RBN#35 06/29/05 Wed-Thursday Overnight.

[iquitos]

Anyone remeber, I believe on Dan's site, that the DEA there was able to get Natalie's phone to work on the island, and many of her friends thought it was her calling them. It does make sense that CC is a DEA agent, it does sorta seem to fit together.

i think you are confusing chaperone and dea.  beleive me, i know dea and those chaperones were no dea.

[writergal]

A creepy thought has been running through my mind the past few days: suppose Joran and the brothers are actually in protective custody rather than detention for suspicion of a crime? The authorities could have taken them in to give the appearance of pursuing an investigation,and are waiting (hoping) that the press will lose interest and go home if there's no solution to the case. And that the Holloway/Twittys will just give up ultimately when no answers are forthcoming.
   I've mentioned this before, but I bring it up again because so many people on this board have commented on the fact that Joran looked so cocky and self-aasured in his most recent appearance. Maybe he has a reason to look happy.

*ding, ding, ding*

Question though:  if that's a possibility, why would BHT be so adamant about JVS/PVS knowing something?

    Oh, I think they do know something, and Ms. Twitty is quite well aware of that. (Imagine her level of frustration.) But I don't think that has anything to do with the "fix being in," as so many people have suggested: that nothing bad is going to happen to Joran because the crime's been thoroughly covered up.
   My point was that he and the brothers may be in jail (temporarily) to placate the Holloway/Twittys and the press and lull them into believing something is being done.
    This is just a thought, and it may well be off-base. But..such things have happened.

[mordred]

With cellphone Charlie, I'm going with:
kidnapped...But Joran wasn't counting on the "mark"

The 'mysterious phone call' could not have come from Joran or his buddies! If it had, they would have figured out their identities from their ownership record. But as has been reported many times- Beth figured out Joran's identity by checking the signatures of the people who had been playing in the casino's Texas Hold 'Em poker tournament. Please feel free to shoot holes thru my theory!

[~TAZ_MAN~]

But FBI has been watching the interrogations. I don't know that they'd sit quietly by while these guys weren't being interrogated.

fbi was only allowed to observe they were not allowed to conduct.

[WonderWoman]

A creepy thought has been running through my mind the past few days: suppose Joran and the brothers are actually in protective custody rather than detention for suspicion of a crime? The authorities could have taken them in to give the appearance of pursuing an investigation,and are waiting (hoping) that the press will lose interest and go home if there's no solution to the case. And that the Holloway/Twittys will just give up ultimately when no answers are forthcoming.
   I've mentioned this before, but I bring it up again because so many people on this board have commented on the fact that Joran looked so cocky and self-aasured in his most recent appearance. Maybe he has a reason to look happy.

*ding, ding, ding*

Question though:  if that's a possibility, why would BHT be so adamant about JVS/PVS knowing something?

it's all a show.....she will tell media if they do not make more arrests? correct?

[writenow]

Question though:  if that's a possibility, why would BHT be so adamant about JVS/PVS knowing something?

Kidnapping. They don't know where she's being held and he won't give up the information.

[iquitos]

Hotel calls from Aruba would be very pricey but ...

the chaperones used Natalee's cell phone to call BTH et al in Alabama which we know because the family mistakenly thought that Natalee had turned up ok when they got a call from her cell phone (before they left for Aruba) - I find the idea that she did not call home interesting - when my daughter who is 19 or I travel, we always touch base once a day and it seem odd to me that Natalee did not speak to Beth even once during the whole trip

btw, was Jug with Beth in Arkansas or was he at home? just curious

and Greta said Charles Croes ran a cell phone company - doesn't mean he's not DEA but I thought Arubagirl said that her mother knew who he was and that he's had a series of businesses on the island so I thought he was local

 

my daughter is in a very remote and unconnected part of africa now and manages to call and email despite a busy work schedule.  natalee had a
 cellphone.  why did she not use it if it wokrd to call the states?

How do we know she didn't?

 because beth said so per a previous poster of very high credibility.

[Y'alls Psychic Detective]

Frank is blowing smoke you guys and laughing as you run to timbuktoo and back trying to figure it out.

See watch I can do it too

Charles Croes was a ex drug lord in columbia now working as a narc.  Not true but you get it.

Really??  Cool!!  Greta is really a CIA operative working for FOX to investigate Bill O'Reilly's phone calling habits.

