
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« Reply #271 on: June 29, 2005, 10:22:38 AM »

Poo...isn't that avatar a bit much??????
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« Reply #272 on: June 29, 2005, 10:22:39 AM »

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"This assumes you're buying the story about the three boys dropping Natalee and Joran off at the Marriot (or there about) beach. Has anyone established this is in fact what happened or are we just going along with it because it was the last story to come out in the MSM?


Actually if one buys this story then one has to buy the story of Mickey John in order to reach this conclusion as well? It is a slippery slope."

There isn't anything else to go on - Deepak told this version to Mickey, Father corroborates it is what was told to him, and isn't Satish telling the same thing?


This story has more twist than a Texas rattle snake...err..ok.. Someone posted it previously..that the possibility of a late night dropoff and that Nat may have been kidnapped within 500 yards of the boardwalk?  What hotels are there from Marriott to Holiday Inn, if we decide to take that scenario for example, it seem that it would make a lot of things fall in place.    I do have to check or maybe some one can assist?  Where did the story of Deepak came out washing his car at 2am, and which days? Sounds like a red herring...another one is the Hysterical screaming of a woman, 2 guards or security escorting her away?  Any source this was taken orinally from?
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« Reply #273 on: June 29, 2005, 10:22:39 AM »

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But, think about Amie Bradley abducted in 98, seen at a bar in Aruba in 99 by a soldier.  He went to police.  The award is 250 million.  Seems like a lot of money but evidently not enough to bring her back.  Sex slavery is big business.


Your rendition is not correct.  She was seen in Curaco.  Here is the website.

http://www.ctsi.net/amy/story.html
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« Reply #274 on: June 29, 2005, 10:22:49 AM »

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Good morning monkeys  Smile  Has arubagirl been in this am?


no, sorry!  she hasn't gotten here yet.
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« Reply #275 on: June 29, 2005, 10:23:56 AM »

whew..been stuck in avatar hell..lol..thanks kerin and nancy..hope i can get my monkey up...lol

OK, so i have one question, and please forgive me ifthis has already been hashed and rehashed, but, Mr PINK...his websites that we saw yesterday afternoon...there was a mr pink contributing to the forum last night....tell me..same one?  Shocked
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« Reply #276 on: June 29, 2005, 10:25:10 AM »

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whew..been stuck in avatar hell..lol..thanks kerin and nancy..hope i can get my monkey up...lol

OK, so i have one question, and please forgive me ifthis has already been hashed and rehashed, but, Mr PINK...his websites that we saw yesterday afternoon...there was a mr pink contributing to the forum last night....tell me..same one?  Shocked


What does the Mr. Pink have to do with Natalee.  Please forgive the ignorance, but I don't see how it figures in here.
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« Reply #277 on: June 29, 2005, 10:26:35 AM »

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Good morning monkeys  Smile  Has arubagirl been in this am?


no, sorry!  she hasn't gotten here yet.


Thank you GreatOwl
maybe something good will happen for Natalee's parents today.
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« Reply #278 on: June 29, 2005, 10:26:56 AM »

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I didn't see the interview sorry, but I think anyone who was unjustly arrested is terrible. It happened to my own husband because of the color of his skin.My husband and I were assaulted coming out of a restaraunt by a white man and a woman,  I was 3 months pregnant at the time, the guy had a lengthy record for drugs and assaults but his girlfriend said my husband pushed her and thats why her boyfriend put my husband in the hospital, my husband was arrested after being realeased from the hospital.
The police believe it or not will think the worst of the black man, however with a good attorney and lots of money, we won.
However if we didn't have money and no record it wouldn't have turned out the same.
 I do not have much confidence in the police force here or there.
 But the police did have reasons to pick up the men, they were seen in the area ( security videos,) and one was at the concert the same night as Natalee and they were known to harass tourists, so they had just as much evidence as they did On PVDS.


I sympathize with your experience. But where are the Arubans who were so defensive about the "tone" that the so-called "Alabama posse" used with Paul van der Sloot, on that first night? Why aren't they outraged when a SWAT team is sent in to do a "pre-dawn raid" (probably after 10pm) at the home of Mickey John, and when they haul him out in his underwear? Just asking?
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« Reply #279 on: June 29, 2005, 10:27:23 AM »

well, i am not sure either..i think it had something to do with maybe a porn thing..maybe someone took her for a porn industtry..then you know how things manifest themselves..somehow mr pink's website came into play...lol..i just wanted to know if it was the same guy who was posting... Confused
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