[Ting]

A creepy thought has been running through my mind the past few days: suppose Joran and the brothers are actually in protective custody.

For all we know they are in protective custody due to the presence on the island of US nationals who might do them harm.

[Anna]

aruba girl said they guy croes (charles) is a businessman who changes businesses much more often than joran changes shirts.  where did we get dea?

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I thought Joren always wore the blue plaid one.  He very seldom changes shirts, oddly so.

[RB]

Kidnapping. They don't know where she's being held and he won't give up the information

Or he doesn't know and he's stalling, perhaps?

[absolut]

How do we know she didn't?

Beth on the radio today. Said she never talk to Nat, yet I know that conflicts with some other interviews she has done.

[Y'alls Psychic Detective]

Anyone remeber, I believe on Dan's site, that the DEA there was able to get Natalie's phone to work on the island, and many of her friends thought it was her calling them. It does make sense that CC is a DEA agent, it does sorta seem to fit together.

I thought the phone worked to call the US but not on the island?  I've never heard the DEA guy helped get the phone to work.  They might be good, but putting up instant cell towers I doubt is in their bag of tricks.

I could be mistaken (it did happen once!), but I believe Dash thought Natalee's uncle re-programmed the phone to allow it to call the US.  Edited Sarcasm-Absolut

[golden]

I am totally confused now!! On top of that, I'm tired.  I hope that somewhere amidst all of this intrique is a live Natalee.  Goodnight Monkeys.

[TTownMike]

Btw am I the only one who thinks that the story joran gave and the email from deepak match a little to closely.  It is almost as if one was a copy of the other.

DT-

Deepak states in his e-mail that the description of the casino incident with Nat came from his friend and that he was not there, so yes, they would be similar wouldn't they?  

Funny, Deepak states that was his conversation with Joran THAT night, THAT night that Natalee approached Joran is what Deepak is telling his friend. So before any of this was a story, that was what Joran told Deepak to get him to go to CnC's, to meet the girls'.....

Or wuz it whut Sonny Boy told Deeeeepak as soon as he could after doing what he did to her?  I f guilty, ya start buildin your story from the git go!

[writergal]

A creepy thought has been running through my mind the past few days: suppose Joran and the brothers are actually in protective custody rather than detention for suspicion of a crime? The authorities could have taken them in to give the appearance of pursuing an investigation,and are waiting (hoping) that the press will lose interest and go home if there's no solution to the case. And that the Holloway/Twittys will just give up ultimately when no answers are forthcoming.
   I've mentioned this before, but I bring it up again because so many people on this board have commented on the fact that Joran looked so cocky and self-aasured in his most recent appearance. Maybe he has a reason to look happy.

But FBI has been watching the interrogations. I don't know that they'd sit quietly by while these guys weren't being interrogated.

   Excellent point. As I said, it was just a thought. This case is so bizarre that one finds oneself searching for an explanation that might make it comprehensible.
   I do recall one of the FBI guys saying they were a little hamstrung by the fact that they weren't allowed to do anything but observe. They may have seen things they can't comment on that could well have hopelessly buggered up the case.

[pinemeadows]

I am totally confused now!! On top of that, I'm tired.  I hope that somewhere amidst all of this intrique is a live Natalee.  Goodnight Monkeys.

Nite Golden

[Elaine]

Anna said :  Juries are often instructed that if a witness is caught in one lie, they may disregard the entire testimony. I don't think liars ever tell just one..........                                                                                                 [/i]  I totally agree with that statement.! And the three being held have all lied. What diff. does it make if it was one lie or ten.....A LIE IS A LIE...where I come from !

[kuaitzu]

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How do we know she didn't?[/quote]
Beth (herself)said in the radio interview that Natalee never called home while in Aruba

[WonderWoman]

WW, It's pretty bad when the mod has to mod herself...see below

The e-mail, I am sure it will come out one of these days....

everyone is so stuck on "GUILTY" and the ONE lie(understandable, DT) that you all cloud your vision of other things stated in

I'm not stuck on guilty, however if the "proof" is just the email, I'd like further confirmation before I make up my mind.

RB, I was responding to you, not DT?  

EDITED: RB, IF YOU CAN'T FOLLOW THE THREAD DON'T HIT SUBMIT, YOU DUMMY!  WITH LOVE, RB.